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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: AxE on August 09, 2003, 04:07:24 PM
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As CU Amiga had the full version on their coverdisk but forgot to print the serial number.
How legal would it be to post one here or upload one to aminet?
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Sounds like a call for Maxon to make, but if someone really shot the food like this, and didn't want to release the info to all and sundry for whatever reason, it seems they could use the magazine as a dongle - disgruntled purchasers could mail their support, support could mail back a request for the Nth word off page X, and upon receipt, send out whatever the appropriate serial was meant to be.
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I have said magazine and said Disc, so WHERE do I obtain the serial that was leagally promised,but never given to me,from ?
Yours in anticipation Browny :-D
Nice idea about using the mag as a dongle,what cable will i need, serial or parallel ?.
Nah ! seriously though dont make me go up in the loft, i would never find it amongst the dead pigieons and grandma !!.
:-D :-o
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IIRC, the serial number was printed in the subsequent edition of Amiga Format.
It was also available on the CU Amiga website for a while, but was later removed. My guess is that since Maxon are still around - although no longer supporting the Amiga, and certainly not the free CU Amiga copy - it would be their call to make.
I remember that when I asked them for that very same serial number a while back they simply replied saying that Amiga support was no longer available. Since it is a free copy, I guess they can't be blamed.
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Thanks, bhoggett,that now means I will have to go up the loft, and check to see if i have the subsequent AF !.
If i aint back in 10 mins, call me mom. :-D
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I can't remember getting the serial number in a later copy of AF. I remember them mentioning C4D and CU a month or two after CU went byebye, but I can't remember seeing that number.
Guess I'll have to go raking through all my packed boxes to find it. If you hear a thump don't worry, it's just the boxes collapsing on me ;-)
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In the subsequent issue of CUAmiga, they published a 'phone number for anyone to get the required serial numbers. I say numbers because there was also one required for the Magic Link software which accompanied the C4D programme.
The serial numbers were quoted quite freely, without them (Maxon, or their agent) requiring any proof of purchase of CUA, etc. While this service lasted, literally anybody could call and get the codes. I had the impression they (Maxon, or their agent) were simply fed up with the endless calls and would be glad to see the back of it.
In any event, CUA's C4D installer was flawed and many people couldn't get the programme to run, even if they had the codes. Shortly thereafter, however, CUA was history and all subsequent discussion took place through Amiga Format.
Whether AF actually discussed the codes I can't recall. I know some people regarded any subsequent publication of the numbers to be wrong, tho' I personally don't see a valid argument in that. Maxon (or their agent) were only too pleased to get CUA readers (and anyone else for that matter) off their back by releasing the numbers willy-nilly.
Anyway, AF did publish a solution via a CoverDisk. Presumably AF were fully aware of the CUA/C4D situation and duly decided there was no harm to Maxon (or their agent) in assisting CUA purchasers in getting it working. So, if you root around in AFCD35, all your questions are answered.
Cheers,
JaX
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@JaX
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't the C4D issue of CU Amiga the last one ever?
This is what caused the confusion, as normally this kind of situation would be solved by publishing the missing information in the next issue. In the case of CU Amiga, there was no next issue, unless my memory is playing tricks on me.
Yes, you're right about the C4D installer on the CD. It did not work properly and a separate one was made available later on the CU Amiga website (which survived for a while after the mag died)
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@bhoggett
Yes, on checking it out, you are correct. The C4D disk was the last one. I can only assume that AF actually published the 'phone number for people to call. (Or was there a third magazine published at that time..??)
In any event, I certainly called Maxon (or their agent) and was given the codes, without any question regarding the purchase of the CUA magazine.
I have assumed it was through AF that all subsequent discussion took place, tho' I could be wrong.
Cheers,
JaX
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browny wrote:
Thanks, bhoggett,that now means I will have to go up the loft, and check to see if i have the subsequent AF !.
If i aint back in 10 mins, call me mom. :-D
mom :-o :-o :-o :-o :-o
Any you claim to be from the UK!!!! :-(
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I never got round to checking out my AF magazines today, and I won't bother now that JaXanim has mentioned the details are on AFCD35.
I haven't packed my CD's yet, so they're a *lot* easier to get to :-D
Cheers for that Jax :-)
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The situation as I remeber it was:
CU provided the software then closed. AF agreed to give serial numbers to users who contacted them. AF stopped doing this before they closed, qoute "Stop requesting C4D serials, it's been a year now".
I believe Nick Veitch and Rich Drummond still work on Linux Format, perhaps you could contact them for advice (but not serials).
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You know what's even more sad is;
I *bought* C4D , I have my OWN serial numbers etc.. manuals
all that, but my CDROM was stolen.....grr
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Its a JOKE bloodline !,
Anyway thats rich,with you crawling about on all fours delivering a letter,and all that. :-D
I did not need me mom because i did not go up the loft. ;-)
the wife will av to go up if i decide to go after it , but after reading the rest of this thread, it seems like a
BUM STEER.
OooOOOOOOOOoOOOOOOHHHHH
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@pha_q
I believe you are right.
Certainly Maxon themselves do not give out the serial any more ( I tried).
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@browny,
Didn't you buy Amiga Format then?
Cheers,
JaX
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As I recall it, HiSoft were giving out the serial numbers for quite a while after the magazine was published. Can't blame them for not doing this for all eternity, besides the CU Amiga website can be found on the Wayback Machine, with a little effort you should be able to find what you need.
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Yeah ! JaXanim,
I just realised my mistake I mean CU,not AF, Oops !.
Tell you what guys did we spend some money on mags or what !.
When you look at the price on the covers its amazing how many flew off the shelves.
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I really wish someone would post the #s,I bought the
Magazine and cd,and paid a premium price for it here
in Canada. I didn't have internet at the time so was cut out of getting them from hisoft or whoever and I have searched the net high and low to no avail.this issue of the serials has irked me for years and I would really like to try C4d. Whoever holds the rights should do the decent thing and make the numbers availible to the people who paid good money for the mag and disc. I know this is an
old issue but like I said I didn't have access to the net at the time .also can someone please confirm if it was on afcd 35 because I would even be willing to hunt that down just to get C4d going. Thanx T.
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After searching through a few AFCDs I've discovered that it's not on 35, it's on 34. If you go into file://localhost/F:/-Websites-/-Amiga_Format-/frames.html you'll see the HiSoft homepage. This contains a little bit of (un)helpful text:
CU CU'S THE CU C4D CD
Readers of the last ever CU Amiga magazine (Oct 98) will already know of the special CINEMA 4D deal we are offering them. They will also be aware that they need serial numbers, which were not supplied in the magazine.
To learn how to get serial numbers, and also how to correct the broken installation script (sigh), please click on the link below which will take you to the relevant page on the CU Amiga website.
The link is:
http://www.cu-amiga.co.uk/cucd/index.html
This doesn't exist anymore. So, it looks like we're stuck. :-(
Unless someone wants to dig out their Christmas 1998 AF issue ;-)
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Following on from http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cu-amiga.co.uk/cucd/index.html reveals a replacement installer script (which is on www.archive.org), but unfortunately no serial number. They just say to email c4d-cu-offer@hisoft.co.uk .
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Vincent wrote:
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The link is:
http://www.cu-amiga.co.uk/cucd/index.html
This doesn't exist anymore. So, it looks like we're stuck. :-(
Unless someone wants to dig out their Christmas 1998 AF issue ;-)
So much for subtle hints... click (http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.cu-amiga.co.uk/)
All you need is there.
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@mdwh2
look a little closer
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I can't see the serial number on that at all. There's the replacement installer, but that's all I can see.
I was trawling through afb's bulletin board (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/afb/) but there's nothing on there. I was surprised to see it was still going, although the only names that I recognised from the recent posters are Neil Bothwick, jaxanim and Quixote.
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The CU List archives (another source) are also online (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cu-list/).
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doesn't help though.we want the serials.and they are not there. :-?
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They were in Aminet years ago just some hours until swiped off by admin.
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@Vincent,
I can assure you the answer to everyone's problem was published on AFCD35.
Look in -ReaderStuff-
Cheers,
Jax
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@tony23
CU List Archive - search for Message 17464
Cheers,
JaX
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I can assure you the answer to everyone's problem was published on AFCD35.
I still can't see the serial number there, in -ReaderStuff-\Jack_Thewlis I can see the Installer fix, but no serial number. Got the number from the CU site though :-)
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@JaXanim:
Thanks for the help! I have the covercd, too, but until now I couldn't find the serial number. Most probably I'll never use Cinema4D, but at least I feel better now that I can use it :-D
Varthall
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@Vincent
It's integrated within the Installer. You need the CoverDisk and this Installer to complete the task.
As it expains in the ReadMe, have pen and paper at the ready.
Cheers,
JaX
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@Varthall
I couldn't get into C4D at all, even tho I purchased the full kit. Way too many icons for my liking. I was already using LightWave and of course, nothing on the Amiga compares.
In fact I got into LW so much that I wrote a beginner's guide (WaveGuide). Anyone interested in this should pop along to my site:
http://waveguide.v21hosting.co.uk
There's all the lowdown on LightWave and it's capabilities as well as some renders and lots of Downloads (like Waving Flag avatars).
Cheers,
JaXanim
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@JaxAnim
Aha, that explains why I couldn't find it then ;-)
I didn't think about it actually being in the installer itself.
Cheers :-D
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Usually I don't do this... (being helpfull)
http://web.archive.org/web/20000301143009/http://www.cu-amiga.co.uk/cucd/index.html
enjoy.
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@JaXanim
http://waveguide.v21hosting.co.uk
very useful site and thanx for the avatar :-)
Ciao
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ok no more beating about the bush
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cu-list/message/17464 (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cu-list/message/17464)
job done :-)
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@All
All the wrinkles have been smoothed.
All the irritation has been soothed.
I guess this thread should now be closed.
Goodnight everyone, Goodnight.
JaX