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Title: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on April 14, 2008, 05:23:41 PM
Finally I'm getting a bit enthusiastic about a PC based OS. Ok. ubuntu doesn't start really fast, but with XFCE, it's so deliciously fast in using.. and configurable and so...
This system is capable of keeping up with my brain-farts... :-D
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: amigadave on April 14, 2008, 05:34:59 PM
I switched my wife's laptop to Ubuntu a few weeks ago and she is complaining that she doesn't have the required plug-ins for Firefox to play sounds and music and also it won't play You-Tube videos.  Do you know the easiest way to install all the latest stuff for Ubuntu so she won't complain any more?

I ran the update last night and it said it was installing 206 updates, but I don't know if it included anything for Firefox.  I'll check it later as I have to leave the house right now.
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on April 14, 2008, 05:38:07 PM
Normally it includes stuff for firefox, yes
You could install the flash plugin via 'synaptic package manager' (under system) the unfree one is the only one which works with for me.

Anyway, Linux still isn't really user friendly, not if you want that tiny bit more..
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: hardlink on April 14, 2008, 06:04:07 PM
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Finally I'm getting a bit enthusiastic about a PC based OS.


What about AROS?  :-D
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: Fester on April 14, 2008, 06:19:45 PM
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amigadave wrote:
Do you know the easiest way to install all the latest stuff for Ubuntu so she won't complain any more?


Perhaps this link might help a little:  Installing Software on Ubuntu (http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installingsoftware)
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: Fester on April 14, 2008, 06:22:52 PM
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Finally I'm getting a bit enthusiastic about a PC based OS. Ok. ubuntu doesn't start really fast, but with XFCE, it's so deliciously fast in using.. and configurable and so...
This system is capable of keeping up with my brain-farts... :-D


Thanks for sharing. I was curious after your post. I went and installed it. I'm now writing this from an xfce session on a mini-itx machine. It seems a bit faster than Gnome. I'm still getting used to Linux. I don't use it very much except for an old laptop I use for blogging and this mini-itx box I setup over the weekend.
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on April 14, 2008, 06:25:51 PM
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hardlink wrote:
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Finally I'm getting a bit enthusiastic about a PC based OS.


What about AROS?  :-D
Waaaay too little functionality for everyday use. Yes, I haven't touched Windows for weeks now. Would be different if I'd've switched to AROS. With that, only the most recent Ubuntu distro supports my hardware (a mediocre 2yo Dell laptop).. I doubt AROS is up to that point. Not that I want to ditch AROS, au contraire, but for every day use I don't think it's useable for me. BeOS was neither back already 7 years ago (though I absolutely LOVED that OS).
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on April 14, 2008, 06:31:07 PM
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Fester wrote:
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Finally I'm getting a bit enthusiastic about a PC based OS. Ok. ubuntu doesn't start really fast, but with XFCE, it's so deliciously fast in using.. and configurable and so...
This system is capable of keeping up with my brain-farts... :-D


Thanks for sharing. I was curious after your post. I went and installed it. I'm now writing this from an xfce session on a mini-itx machine. It seems a bit faster than Gnome. I'm still getting used to Linux. I don't use it very much except for an old laptop I use for blogging and this mini-itx box I setup over the weekend.
A 'bit'?? It runs 10 times around Gnome. I've got one directory with about 20000 files in it, and when I open that directory, with Gnome it just locks up. With XFCE the screen is nicely and steadily being populated.
But maybe it depends on my graphics card... Gnome uses alot of graphical features. And my Intel chipset isn't that well supported..
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: Colani1200 on April 14, 2008, 06:46:37 PM
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

Anyway, Linux still isn't really user friendly, not if you want that tiny bit more..

It's a question of what you are used to. Pesonally, I think Ubuntu is amongst the easiest OS around. Far easier than Windows. About that flash player: The only thing I had to do on my lady's Ubuntu notebook was to click "install missing plugin" on the first flash website I opened. It can't get much easier than this.
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: motorollin on April 14, 2008, 06:55:51 PM
@speel
Did you install XFCE on top of an existing Ubuntu installation, or did you use Xubuntu (http://www.xubuntu.org/)? If the latter, can you see any difference apart from the window manager?

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moto
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on April 14, 2008, 06:58:10 PM
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Colani1200 wrote:
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:

Anyway, Linux still isn't really user friendly, not if you want that tiny bit more..

It's a question of what you are used to. Pesonally, I think Ubuntu is amongst the easiest OS around. Far easier than Windows. About that flash player: The only thing I had to do on my lady's Ubuntu notebook was to click "install missing plugin" on the first flash website I opened. It can't get much easier than this.
Indeed the majority of installations are a piece of cake. It's just when your program has no gui, and things need to be altered. For instance, I've just had a hard time finding a configuration file for SDLMAME. Configuring MAME is far from easy for a beginner, while it IS needed to get it running with proper joystick support (with being able to customize buttons and so).
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on April 14, 2008, 07:02:30 PM
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motorollin wrote:
@speel
Did you install XFCE on top of an existing Ubuntu installation, or did you use Xubuntu (http://www.xubuntu.org/)? If the latter, can you see any difference apart from the window manager?

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moto
I installed XFCE aside the standard GNOME Ubuntu installation. It's not on top, it's kinda dual boot. You can choose between them at the login screen. (I set it standard to XFCE, but I can change that the next time I log in).
And yes it's a hell of a lot faster than GNOME. That's the only thing that differs. But to me it makes it a lot more useable. (and, ah well, I screwed up the menu a bit, but I prefer to configure it by hand anyway)
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: persia on April 14, 2008, 07:05:21 PM
XFCE is one nice windows manager.  I'm using it with PCLinux.

:hammer:
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: motorollin on April 14, 2008, 07:06:31 PM
Think I'll try it on my Parallels installation of Ubuntu :-) I always liked XFCE. I remember using it under my Slackware installation on an old Compaq laptop which didn't have a CD-ROM. The great thing about Slackware was that it was modular, so you downloaded the floppy images for the components you wanted. Ahhh memories... ;-)

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moto
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: Fester on April 14, 2008, 10:01:23 PM
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
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A 'bit'?? It runs 10 times around Gnome.


:-) Yes a 'bit'. I didn't hear any swooshing sounds. My hair wasn't swept back in the wind and flashing light.

I did notice that it was faster. A bit. :-)

It's probably because I don't use Linux enough to feel the difference...Could be my hardware? Don't know...

Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on April 14, 2008, 10:15:00 PM
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Fester wrote:
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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
A 'bit'?? It runs 10 times around Gnome.




:-) Yes a 'bit'. I didn't hear any swooshing sounds. My hair wasn't swept back in the wind and flashing light.

I did notice that it was faster. A bit. :-)

It's probably because I don't use Linux enough to feel the difference...Could be my hardware? Don't know...

Hm, here it sounds like that Star Wars TIE Fighter sound :-D
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on April 14, 2008, 10:32:15 PM
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motorollin wrote:
Think I'll try it on my Parallels installation of Ubuntu :-) I always liked XFCE. I remember using it under my Slackware installation on an old Compaq laptop which didn't have a CD-ROM. The great thing about Slackware was that it was modular, so you downloaded the floppy images for the components you wanted. Ahhh memories... ;-)

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moto
I've always been a lazy fart, I tried the first 'user friendly' Linux distro, yes, from Corel. :lol:
Wasn't impressed by it though. (but I was most definately impressed by BeOS :-) )
Title: Re: XFCE with Ubuntu, niiiice
Post by: whabang on April 14, 2008, 10:37:50 PM
For those not interested in all the bloat that Ubuntu insists on being bundled with (I only need one text editor, thank you! ;-)), I can recomend the LiveCD version of Mandriva One 2008.

The LiveCD (not LiveDVD, which is as full of unneccesary stuff as Ubuntu is), only contains an office package, a web browser, and some other tools and utilities.

Now, if only CCP could make a decent Linux version of EVE, so that I don't have to use WINE...