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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: sprocket on February 25, 2008, 12:03:12 AM
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Amiga A 3640 rev. 3.1 CPU card for 3000/4000 CPU slot.
http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=malibulion
going, going, gone...
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$150 for an untested A3640? You're joking right? Halve that price and it would still be expensive.
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Hi! please tell us your joking mate, I choked on my coffee when I saw your auction, fair dinkum your having a laugh right!:)
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I did say it was a working pull.
I've never had a working pull from my equipment fail to function.
100% positive feedback means either it works or I make it right and I've never had to make it right.
Having said that, I'm sure I can manage to open a machine up and successfully test it...I may be able to take care of that today.
I also include a "return for money back" in 7 days in the return policy area!
As for the price, I will repeat what I've said concerning other listings...
I've used the 'fixed price' listing and accepts offers.
I'm consistently amused at how many on here think telling a seller what something is worth will get them to give it away.
fyi, the same card has sold for $120+ in the recent past on ebay in various countries.
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sprocket wrote:
I did say it was a working pull.
fyi, the same card has sold for $120+ in the recent past on ebay in various countries.
I remember seeing the $120 card on eBay, BUT it didn't sell.
There are some Amiga cards that just don't bring much. These no RAMed clunkers fall into that catagory. I have one I would love to sell too....
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I remember seeing the $120 card on eBay, BUT it didn't sell.
this one did...
http://cgi.ebay.com/Amiga-3000-4000-A3640-68040-CPU-accelerator-card_W0QQitemZ120220673829
there's another up now with a few days to go that's already has bids.
These no RAMed clunkers fall into that catagory.
also, my understanding is that memory can be added with the X-Calibur memory expansion board.
accelerators with RAM, fully populated, are going to go for more...if someone already has RAM they may have a different opinion of what a thing is worth.
We have marketplace forums so users can mention when they're selling or seen something others might want. All sorts start offering value judgements.
Thing is it always comes down to the same thing...if one person needs a thing, for the right price, it will sell.
I repeat, make me an offer.
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Doesn't the A4000 come with an 040 already? (Stock). Thanks. (Just curious).
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4000T has an 040 or 060 card in the cpu slot and no processor on the mobo.
4000D also uses a cpu in the slot I believe.
3000 has 030 on the motherboard but has a cpu slot too.
you might want this if your cpu card is broken..
...or for a 3000 where this cards noted conflicts with some zorro cards won't impact you.
everyone's hardware is getting older and things do sometimes require replacements or backup.
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God knows what happened in that Oz auction.
$45 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140205138389) is more like what it's worth.
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I sold my A3640 v3.1 for ~$110 on eBay when I got my Cyberstorm. Keep in mind this is the states and the Amiga prices are not the same as in Europe. Also, with the weak US$ this isn't that bad of a deal.
Here's (http://cgi.ebay.com/Amiga-3000-4000-A3640-68040-CPU-accelerator-card_W0QQitemZ120220673829QQihZ002QQcategoryZ4598QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) the one that sold for ~$120.
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I typically list smaller items that aren't problematic to ship as available for "worldwide" shipment.
(Considering the exchange rate for U.S. $ where .67 EUR = $1 even with shipping sellers can be ahead in other countries.)
..I do like how people telling me it isn't worth having is keeping the thread active and getting more traffic to the listing!
hehe
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They are all off to bid here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150218116842) ;-)
Is yours a full 040 or an LC (i.e. No FPU)?
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XC68040HRC25M
full - 25 Mhz
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last chance for offers...I have some but am waiting to see what happens..
a bit less than 8 hours to go so if you're interested make me an offer.
thanks for your interest.
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One of these has just sold on uk.ebay for £26.00 which seems reasonable.
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Please preface eBay posts with FA instead of FS. There are a number of us who want nothing to do with eBay and it's a waste of our time to click a FS post and see it's just eBay.
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FS is accurate for fixed price sales or best offer sales.
If ebay is the issue perhaps the admins should add a new category for ebay in addition to marketplace.
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sprocket wrote:
FS is accurate for fixed price sales or best offer sales.
If ebay is the issue perhaps the admins should add a new category for ebay in addition to marketplace.
And $150 is fair for a 3640. I paid less for a Phase5 CyberStorm MkII.
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fair is what market brings.
...and I'll repeat, FS OR best offer. Asking price is rarely what's expected when someone adds "best offer".
geeez...
(don't want anything to do with ebay but you obviously followed the link to see what it was.)
; )
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No I did not. I read the thread.
Fair market is not what the market brings. Case in point, the southern California housing market. An 800 square foot condo conversion is NOT worth $1 million.
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sprocket wrote:
I'm consistently amused at how many on here think telling a seller what something is worth will get them to give it away.
Well said!
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A6000 wrote:
One of these has just sold on uk.ebay for £26.00 which seems reasonable.
Ya right... found in a trashcan... worked 5 minutes...
Smelled dog food...or dog berries...
Or just plain luck...
The other interesting thing with european buyers is they always ask for a cheaper shipping... even if you've already offered the cheapest available shipping method...
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Fair market is not what the market brings.
then what standard does establish market value if not the market?
new price?
50% of new or wholesale?
50% minus 5% a year since it was new?
Since it's been 10+ years since most of this stuff was made it should all be worthless but there's loads of folks who still seem to want specific pieces of hardware. Given there are very few current manufacturers of hardware for Amigas it's a fixed supply.
New prices typically are a bit more than double what it cost the company to make it. Resale prices are generally arbitrary and are driven by demand.
I had an offer of $80 for the card in question by someone who subsequently got one from another source. I accepted his apology for offering while taking the other offer and declined his offer. Having said that, $80 is more than those on here seemed to think it was worth and like most things on ebay or for sale anywhere you can find examples of sales for very little or maybe even a bit more than you'd expect. If someone has a need for something value becomes fluid and the worth of an item in good condition is anyone's guess.
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The fact you aint sold it yet is argument enough ;-)
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The fact you aint sold it yet is argument enough
heh...
(Must be nice to feel validation so easily.)
if selling an item within a 3 day listing is the test then you'd have to say 90% aren't priced or listed correctly.
20-30% of items I've listed didn't sell the first time I listed them or placed ads elsewhere.
Just giving people a chance to look at something doesn't mean they need it or that the right person sees it.
My usual method is to attempt relisting and if an item still doesn't sell to combine it with other items (i.e. install it in a machine to raise it's value, etc.)
Buying used equipment requires research and knowing what you want and what you're willing to pay. Selling requires finding the right person who wants what you have. It has nothing to do with the myriad of folks willing to kibbutz about what they think about your item, who have no intention of bidding, offering or buying.
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do you think it's really worth it ? I mean why the hassle to squeeze every penny possible ? If you just put it on sale here for $70, somebody would have grabbed it by now and you would have avoided all the negative reaction from the people. Add to it the ebay hassle and listing fees. I think you're following a really wrong strategy. Ebay is not meant to fixed price sales anyway. The trick with ebay is to list something with a low starting price and have people looking. If you want to do fixed price/ offers accepted kind of thing avoiding ebay and listing directly here or amibay (http://www.guildserver.co.uk/forums/amibay1/index.php) would give much better results with little hassle.
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Add to it the ebay hassle and listing fees. I think you're following a really wrong strategy. Ebay is not meant to fixed price sales anyway.
I've only recently begun using 'fixed price/best offer' listings as a way of accommodating those who've complained about auctions being designed to get every penny out of buyers!
My assumption was that if I gave buyers an opportunity to make an offer and to get the sale over with it would be a way everyone could get what they wanted and it would be quicker.
It seems no matter how you put things out there, there will always be those who are critical and who aren't really interested in making an offer or buying.
I've had many more transactions on ebay (via another account) and elsewhere and find that there are enough of those sales that go through at a high price to make up for relisting. ..and I've had auctions starting at a low price go without bids as well. No matter how you do it there will be problems.
as for the negative reaction of some, I've written amiga.org and suggested that ebay posts be separate from marketplace posts and believe that if ebay posts are standardized and supporting information is provided the negative reactions of some will be less....but mostly they'll just be less reason to respond. Anyone really interested will just make an offer or bid.
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Your buy it now price tells buyers the sort of price you want to get for it, if I were in your place I would consider an $80 offer against a $150 BIN price as laughable, which is probably why you got few offers.
I would set the starting price at the minimum sale price and hope it sells for more.
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sprocket wrote:
I've only recently begun using 'fixed price/best offer' listings as a way of accommodating those who've complained about auctions being designed to get every penny out of buyers!
This thread has reached the ridiculous. Specially the bit about market value....
While I am not a fan of this particular card. I do agree with Sprocket concerning eBay. I both buy and sell there. You have to be careful, but you can surely make it work for you.