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Title: What changed in AROS?
Post by: Emufreak on August 06, 2003, 09:33:44 AM
I'm just wondering in what ways AROS improved in the last two months. Is it worth to download a new image? What about the tcpip-stack. What about Native 68k-Emulation etc? Maybe someone knows more. I just can't wait for the official status update
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: bloodline on August 06, 2003, 10:54:01 AM
Sorry the status update has been an area where we have been lacking.

I'm responsible for August's update... so you can nag me when it doesn't appear (Only joking Ola, it will be on time) :lol:

But really the area that has had the most work done is Wanderer (our workbench clone). It's now highly customisable (via the magic of Zune), we have Antialiased fonts, the programs and files are now identified by wanderer which figures out how best to deal with an icon when you click on it... we have added some more icons... and the CD-ROM drive is now correctly identified and is given the correct icon (it used to be identified as a floppy disk, and given a floppy icon).

A hard drive installer has been made, but it will wipe your HD and install AROS on it. So don't use it on a hard drive that has any other data on it (that you want to keep).

hmmm... I'm sure there was sometihng else... A clever chap who goes byt the name "Kal" has portd MESA 2.2 OpenGL 3D library to AROS...

Some other "cosmetic" changes have been made...
Lots of work has gone on "under the hood", with Staf designing a new build process, and 64bit CPU work has started for the x86-64 (the Whole AROS code base needs to be be checked to make sure it doesn't use Longs where it should be using Pointers, Damn amiga programmers :-) )

Since Adam has been working Full time on AROS over the past 2 months everything has become quite polished.

and probably some more I've forgoten.


-Edit- the 68K emu will probably in hte works for a while, it's not as easy it is with the PPC (where everything is big endian)
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: olegil on August 06, 2003, 11:54:32 AM
It's great to see the man who doesn't trust the OS4 feature list admit to lack of status updates on RELEASED items from his own project.

What goes around comes around, I guess ;-)

Good luck with that update, and may your sense of humour see the joke in this post :-)
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: bloodline on August 06, 2003, 12:03:46 PM
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olegil wrote:
It's great to see the man who doesn't trust the OS4 feature list admit to lack of status updates on RELEASED items from his own project.

What goes around comes around, I guess ;-)

Good luck with that update, and may your sense of humour see the joke in this post :-)


Me? A sense of humour?!?! How dare you!! :lol:

Well, I'm not responsible for July... so we can blame some else for that :-P (Personally I blame Ola)
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: Emufreak on August 07, 2003, 09:27:38 AM
Is UAE included in the nightlybuild on the AROS-Page?
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: bloodline on August 07, 2003, 10:43:28 AM
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Emufreak wrote:
Is UAE included in the nightlybuild on the AROS-Page?


I'm not sure... :-/  you have to supply your own ROM image at the moment (until we have an Amiga-68k build of AROS).
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: Emufreak on August 07, 2003, 11:23:12 AM
I have a ROM-Image. That should be no problem
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: bloodline on August 07, 2003, 11:28:30 AM
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Emufreak wrote:
I have a ROM-Image. That should be no problem


I'll have to look into it then... but at the memonet unless you can figure out how to mount floppy images as Hard drives in WinUAE (or use linux and mount the image as a drive in Linux, but then you could just AROS yourself with UAE and the ROM included), it's going to be hard to get the Rom image into AROS... Since AROS can't read PC (Fat12)  floppies and the PC drive can't read amiga floppies :-(
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: Emufreak on August 07, 2003, 12:32:26 PM
But AROS Reads burned CDs. So I'll just burn the ROM on a CD.
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: bloodline on August 07, 2003, 12:35:18 PM
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But AROS Reads burned CDs. So I'll just burn the ROM on a CD.


Cough... do you want my job? :-P
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: Emufreak on August 07, 2003, 01:48:51 PM
Well I thought I'd just install AROS on my Harddisk. I'm sure I'll find some old unused Harddisk somewhere. Then I'll copy the ROM from some burned CD in the UAE Directory. That should be quite easy or I'm missing something?
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: bloodline on August 07, 2003, 02:00:32 PM
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Emufreak wrote:
Well I thought I'd just install AROS on my Harddisk. I'm sure I'll find some old unused Harddisk somewhere. Then I'll copy the ROM from some burned CD in the UAE Directory. That should be quite easy or I'm missing something?


yup, that's how you do it.
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: Karlos on August 07, 2003, 02:11:11 PM
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bloodline wrote:
Some other "cosmetic" changes have been made...
Lots of work has gone on "under the hood", with Staf designing a new build process, and 64bit CPU work has started for the x86-64 (the Whole AROS code base needs to be be checked to make sure it doesn't use Longs where it should be using Pointers, Damn amiga programmers :-) )


:lol: You must really love TagLists then!
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: dammy on August 07, 2003, 03:11:13 PM
by Emufreak on 2003/8/7 8:48:51

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Well I thought I'd just install AROS on my Harddisk. I'm sure I'll find some old unused Harddisk somewhere. Then I'll copy the ROM from some burned CD in the UAE Directory. That should be quite easy or I'm missing something?


The install may not work since there is a bug in the ide.device.  Which of course, is a subject of a TeamAROS bounty project (http://www.thenostromo.com/teamaros/).  

Dammy
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: Varthall on August 07, 2003, 03:33:14 PM
I've read that AROS has still no support for sound... so does this imply that also Aros' UAE has no sound? I'd really love to install Aros on my portable computer and use it to boot Uae, I would be then able to use AHX for some tracking.

Varthall
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: bloodline on August 07, 2003, 03:40:43 PM
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Varthall wrote:
I've read that AROS has still no support for sound... so does this imply that also Aros' UAE has no sound? I'd really love to install Aros on my portable computer and use it to boot Uae, I would be then able to use AHX for some tracking.

Varthall


We do have AHI... just no sound drivers for it :-/

Dammy, that would be a good bounty... I might get one started.

I'm wokring on a music program, using SDL as the Media layer (it would be easier if there was a good gui tool kit for it) currently be work on in Linux and windows... but since it uses no system specific stuff (everything is via SDL) I hope to port it to AROS where I will realease it :-D
Title: Re: What changed in AROS?
Post by: dammy on August 07, 2003, 03:49:26 PM
by bloodline on 2003/8/7 10:40:43

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Dammy, that would be a good bounty... I might get one started.


Let me know the details and I'll have it up ASAP.

Dammy