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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: nasty on April 11, 2008, 07:15:22 PM

Title: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: nasty on April 11, 2008, 07:15:22 PM
I was just wondering for no reason if you can upgrade and BPPC card from say a 160mhz to a 240mhz without overclocking? I know you can upgrade the 040 to a 060 but how does it work with the ppc processor!
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: bloodline on April 11, 2008, 07:32:23 PM
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nasty wrote:
I was just wondering for no reason if you can upgrade and BPPC card from say a 160mhz to a 240mhz without overclocking? I know you can upgrade the 040 to a 060 but how does it work with the ppc processor!


You might be able to, but good luck desoldering that BGA!!! :-o
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: DoogUK on April 11, 2008, 07:47:27 PM
Would probably work with a flash of the firmware.
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: Framiga on April 11, 2008, 07:54:05 PM
"Would probably work with a flash of the firmware."

erm, nope! we are speaking Amiga here! theres nothing in the BPPC/CSPPC flash, clocking related. All the job is made in hardware (multiplier/new quartz and such)



Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: rkauer on April 11, 2008, 07:57:18 PM
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DoogUK wrote:
Would probably work with a flash of the firmware.


 No way! Only if you dessolder (not that difficult) the original BGA CPU and then solder a new, faster BGA CPU (that is very difficult)!:headwall:
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: DoogUK on April 11, 2008, 08:02:44 PM
I meant WITH changing the cpu!

Not only that..with a pc you can update the flash bios to take faster cpu's that were not supported before...so why flaw the logic?
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: nasty on April 11, 2008, 08:06:25 PM
It's not a job I'd try myself but I was wondering if it could been done! theres alot of talented people with an solder iron on this board! So maybe its another option for people that find there 160/175/200 lack without going to the hassle of overclocking the boards. So would it still be a major pain if you had all the skills involved?
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: adonay on April 11, 2008, 08:22:03 PM
 :lol: I am afraid a normal soldering iron wont do it ..
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: CLS2086 on April 11, 2008, 09:39:44 PM
real specialists that can change 240 pins of flat pack chips can do the job.
On the Grex List someone, got 1 rework with a 300 Mhz CPu on his BPPC.
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: bloodline on April 11, 2008, 09:49:21 PM
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nasty wrote:
It's not a job I'd try myself but I was wondering if it could been done! theres alot of talented people with an solder iron on this board! So maybe its another option for people that find there 160/175/200 lack without going to the hassle of overclocking the boards. So would it still be a major pain if you had all the skills involved?


You would need specialist tools to desolder the BGA CPU from the board... And specialist tools to solder a new one on there... a quick wiki for BGA electronics will explain why!
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: DoogUK on April 11, 2008, 10:19:06 PM
linky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1pxKN4UAXg)

this bloke makes it look extremely easy though. :lol:
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: bloodline on April 11, 2008, 10:43:35 PM
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DoogUK wrote:
linky (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1pxKN4UAXg)

this bloke makes it look extremely easy though. :lol:


Great link, I'd hate to have to do that... imagine trying to solder a new chip in place!?
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: nasty on April 11, 2008, 10:45:10 PM
Thank you guys, I now have abit more insight in whats involved. karma all round  :-D
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: DoogUK on April 11, 2008, 10:51:49 PM
Those guys on youtube make it all look easy, my amigas quiver with fear when i reach for my soldering iron.  :lol:
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: Jeff on April 12, 2008, 01:22:39 AM
There is a thread on the A1k.org forums about someone that had his BPPC upgraded to a 275mhz CPU and it is working so it can be done for a price. I'll see if I can find the posts about it.

-Jeff
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: Fransexy_ on April 12, 2008, 08:42:39 AM
What is the fastest PPC 603 avaliable (in BGA form)?
Title: Re: upgrade BPPC?
Post by: djbase on April 12, 2008, 10:09:03 AM
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Fransexy_ wrote:
What is the fastest PPC 603 avaliable (in BGA form)?


Freescale offers 300 MHz as fastest version.