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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: woz on August 06, 2003, 02:07:58 PM
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Anyone know what's the fastest, the Blizzard PPC 240mhz or the Cyberstorm PPC 233mhz. Is there much of a speed diference between them. I know that the Cyberstorm has a 64 bit memory bus as opposed to the Blizzards 32 bit bus, but that's about it, anyone know what's the difference in speeds with these two cards.
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The Bliz has a 603 and the CS has a 604e. Supposeldy the bliz isn't close.
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The CPPC, easily. Not only is the 604 faster than the 603, the doubled memory bandwidth makes a big difference too. The CPPC is about 5-15% faster than the BPPC at the same clockspeed on average.
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way big difference dood!! ...waaaaaaay!
603e's are slow....but biggest prob is memspeed + that a1200 is a hack and bppc even a bigger hack :)
anyway if u have a 060 on yer bppc , like i do...well its ok enough.... though thats because of wos/pup on amigaos....
os4.0 will be diffrent.
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I used to have a cyberstorm PPC, and now I've got a blizzard PPC, which has been sent away for repaire, am curious. There's not that much of a difference between the 603e & the 604e (at same clock speeds) when used in AppleMacs, but as blizz v cyberstorm, with 060 comp CPU you'd think they were similar.
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The CSPPC is way faster then the BPPC, i have a CSPPC with
060&604e@233 and a BPPC 040&603e 240.
The 604e 233 is about 2.3 times faster then the 603e 240.
604e does 380 mips and the 603e 180 if i remember correctly. And
indeed the CSPPC has a 64 bit data bus (that's why you always have to
put a minimum of 2 simm's on it) and the BPPC has not.
so the CSPPC is much faster then the BPPC :D
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I'm just curious...
But, where can you buy these things these days?
Isn't the BPPC out of production?
What about the CSPPC?
If I was to buy a CSPPC, what would I require? -New hardware?
And CyperStorm MK III is what exactly? -A PPC card with 604e?
I've got an A1200 Blizzard 060@50 mhz.
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Thank you very much. I was wondering about this. I'm writing some software on the 240mhz BPPC and was wondering how much faster it would be on the 233mhz CSPPC.
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The CPPC is the faster system. It has a more advanced CPU and double the buswidth...
PPC wrote:
The CSPPC is way faster then the BPPC, i have a CSPPC with
060&604e@233 and a BPPC 040&603e 240.
The 604e 233 is about 2.3 times faster then the 603e 240.
604e does 380 mips and the 603e 180 if i remember correctly.
Strange. Acording to SysSpeed, my BlizzPPC 603e (240MHz) gets 295 MIPS, 195MFLOPS. Not that MIPS mean much :-)
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And CyperStorm MK III is what exactly? -A PPC card with 604e?
It uses the same board than CyberstormsPPC but without the PPC (doh!)... so basicly you have a mk2 060 with a very fast access to ram, UWSCSI2 (sweet) and the possibility of adding a Permedia2 or a G-Rex...
I wonder if it would be much difficult to turn a MK3 into a Cyberstorm PPC...
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Hmm... Sorry 'bout my first lame questions ;-) I've done some reseach now...
So the CSPPC is only for A4000...
Hmm... This forces me to buy BPPC... But should I go for 603e or 603e+ ? what is the difference? (if both is 233)
Further more I'd like to know if I can get it cheaper than 599 eur? <-That's for a brand new board :-o
-I've been told that BPPC is hard to get as second hand...
Oh, and is it combatible with a mediator board? -As far as I can see It's plugged in the same place as my 1260Blizzard...
Further more I'd like to excuse that I'm a bit off topic and should have started my own thread...
Thanks!
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Souldn't it depend on the code? Code with heavy mem access would be noticeably faster on the Cyberstorm, and the contratry should be true.
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LP wrote: And CyperStorm MK III is what exactly? -A PPC card with 604e?
a cyberstorm MKIII is indeed a ppc card without the ppc :-D
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Jose wrote:
Souldn't it depend on the code? Code with heavy mem access would be noticeably faster on the Cyberstorm, and the contratry should be true.
Nope, because the 604 is a LOT more advanced than the 603.
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But should I go for 603e or 603e+ ? what is the difference? (if both is 233)
The difference between a 603e and a 603e+ is only the SCSI-II controller. The 603e is missing the SCSI controller, and the board can't be upgraded, so if you use SCSI devices you must buy a 603e+ board.
Oh, and is it combatible with a mediator board? -As far as I can see It's plugged in the same place as my 1260Blizzard...
It's just a question of free space above the slot where you install the board. I have a RBM tower, and there are no problems inserting the board there, but then again, it's a hight tower...
If you have the Mediator and a Blizzard1260 already it shouldn't be a problem
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Ok... I see...
Thanks... I'm thinking about buying one...
Cheers!
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l.p: well if u read my signature :)
i have mediator with bppc ...
anyway, yes they are hard to find...sadly...
and even harder to find new ones, if you did..dont spread the word until u have got yours into the house....just a tip :)
anyway they went out of production in 2000 ..or 1999 ... phase5 died and dce took over..
also.. cyberstormppc is for a3000 also :)
there is alot of stuff to talk about here but seriously ...you should ask instead of us rambling away..
a last addition is, not alot of software was available for ppc until 1999, hence why i guess they dropped it at dce + they costed too much to make...
but now its fun enough and the wos and pup stuff is ok enough while we wait for os4 and mos for bppc/csppc... (if they ever come)
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also i have a rbm towerhawk... , doesnt have room for mediator...u need to hack it alot if u have one of theese..
if u need to buy a new tower...either find a pc one who can host a long mobo as the a1200 or get an elbox tower.
cheers