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Title: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: SamOS39 on March 09, 2008, 03:36:04 PM: What files do i need ..? what settings on UAE..? ..etc

Cheers
Samm.
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: SamOS39 on March 09, 2008, 08:33:28 PM: anyone .. :-(
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: Piru on March 09, 2008, 08:41:18 PM: Misc / [v] bsdsocket.library emulation

No extra files needed.
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: SamOS39 on March 09, 2008, 08:42:52 PM: cool cheers!

.. and thats it ..? do i need to do any settings through a TCP/IP stack or anything ..?
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: Piru on March 09, 2008, 08:44:16 PM: What TCP/IP stack? There isn't any.

The thing is 100% built-in to WinUAE, you musn't install any TPC/IP stack.

PS. If you really want to, you can install a TCP/IP stack (amitcp or miami for example). Then you must disable 'bsdsocket.library emulation' and enable 'uaenet.device'. Then in the TCP/IP stack you must choose uaenet.device as the SANA2 driver. The uaenet.device is probably still under development (and possibly buggy), so if in doubt, use bsdsocket.library emulation.
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: SamOS39 on March 09, 2008, 09:06:06 PM: Is this the right one?

http://aminet.net/package/comm/tcp/socket_lib12

I found this and put the lib in my libs folder .. but nothings happened..

and where can i get uaenet.device? i cant find it on aminet
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: Piru on March 09, 2008, 09:09:34 PM: You must not add any files!

With bsdsocket.library emulation you do not need any TCP/IP stack.
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: SamOS39 on March 09, 2008, 09:17:05 PM: Ok, i got that part .. cheers.

But i dont know where to get bsdsocket.library ..?
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on March 09, 2008, 09:22:13 PM: Quote

Piru wrote:
Then in the TCP/IP stack you must choose uaenet.device as the SANA2 driver.
Sounds like a design error to me :-S
Now if they just emulated a network card... then the standard (AFAIK) Banyan Vines network could also be used. Dunno how many programs use that.

I mean, the emulated OS adapting to the emulator, yuck!

-edit- oh wait, I was wrong, sorry for this of topic bladder...
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: Piru on March 09, 2008, 09:24:47 PM: @SamOS39

Quote
But i dont know where to get bsdsocket.library ..?

I try once again:

You
do
not
need
to
add
any
files

It just works. It's magic.
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: SamOS39 on March 09, 2008, 09:27:07 PM: But
It
Doesnt
Work
So
I
Obviously
Need
To
Do
Something ..
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: Piru on March 09, 2008, 09:27:40 PM: The only thing you must do is to select the "bsdsocket.library emulation".

That's it.
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: pyrre on March 09, 2008, 09:33:48 PM: Quote
The only thing you must do is to select the "bsdsocket.library emulation".

In the settings options for WinUAE, before launching the emulation!!!
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: SamOS39 on March 09, 2008, 09:35:55 PM: @pyrre

THANK YOU!!! :-D
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: Trev on March 09, 2008, 09:38:55 PM: But what exactly isn't working? As Piru said, it's magic--WinUAE emulates an in-memory bsdsocket.library. Any software that loads bsdoscket.library will find it. This is the way it works on a real Amiga as well (after installing a stack, of course, which adds an in-memory bsdsocket.library just like WinUAE does). There is no bsdsocket.library file. It doesn't exist.

So, enable bsdsocket.library emulation, start WinUAE, [install an OS, etc.], and launch AWeb or IBrowse or ping or telnet or whatever it is you want to use. You do have to install those programs, of course.

EDIT:

I'll also add that uaenet.device isn't necessarily buggy (in the latest WinUAE beta), but it is quirky. It rides on WinPCAP, and all of WinPCAP's peculiarities carry over into uaenet.device. That could change, depending on Toni's priorities, but it looks like Picasso96 optimization is up front at the moment. In the meantime, uaenet.device is Very Cool--and my favorite WinUAE feature, since it works (in theory) with all versions of Kickstart and Workbench.
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: Piru on March 09, 2008, 09:45:50 PM: Well duh. Never take anything granted (TM)

For me it is quite obvious you can't toggle those options runtime, but I guess this isn't obvious for everyone.
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: Trev on March 09, 2008, 09:48:43 PM: Many of the options can be toggled at runtime, though, and it's not clear which they are....
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: Piru on March 09, 2008, 10:17:34 PM: Hmm indeed.

As a rule of thumb: Anything related to the state of the emulation itself typically can't be toggled runtime (say CPU type, amount of memory, P96 emulation, bsdsocket emulation etc).

Things related to the WinUAE itself or the WinUAE GUI (say CPU emulation speed, whether some leds are displayed on GUI, or if the screen is output in window mode or fullscreen) are editable runtime.

I bet there are some exceptions though...
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: Jools on April 24, 2015, 01:38:06 PM: Where is the option to enable bsdsocket emulation? I'm using winuae 3.00, did this option disappear?
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: carvedeye on April 24, 2015, 07:29:54 PM: Here is a pic to show you.
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: Oldsmobile_Mike on April 24, 2015, 08:16:25 PM: Quote from: carvedeye;788323
Here is a pic to show you.

Under "Misc". The obvious place to look, LOL. Man, I always hated WinUAE. So much better using the real hardware. :banana:
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: alphadec on April 24, 2015, 08:24:37 PM: here is a another picture that shows u how to
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: zipper on April 24, 2015, 08:26:00 PM: @carvedeye
Wonder what version you have there...

Seems to be on Expansions on the latest beta.
Title: Re: How do i access the internet through WinUAE?
Post by: carvedeye on April 24, 2015, 10:12:17 PM: Quote from: zipper;788329
@carvedeye
Wonder what version you have there...

Seems to be on Expansions on the latest beta.

Sorry that is just an image of the net i have uploaded, it was just an example :)

Here is the current Winuae build.