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Title: PPPoE on Amigas?
Post by: AmigaMance on March 25, 2008, 05:10:08 PM
Hi.
 Is PPPoE a problem on Amigas?
I read that only MiamiDX and RoadShow supports this protocol and not Genesis/AmiTCP and MOSNet. Is this correct?

 My ISP supports both PPPoA and PPPoE and i have use the above TCP/IP stacks (except roadShow as i don't own OS4) to connect to the internet with PPPoA successfully.
 I tried to switch to PPPoE by changing my router's settings while running MiamiDX and my router failed to connect to my ISP. I don't know if this problem is related to MiamiDX at all. What do you think?
Title: Re: PPPoE on Amigas?
Post by: djbase on March 25, 2008, 05:13:02 PM
Your router has login to your ISP and your Amiga needs only a simple ethernet connection to the router? Then your tcp/ip stack on amiga doesn't need PPPoE. Its only needed for direct access/login without router.
Title: Re: PPPoE on Amigas?
Post by: adolescent on March 25, 2008, 05:13:50 PM
I have always had the router handle the PPPoE.  

Your modem might need to be power-cycled when changing the device connected to it (ie. from the Amiga to the router).
Title: Re: PPPoE on Amigas?
Post by: AmigaMance on March 25, 2008, 05:32:36 PM
@DJBase
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Your router has login to your ISP and your Amiga needs only a simple ethernet connection to the router?

 No. I said that "I tried to switch to PPPoE by changing my router's settings while running MiamiDX and my router failed to connect to my ISP."
 The PPP LED on the router remains off.

@DJBase and adolescent
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Then your tcp/ip stack on amiga doesn't need PPPoE. Its only needed for direct access/login without router.

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I have always had the router handle the PPPoE.

Your modem might need to be power-cycled when changing the device connected to it (ie. from the Amiga to the router).

 Ok, so if i understand you correctly, the TCP/IP doesn't have to support PPPoE? It's enough when it is supported only by the router?
Title: Re: PPPoE on Amigas?
Post by: VooDoo on March 25, 2008, 05:40:49 PM
Yeah that is correct..If your modem/router have support for PPPoE you dont need this on TCP/IP sw..you need only simple connection to router..
Title: Re: PPPoE on Amigas?
Post by: Framiga on March 25, 2008, 05:48:01 PM
if you want to try PPPoE, probably you have to switch the Multiplexing Method to LLC (in the router settings)

Title: Re: PPPoE on Amigas?
Post by: AmigaMance on March 25, 2008, 06:00:10 PM
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VooDoo wrote:
Yeah that is correct..If your modem/router have support for PPPoE you dont need this on TCP/IP sw..you need only simple connection to router..

 Good to hear this! Thanks.
Title: Re: PPPoE on Amigas?
Post by: AmigaMance on March 25, 2008, 06:04:17 PM
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Framiga wrote:
if you want to try PPPoE, probably you have to switch the Multiplexing Method to LLC (in the router settings)


 Yes, i know. PPPoE needs LLC multiplexing. It still doesn't connect.
 Anyway, since the TCP/IP stack doesn't matter and my router supports PPPoE, it's probably a problem from my ISP.
Title: Re: PPPoE on Amigas?
Post by: ChaosLord on March 25, 2008, 07:22:53 PM
I have never been able to get PPPoE working on my Amiga with a direct connection to my DSL.

AFAIK there is no PPPoE client for Amiga.
Title: Re: PPPoE on Amigas?
Post by: pVC on March 25, 2008, 07:36:18 PM
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ChaosLord wrote:
I have never been able to get PPPoE working on my Amiga with a direct connection to my DSL.

AFAIK there is no PPPoE client for Amiga.


As said, MiamiDX supports PPPoE and I have successfully tried it with direct connection with my Amiga. BUT in any case it's better to use router, which makes PPPoE connection to ISP and then just use static IPs with computers to router. Any TCP/IP stack will work then. I'd prefer AmiTCP/IP based stacks because of the speed.
Title: Re: PPPoE on Amigas?
Post by: Kin-Hell on March 27, 2008, 08:37:49 PM
I agree with pVC.
Just leave the Router deal with your ISP on PPPoE. Hopefully, your Router will be capable of being a DNS Server. All you need to do is configure the Amiga to use the Router as a Defualt Gateway to the Internet. The router will hand out IP addresses & handle DNS, rather than each connected computer having to be configured. It gets very complex on multi-platformed Networks.

Get things right & Install Samba to get access to your Pee Cee files directly from your Amiga & vice-versa.

How to set up Samba (http://samba.amigaworld.net/)

Good luck!  :-)