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Title: Pioneer HDD recorder
Post by: pyrre on March 25, 2008, 02:02:20 PM
I have a Pioneer DVR-433, it has a builtin 80giga HDD.
And i would like to swap that for a larger one.
Do any of you guys know howto, or where i can find that out?
Title: Re: Pioneer HDD recorder
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on March 25, 2008, 03:47:52 PM
Open it and find out.
Shouldn't be much of a problem if you have assembled a pc before. When you find the harddisk, you can search for a serial number/production name, and then you can search via google for the datasheet, in wich is stated what kind of harddisk it is. (but I think you'll be able to find that out yourself at the moment you see the harddisk; I bet it's just a plain IDE harddisk).
-edit- and put the harddisk in a (linux) pc, so you can find out how it's formatted, and copy the system files from it.
Title: Re: Pioneer HDD recorder
Post by: pyrre on March 25, 2008, 07:45:00 PM
It is a solution, however i don't want to risk wiping the disk. I think it is a maxtor disk inside it...
I just need software to format disks in the DVR-433... if such exists...
Title: Re: Pioneer HDD recorder
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on March 25, 2008, 08:35:01 PM
Well, if you can see what kind of format it is, it's only a matter of formatting the larger harddisk in that format and copying the files to the larger harddisk (using the pc)
Title: Re: Pioneer HDD recorder
Post by: motorollin on March 25, 2008, 09:08:22 PM
Or use dd to clone one disk to the other regardless of the format. That's how people upgrade the hard disks in Sky+ boxes.

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moto
Title: Re: Pioneer HDD recorder
Post by: pyrre on March 26, 2008, 05:03:27 PM
And you want me to use linux for this...
I have seen linux a couple of times. but i have never tried it....

To me it sounds a bit difficult...
Title: Re: Pioneer HDD recorder
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on March 26, 2008, 05:22:45 PM
Quote

pyrre wrote:
And you want me to use linux for this...
I have seen linux a couple of times. but i have never tried it....

To me it sounds a bit difficult...
Well, I don't want you to use it, but I just think there might be more certain programs written for it to do the job. Your best bet is to have both Windows and Linux on your pc (but I'm not going to find that all out for you, I am only pointing out that it's a possibility; if you want things done, you must get your hands dirty).

Btw.Linux distributions like Suse and Ubuntu are as easy to install and use, if not easier, than Windows... Even considering these more 'difficult' tasks...
Title: Re: Pioneer HDD recorder
Post by: motorollin on March 26, 2008, 08:40:25 PM
Just had a thought about using dd... won't be much good for your purposes. Yes it will clone the whole disk from the old to the new, but it will keep the partition the same size as the original. Speel is right - you would need to know what format the disk is in so you can manually reproduce the partition layout (assuming it's in a non-proprietary format).

Have you considered the possibility that the device will format the disk for you? Some Sky+ boxes do this. You just put the new disk in and the box detects that the disk doesn't contain the right data and formats it for you. There's no risk in trying it.

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moto
Title: Re: Pioneer HDD recorder
Post by: pyrre on March 28, 2008, 03:53:02 AM
I read in a forum stating it to be a linux based filesystem.
However i can't find back that link... :-(
Title: Re: Pioneer HDD recorder
Post by: Wain on March 28, 2008, 05:47:11 AM
some reading online about this suggests that you must use a a specific Pioneer service DVD and a service remote control.
Title: Re: Pioneer HDD recorder
Post by: motorollin on March 28, 2008, 08:57:03 AM
Ok, have a look here:

http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download

Download the Desktop Edition and burn it to CD. It will boot you in to a nice friendly Linux system. If you connect the hard disk from your Pioneer to your PC then boot from the Ubuntu live CD, then you can use the partition editor it comes with to view the partitions on the disk. If it is in a recognised format, it will tell you what format the partition is. If you can check that and report back we can help you with the next step.

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moto