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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Tomas on August 05, 2003, 08:09:38 PM
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http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030805/latu094_1.html (http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/030805/latu094_1.html)
http://slashdot.org/articles/03/08/05/1721238.shtml?tid=106&tid=185&tid=187&tid=88&tid=98&tid=99 (http://slashdot.org/articles/03/08/05/1721238.shtml?tid=106&tid=185&tid=187&tid=88&tid=98&tid=99)
I find this amazing... how can a company be this cruel?
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Probably their butt-buddies Microsoft trying to kill off Linux using SCO as a puppet.
Its laughable, really - people will still keep using Linux and open source no matter what one company say or do.
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Its laughable, really - people will still keep using Linux and open source no matter what one company say or do.
Sure, but there is also alot of companies using linux for servers and such, this will scary many to actually pay them the license or move on to other systems like windows instead just because of the fear of being sued.
This will severly hurt linux :-(
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Ah well.. FUD campaing at it's best.
Edit:
Reminds me of certain other Campaign a bit over year ago.. "Get Legal or Else.... "
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Well, perhaps this is a possible light at the end of another long dark tunnel.
http://www.forbes.com/technology/2003/08/04/cz_dl_0804linux.html (http://www.forbes.com/technology/2003/08/04/cz_dl_0804linux.html)
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yeah, i just hope IBM is keeping them with funding :-)
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The industry leading Linux vendor (i.e. Red Hat**) has initiated a counter court action against SCO. **Red Hat is part of the Unbreakable Linux alliance (includes Oracle and Dell Corp).
It seems that X86 based Linux vendors is headed for the battle of Armageddon.
Refer to
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10849
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=10856
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Well. if it were only 699$ ... but..
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/32187.html
Come October 15, the single CPU fee jumps to a whopping $1,399.
Looks like their greed has no limit.
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Well, we knew SCO is trying to pump-n-dump the stock, but this little announcement probably went something like this:
MS exec#1: "Jeez, Ed, you were friggin' hammered last night."
MS exec#2: "Yeah. Did I do anything stupid?"
MS exec#1: "You called Darl McBride and told him to charge linux users $700 a pop to have a legal 2.4 kernel."
MS exec#2: "Really? Did he do it?"
MS exec#1: "Yeah."
Both: "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!"
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IF worst case happens; Linux’s demise may give other open sourced OS** some chance in the open source markets.
**These include;
1. Open VMS.
2. AROS.
3. FreeBSD and variants (currently, third most used OS in the X86).
4. Open BeOS.
5. Windows CE
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It won't happen. SCO have ####ed up their arguments more than once already. The whole thing is just an attempt at getting some money before they are gone...
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> 5. Windows CE
??Open source?
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Olegil: I know you are right about the real cause and I sincerely hope you are also right of result of lawsuit, but unfortunately on todays Lawer (and money) ruled world it's not certain-
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T_Bone wrote:
> 5. Windows CE
??Open source?
Try
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=Open+source+Windows+CE&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en&meta=
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Open source for vendors and the ilk NOT for free download like Linux is.
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jeffimix wrote:
Open source for vendors and the ilk NOT for free download like Linux is.
Where do you freely download Lindows**, "Red Hat Enterprise Linux**" and Xandros OS, **?
Careful with any generalizations, since there are commercial Linux distros…
PS; FreeBSD can be also freely (legal) downloaded.
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Even more fud from the evil company SCO: SCO Targets US Government, TiVo
An anonymous reader writes "According to SCO, if you have a TiVo set-top box, or those models of Sharp Zaurus which use Linux, someone now owes them $32, since the company wants money 'for each embedded system using Linux.' SCO also says government agencies must pay up to $699 for each copy of Linux that they use."
http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20030806S0025 (http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20030806S0025)
http://www.washingtontechnology.com/news/1_1/daily_news/21384-1.html (http://www.washingtontechnology.com/news/1_1/daily_news/21384-1.html)
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Redhat enterprise is not free cause it includes commercial programs and has support... Linux in itself is still free
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Before passing judgement on SCO, ask yourself this, "could SCO IP be embedded into the Linux kernal?" If it is, then there is a whole new light. However, I do believe that this should end up in court.
At the end of the day, I find myself reserving judgement for either side. And, that's the bottom line. Because StoneCold said so!
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Tomas wrote:
also says government agencies must pay up to $699 for each copy of Linux that they use."
Actually, it says $699 per single CPU computer, implying that more than 1 CPU may be 699 each!!!! Because I read about 2 weeks ago, that some high powered computers may be charged $10,000 dollars!!!!
I wonder how that affects intel's hyperthreading tech? :-)
Thanks, but I'll stick with Amiga!
A1!
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This all hinges around the GPL - it's the first real test of it.
Caldera (who owned SCO and have since changed their name to SCO) released various flavours of Linux (I still have some of them on CD) under the GPL. At that point they released all the code in their distributions under the GPL.
If the issues with the code do exist, then at that point they gave away the family jewels.
The issue for SCO is to prove that they (as Caldera) did not knowingly release the alleged SCO code under the GPL. Everything else is IMO a dead issue as long as the GPL holds water in court!
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Redhat enterprise is not free cause it includes commercial programs and has support... Linux in itself is still free
Of course the Linux kernel and GNU ecosystem is free…
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@Targhan
Before passing judgement on SCO, ask yourself this, "could SCO IP be embedded into the Linux kernal?"
It's not as simple as that. If there is any "SCO IP" in the Linux kernel, it needs to be established if SCO really own that IP and who put it there.
Let's remember that SCO used to be Caldera, and they had their own Linux distros for many years. If Caldera knowingly released what SCO claim to be their IP under the GPL, then the argument changes once again.
If it is, then there is a whole new light. However, I do believe that this should end up in court.
Yes, as long as it's done quickly. The point is that SCO do not want it to get resolved quickly because it suits them better to take advantage of the uncertainty they have caused. Essentially, it's FUD.
My own judgement is not "reserved". It's not set in stone, but at any given time my judgement is based on the facts available to me. Since I have seen no proof of SCO's claim, I choose not to believe them.
Remember that Caldera/SCO is a failing company, run by incompetent management. They found they could not have a competitive product so they have decided to set fire to their own house and try to claim the insurance.
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@bhoggett:
Excactly.
They released code under GPL, it's a bit late to come back and say "we didn't read the license" now.
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Is "lawyer" the only job on the planet with tenure and security?
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/32229.html
go big blue go