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Title: 060 WB3.1 Install disk???
Post by: amigadave on February 22, 2008, 08:46:06 PM
I've searched, but not found ALL of the libraries and other files I need to add to a copy of the Install3.1 diskette to be able to do a fresh install of OS3.1 then OS3.9 on an unformatted 4GB HD inside my A4000T w/CSPPC.

I get to a blank Workbench screen, but no further, so I know I am missing some file besides the ones I added a few days ago (can't remember all of them).

Can anyone help?

P.S. Both my CSPPC System disk and the SCSI disk are unreadable now, so I can't pull files off them.
Title: Re: 060 WB3.1 Install disk???
Post by: Matt_H on February 22, 2008, 09:14:01 PM
In addition to the dummy 68040.library and real 68060.library, you also need workbench.library. You can extract it from an image of Kickstart 3.1 for any other Amiga (it's not in the 4000T ROM). Space on the Install floppy is going to be tight, though. I'd suggest deleting expendable stuff (BRU) from a copy, adding the new files, booting from that, and then using the original/unmodified copy to run the install itself. Then copy the new files back to the hard disk manually.

The reason you need to use an unmodified disk to install is that the Installer will probably choke when it can't find whatever was removed from the other copy.

EDIT: Replacement phase5 files here (http://phase5.a1k.org/).
Title: Re: 060 WB3.1 Install disk???
Post by: davideo on February 22, 2008, 09:15:03 PM
You have PM  8-)
Title: Re: 060 WB3.1 Install disk???
Post by: amigadave on February 22, 2008, 11:51:47 PM
Quote

Matt_H wrote:
In addition to the dummy 68040.library and real 68060.library, you also need workbench.library. You can extract it from an image of Kickstart 3.1 for any other Amiga (it's not in the 4000T ROM). Space on the Install floppy is going to be tight, though. I'd suggest deleting expendable stuff (BRU) from a copy, adding the new files, booting from that, and then using the original/unmodified copy to run the install itself. Then copy the new files back to the hard disk manually.

The reason you need to use an unmodified disk to install is that the Installer will probably choke when it can't find whatever was removed from the other copy.

EDIT: Replacement phase5 files here (http://phase5.a1k.org/).


I took your advice and removed BRU and a few other files, but must have taken one too many, to get the workbench library to fit on the 880kb disk, because now I get a guru meditation when I try to boot with that disk.

Here is what is on my 060 Install3.1 disk copy:

C/
  AddBuffers  444
  Assign  3220
  BindDrivers  1420
  Copy  5580
  Cpu060  2992
  Delete  1972
  FindResident  220
  LoadWB  1136
  MakeDir  464
  Reboot  84
  SetPatch  32688
  Version  4764
  Wait  852
Devs/
  system-configuration  232
HDSetup/
  PrepScripts/
    ReselectOff  35
    ReselectOn  34
  English.info  581
  HDSetup  58033
HDTools/
  S/
    HDBackup.config  1559
  drive definitions  322
  HDToolBox  104568
  HDToolBox.info  920
Install/
  English.info  564
  Install  139083
L/
  FastFileSystem  26124
Libs/
  68040.library  412
  68060.library  107560
  iffparse.library  6832
  locale.library  18072
  version.library  272
  workbench.library  199852
Prefs/
  Env-Archive/
    Sys/
      wbconfig.prefs  54
  Presets/
    (Persets is empty directory)
S/
  Startup-Sequence  270
System/
  Format  13368
Update/
  aux-handler  3784
  Disk.info  848
  port-handler  2424
  Startup-HardDrive  1274
  Startup-MapROM  1337
Disk.info  388
HDSetup.info  628
HDTools.info  628
Install.info  632
Installer  61640

Can anyone help me with files I need and do not need to make an 060 Install3.1 disk?

Edit: formatting lost in posting, I hope you can read this okay.
Title: Re: 060 WB3.1 Install disk???
Post by: Matt_H on February 23, 2008, 12:04:30 AM
Hmmmm... a Guru is normal behavior for an 060 Amiga without the 060 libs installed... I'd suggest trying different versions. I'm using 68040.library 46.5 (748bytes) and 68060.library 46.7 (103636bytes), both dated Oct 19, 1999. I think they're on that page I linked.

There's also something weird with the workbench.library on your disk - it's too large. Try using 40.5 (71408bytes) from a 4000D ROM image. You can use Doobrey's RomSplit (http://www.doobreynet.co.uk/beta/index.html) tool to get it. If you copied over workbench.library from a 3.5 or 3.9 system, that could definitely be causing the crash.
Title: Re: 060 WB3.1 Install disk???
Post by: alexh on February 23, 2008, 12:05:03 AM
Preping you hard drives on a PC using WinUAE is much easier and faster.

Whip out the IDE drive and stuff it in any desktop PC.

You can usually pick up an adaptec PCI ultra-wide SCSI card for under £10
Title: Re: 060 WB3.1 Install disk???
Post by: amigadave on February 23, 2008, 12:33:53 AM
@MattH,

I should have thought of that myself, I got the workbench.library from my A1200 w/060 running OS3.9.

Quote

alexh wrote:
Preping you hard drives on a PC using WinUAE is much easier and faster.

Whip out the IDE drive and stuff it in any desktop PC.

You can usually pick up an adaptec PCI ultra-wide SCSI card for under £10


I was trying to use only SCSI HD's w/the A4000T's SCSI controller and two HD's on the CSPPC's SCSI controller.  I guess I can dig out an IDE drive and try to put it into the Dell I am typing on right now, but it only has SATA drives in it at the moment.  I am sure it has an IDE controller though, as that probably controls the DVD drives and Media Card reader.

I think I am going to take a break for a while as I think I am catching the flu (won't go into details, but I have been sitting on the ivory throne too often today). :-x
Title: Re: 060 WB3.1 Install disk???
Post by: Thomas on February 23, 2008, 01:05:02 PM

If you already have the ability to copy files off the OS 3.9 CD and your main goal is to get OS 3.9 onto your HDD, why don't you just

copy amigaos3.9:emergency-boot/#? hdd:
copy amigaos3.9:os-version3.9/workbench3.5/s/startup-sequence hdd:s

?

Or why don't you use your A1200 to create an OS 3.9 emergency disk and then use it to install OS 3.9 on your A4000 ?

Just copy the 68060 libs to the emergency disk and adjust devs/dosdrivers/emergency_cd to match your A4000's cd drive.

Why do you bother with WB 3.1 disks when OS 3.9 is your goal ?

Bye,
Thomas