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Title: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: sprocket on March 02, 2008, 02:30:07 AM
What's a progressive peripherals 040 2000 card with 32 megs installed worth?
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: spihunter on March 02, 2008, 03:55:49 AM
About $100 USD

Seriously, thats what mine sold for a year ago.
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: actung_bab on March 02, 2008, 05:58:53 AM
id say at least 200 us l been trying to buy a cpu card for my amiga 4000 project damm prices have gone silly.

 :-D
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: actung_bab on March 02, 2008, 06:08:59 AM
id say at least 200 us l been trying to buy a cpu card for my amiga 4000 project damm prices have gone silly.

 :-D
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: alexh on March 02, 2008, 10:00:12 AM
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actung_bab wrote:
id say at least 200 us l been trying to buy a cpu card for my amiga 4000 project damm prices have gone silly.

It depends what you want. You can get a 25MHz A3640 for under $80. I bought a 40MHz Apollo 4040 last month for $125. It's the Cyberstorm cards which demand big bucks.
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: alexh on March 02, 2008, 10:02:41 AM
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sprocket wrote:
What's a progressive peripherals 040 2000 card with 32 megs installed worth?

Which model is is? What speed is the 040?
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: AMC258 on March 02, 2008, 10:04:30 AM
Geez.  $100?  I'd kill for a 040 for a 2000 (or at least I would have before I got a 060  :-D )

A3640s are a bad example.  They are problematic.
And no one with an A3000D in it's original case is going to buy one (unless of course they run their A3000D outside around here in January), so the market is smaller.
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: Lemmink on March 02, 2008, 11:38:12 AM
It depends on how compatible the card is, as it is a card from the "early days" ´Beeing limited to 32 MB is a drawback as well. On the positive side the RAM banks are already fully populted so the buyer does not have to search for 4 MB simms.
In any case 100$ is too little unless the there ar  huge compatibility issues. If it were a blizzard 2040 it won't go for under 200 EUR, so I guess 100 EUR / 150 $ would be a good price. Maybe even a little bit more when you can confirm that it runs well with "modern" OS and Software.
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: sprocket on March 02, 2008, 11:47:02 AM
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Which model is is? What speed is the 040?


This card only comes one way...

Processor:     040@33Mhz
FPU:    Internal
MMU:    Internal
Max Ram:    32MB
Ram Type:    8 x 32pin SIMM slots.

http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=202

(the cooler fan is in place on mine...I assume they've moved it out of place in the images at the above link to see the processor)

This one is populated with 32 mb of ram and the jumpers are configured to auto configure the first 2 megs of ram.

It can be configured to auto configure 2-8 megs of ram at startup.  I think I have a disk around here too so I assume there's software to make the remaining ram available.

32 didn't seem so limited to me...I mean it would be great for most things.  

Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: sprocket on March 02, 2008, 12:55:04 PM
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so I guess 100 EUR / 150 $ would be a good price. Maybe even a little bit more when you can confirm that it runs well with "modern" OS and Software.


The 2000 it is in has 2.1 on it.  It has been used with Toaster (2000) software as well as a PAR, Sunrize sound board and various other animation and graphically heavy uses.

I don't have a CD rom in that machine so putting 3.9 on it to test would require ROMs and a CD and I'm afraid getting 3.x ROMs to test 3.1-3.9 isn't practical.

Considering the above software mentions I wouldn't anticipate any issues.
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: dannyp1 on March 02, 2008, 02:02:28 PM
I recently sold a G-Force 030 X 25 with 5 megs of ram for $85 buy it now (with manual and disk) and it was snapped up quickly so I would say yours is worth more.  I had bought it for $100, took 8 megs of ram out of it (for a G-Force 030 x 50 I needed ram for), and then resold it.

Dan
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: sprocket on March 02, 2008, 02:07:19 PM
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and it was snapped up quickly so I would say yours is worth more


Yeah, I'm thinking Lemmink is close with his mention of $150+...I figure with the 32megs on the card, a 33 Mhz 040 is worth $150-165.  2000 accelerators seem more scarce these days to me...as they were produced mid to late 80s.

My understanding is that there is an advantage to the processor slot in a 2000 having quicker access to ram anyway.

The next stop is an 060 card and those go for quite a bit more than that so this seems reasonable.

Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: sprocket on March 02, 2008, 02:10:18 PM
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I recently sold a G-Force 030 X 25 with 5 megs of ram for $85 buy it now


btw, I do have a GVP 030 card with scsi and 1 SIMM of ram on it but haven't been able to get it to function.

I'd be interested if anyone thinks a "pig in a poke" like that is worth anything?  It still may be repairable...I just haven't figured out what the problem is yet.  kind of doubt it's worth tracking down a GVP repair though.

Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: spihunter on March 02, 2008, 02:19:59 PM
Mine only went for $100 because it was the PP&S board that you had to do all the tricks to load all the memory. It was not autoconfig.

Maybe I sold it for $125. I cant remember back that far :lol:
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: sandpiper on March 02, 2008, 02:59:11 PM
Yes, you have to do some tricks to get the memory configured. Use a program like FastExec to to this because the bundled software does not work with later versions of the OS (3.x). Once you get it configured, it is an excellent card. I probably still have my settings around somewhere...

I bought one of these in the late '90s for about $200 and sold it a few years later for about the same amount when I upgraded. It is probably worth at least the same amount now with the shortage of accelerators out there.
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: sprocket on March 02, 2008, 03:10:28 PM
thanks, valuable info...

hadn't tried it on other then the 2.1 2000 it was in so knowing about FastExec is a plus if I let it go.

found it on aminet at:

http://aminet.net/util/boot/FastExec29.lha

I may just list it on ebay this afternoon if I can manage to get a pic.

unless someone wants to offer me $150-200 for it.

I've got one guy considering it who I sold a monitor to a while ago so unless someone raises their hand soon I'm thinking it's future is on ebay.

; )


Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: adolescent on March 02, 2008, 03:43:45 PM
If it was a Zeus I would say $150-200.  For a normal PP&S 040 probably $100.
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: sprocket on March 02, 2008, 03:55:40 PM
I dunno...I'd say a Zeus was worth more than $200.

guess it depends on what you're looking for.
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: sprocket on March 02, 2008, 04:06:43 PM
to the person who messaged me privately on the '030 card I sent you a response privately...just mentioning because I know everyone doesn't check their messages but may get email when new posts are on threads.
Title: AMIGA IS MORE THAN COMPUTER IT'S AN INVESTMENT!!!
Post by: amiga1084 on March 02, 2008, 05:37:30 PM
AMIGA IS MORE THAN COMPUTER IT'S AN INVESTMENT!!!

THANKS MERV
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: melott on March 02, 2008, 07:01:44 PM
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AMC258 wrote:

A3640s are a bad example.  They are problematic.
And no one with an A3000D in it's original case is going to buy one (unless of course they run their A3000D outside around here in January), so the market is smaller.


I have to disagree here .......
I gave my wife an A3000D/16mhz with an A3640 card for
gaming a couple years ago. Runs great..no problems.

Mel

BTW .. I think I payed $45 US for the Rev 3.1 card

Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: AMC258 on March 02, 2008, 07:37:36 PM
Have you made sure your capacitors are installed correctly?  Also, how did you overcome the heat issue?  I've put A3640s in several A3000s, and I always had to cut holes and/or add fans.  More heat than a Derringer 030/50 on top of a MegaChip!
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: sandpiper on March 02, 2008, 07:39:50 PM
@sprocket

Here are the argumnets that I used with Fastexec to configure 32MB of memory...

C:FastEXEC ADDMEM 0x8000000 0x200000 5 10 ADDMEM 0x8400000 0x1C00000 5 10 ADDRESS 0x8000000 FASTEXP FASTSSP FASTVBR FASTMEM FASTINT CACHE 0x80001111 REBOOT
 
I can't remember if this was the latest & greatest that I used; it was a long time ago.

This goes just prior to SetPatch in the startup-sequence.
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: motrucker on March 02, 2008, 07:59:06 PM
I just bought a GVP G-Force 040 for $150.00 with 16Mb of RAM. I paid too much, but had broken the 030 card that was in the A2000 I use.(my dog is getting expensive - long story)
Prices are nuts these days. They can change on a daily basis! Personally, If I was to list it on eBay, I would use a $150.00 buy it now/best offer and see what happens.
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: sprocket on March 02, 2008, 08:03:00 PM
yeah, that's sort of what I'm thinking...maybe even a few dollars more assuming someone interested would make an offer.
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: sprocket on March 02, 2008, 09:42:46 PM
OK, went ahead and listed it as well as some other things....we'll see what kind of offers come or if someone snatches it up.


http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=malibulion

thanks for your interest.
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: sprocket on March 03, 2008, 11:43:52 AM
fyi...

several hits on the counter, a few watchers, one offer for the full amount if I could accept his Money Order...unfortunately, the reason I'm clearing this stuff out is I could use the funds pdq and Paypal is the quickest way so I felt I'd leave it up and see if someone else had a similar need.

make me an offer...
Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: sprocket on March 04, 2008, 01:50:09 PM
for those who may not have noticed, the PP 040 sold with 'buy it now' at $160 yesterday...being shipped to Australia!

we live on a tiny blue ball...all things are possible!

fyi, there's still a number of other items up with several ending in the next day or so....if you're interested.

http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=malibulion

Title: Re: ? on value of an 040 for a 2000?
Post by: AlaCarcuss on March 05, 2008, 02:28:12 AM
Yep - that'd be me - G'day Mate!

I read all the way to the bottom of this thread before I realised that's the card I just bought - hehe  :-D

Small blue ball just got even smaller hey sprocket!!  

Now I know where to find ya if the bloody thing don't work! - hehe just kidding.... :laughing:

Funny thing is, a day or so earlier I won an A2630 - it's on it's way from the US too.  Oh well - maybe I can run'em in parallel for a 070 @ 58mhz!  :-?  Now that'd be a bloody unique miggy :-D