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Title: Help with WHDLoad and Mediator
Post by: bubba on April 08, 2008, 11:24:52 AM
I cannot get any WHDLoad image that requires a ROM to work on my A1200.  I'm using WHDLoad 16.8 and it is registered.  I'm using the ROMS from Amiga Forever 2006 ISO and have moved and renamed the ROMs in DEVS:Kickstarts.  I did not install Amiga Forever.

My A1200 has the following hardware:

Mediator SX / Voodoo3 and Ethernet
Blizzard IV 030 50mhz + SCSI, 64MB Ram
Subway USB, clockport
OS 3.9, no boing bags

WHDLoad starts fine and displays the splash screen with my registration info.  The screen then goes black and the games never come up.  I can hit the exit key and return to workbench without any problems.   I've tried using the NoCache, NoMMU, and VooDooInit=NO flags with no success.  Games that don't need ROMS work fine.

Thanks for the help!
Bubba




Title: Re: Help with WHDLoad and Mediator
Post by: alexh on April 08, 2008, 11:38:07 AM
Do you have the rom.key installed in the DEV:Kickstart directory?

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supports also the kickstart images supplied with Cloantos Amiga
      Forever CDs, kick130.rom or amiga-os-130.rom must be renamed to
      kick34005.A500, kick310.rom or amiga-os-310.rom renamed to
      kick40068.A4000, images together with the rom.key must be
      installed under DEVS:Kickstarts, some older installs require a
      kick40068.A1200 image these installs wont run with Cloantos roms


The Amiga Forever ROM's are "encrypted" and WHDLoad needs this key.
Title: Re: Help with WHDLoad and Mediator
Post by: Xamiche on April 08, 2008, 11:39:01 AM
If I remember correctly from another thread, the Amiga Forever ROMs have some encryption that stop them from working with WHDLoad, or even writing back to a chip to work in a real Amiga. Someone else here may need to verify that, as I'm not entirely certain.
Title: Re: Help with WHDLoad and Mediator
Post by: alexh on April 08, 2008, 11:41:28 AM
WHDLoad has supported Amiga Forever ROM's (with key) since 16.5
Title: Re: Help with WHDLoad and Mediator
Post by: Xamiche on April 08, 2008, 11:44:33 AM
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alexh wrote:
WHDLoad has supported Amiga Forever ROM's (with key) since 16.5

Ahh cool. Thanks for that alexh.
Title: Re: Help with WHDLoad and Mediator
Post by: mfilos on April 08, 2008, 11:47:08 AM
Don't throw a brick on me for saying this but...

Are you playing the games outputing the VGA signal from Voodoo3 on a VGA monitor only?  :roll:
Title: Re: Help with WHDLoad and Mediator
Post by: Marcb on April 08, 2008, 11:48:05 AM
I don't think it is the roms, Whdload usually throws up a dialog telling you the rom is missing...
Title: Re: Help with WHDLoad and Mediator
Post by: alexh on April 08, 2008, 12:07:34 PM
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mfilos wrote:
Are you playing the games outputing the VGA signal from Voodoo3 on a VGA monitor only?  :roll:

He said that games which don't need ROMS work fine. That says to me he's gotta be using a scan doubler and a monitor switcher or something similar.
Title: Re: Help with WHDLoad and Mediator
Post by: bubba on April 08, 2008, 12:24:27 PM
Yes, I have the rom.key in devs:kickstarts.  I did not install Amiga Forever, I just copied the roms from the iso image.  I assume I don't need to install it.

-bubba

Title: Re: Help with WHDLoad and Mediator
Post by: alexh on April 08, 2008, 12:33:42 PM
Yes you dont install anything. Copy over ROM's + ROM key, rename, get appropriate PAT & RTB files from skick (http://aminet.net/package/util/boot/skick346)

If all that is done, I am stumped.
Title: Re: Help with WHDLoad and Mediator
Post by: alexh on April 08, 2008, 12:44:11 PM
What is the ToolType VooDooInit? I've never come across that one. No mention in the WHDload docs.

What is your video setup like?

How is Amiga Native gfx displayed?

Scandoubler + switcher?
Dual input Monitor?
Two monitors?
Composite to TV input?
LCDTV?

Is there no chance that you are just "looking at the wrong screen"?
Title: Re: Help with WHDLoad and Mediator
Post by: bubba on April 09, 2008, 12:51:40 PM
I have a cypress CM-348S scan converter.  I'm staring Whdload from an AGA screen not from a voodoo screen.  This works fine for games that don't require roms.

I've tried many settings with no luck:  nommu, nocache, etc.  I found the VoodooInt reference via googling, but I think it applies to an older version of whdload.

My next thought is that it's some hardware issue.  I am using a wireless keyboard connected to a Lyra adapter.  I had a probelm with a wireless mouse where one game would freeze.  It worked fine with a regular mouse.  I'm going to try a wired keyboard and see if it improves the situation.
Thanks for the help.

Bubba

Title: Re: Help with WHDLoad and Mediator
Post by: bubba on April 10, 2008, 02:42:18 PM
Update...

I booted with the start-up sequence disabled and whdload works!  Now I've got to figure out what's causing the problem.

-bubba
Title: Re: Help with WHDLoad and Mediator
Post by: doctorq on April 10, 2008, 04:01:17 PM
Eh, the VoodooInt isn't a tooltype for WHDLoad, so it will bring you nothing. VoodooInt is an ENV setting you find in ENVARC:Mediator. It should be set to no for WHDLoad on Mediator systems.