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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: mr_yeahman on February 22, 2008, 04:44:12 PM

Title: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: mr_yeahman on February 22, 2008, 04:44:12 PM
Ive got a A600 with a missing intern diskdrive. I tried to plug in a classic PC-diskdrive, and well... not think it work, but the diskicon appear in workbench, it also try to read at boot. Nothing happend then I try a amiga-disk in it.. Any possibles to make it run, if I write a Amiga-image to a PCdisk in the pc?

I also got a amiga-extern diskdrive, it seems not to be workin at all, looked around in workbench ( the OS is on the harddrive ).

BTW, I found the a600 in the dumpster..
I also got a fully functional A500, but I will not take parts from that computer..

//yeahman

Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: AndyFC on February 22, 2008, 04:50:56 PM
As I understand it, a PC floppy drive will not work, unmodified in an Amiga, as there is some extra circuitry on an Amiga drive to allow it to do some clever things.

As for the icon appearing on workbench, that is interesting. I have never booted to WB without a floppy drive being physically attached, whether it has a disk in or not, so I don't know if the floppy icon is there whether a floppy drive is present or not.
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: alexh on February 22, 2008, 04:57:57 PM
Dont bother with a floppy drive.

Buy a 44-pin IDE to CF adapter and a CF card to use as a hard drive. You'd pick them both up very cheaply.

You can use your PC and WinUAE to install Workbench, WHDload, games etc. onto the CF card before putting into the A600.

If you dont want to cut your A600 case (so you can easily get the CF card in and out) consider ALSO getting a PCMCIA to CF adapter and a second smaller CF card for transferring data to and from the PC. You'll need the driver CFD and FAT95 program installed, both are free on Aminet.

If you REALLY want a disk drive, you can modify a Panasonic U257

http://www.carrott.org/amiga/floppy.html
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: monami on February 22, 2008, 05:22:21 PM
i use a pc hd disk drive as my main drive in my amiga. i bought an adaptor from eyetech years ago. it only lets you use it as 880k but works in every way. including clicking!  :-)
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: taunusand on February 22, 2008, 05:50:27 PM
You could buy this (http://www.vesalia.de/r0e_amiga_hardware_floppy_disk_drives.htm)
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: tokyoracer on February 22, 2008, 05:55:07 PM
Or just use an external drive, would that work?
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: yorgle on February 22, 2008, 06:04:49 PM
Actually, instead of cutting the case, can't the CF adapter just be mounted where the floppy drive used to be?  Then you could insert/remove the CF card through that existing slot...
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: taunusand on February 22, 2008, 06:14:55 PM
Try this cable hack :-)

Here (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=2181=13)
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: rkauer on February 22, 2008, 08:33:50 PM
 Or use this hack instead:link (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=2180).

 This way you don't ruin the Amiga floppy cable. And yes, this hack behaves like an original Amiga floppy in any circumstances.
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: taunusand on February 23, 2008, 11:37:08 AM
Quote

rkauer wrote:
 Or use this hack instead:link (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=2180).

 This way you don't ruin the Amiga floppy cable. And yes, this hack behaves like an original Amiga floppy in any circumstances.


You could "ruin" a peecee floppy cable, there are tons of thoose  :-D
With the cable hack you can change the drive any time you want, instead of having to modify another drive.
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: mr_yeahman on February 23, 2008, 06:14:38 PM
Huh, so it´s so easy to make the pcfloppy work on amiga600, cool..
I got tons of pcfloppy-drives, and even more cables.

I got a nice A500, that I gonna leave in orginalshape..
but the pretty poor lookin a600 gonna go for my modding, to learn, and improve the computer.
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: alexh on February 23, 2008, 07:44:49 PM
Not all drives will work will they? I thought that they span too fast.
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: Hodgkinson on February 23, 2008, 09:17:17 PM
*Oh*..., I would of pointed you to Ian Stedmans scanned mag article about converting PC floppy drives, but it seems to of been taken offline.

http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/Downloads/downloads.html

Doh. I figured this might happen some time.

Good job I spent 1/2 a day saving all the useful stuff, including pretty much the whole download page from his site ;-)

Let me know if anyone needs anything from there ;-)

Hodgkinson.
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: morcar on February 24, 2008, 12:05:20 AM
You could do the normal thing and get on to ebay and buy an internal drive .... i dont think they cost much.
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: mr_yeahman on February 24, 2008, 08:30:49 AM
Well, I looked at the threat about convert a pcdrive, dunno how much I belive it work, I hope, and I think it´s a pretty good chance too... worth to test...
I also intrested in other homemade-adapter/hack-stuff like power up my a600 with a PSU from a PC, and make a pc-mouse work on my amiga too.. on the cheapest possible way.
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: taunusand on February 24, 2008, 08:13:25 PM
Here (http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/Amiga/amiga_hacks/Amiga_Power_supplies/amiga_power_supplies.html) is a little psu guide.

You can use cocolino (http://www.elbox.com/products/cocolino.html) for mouse, actually you can use the scroll wheel :-)
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: mr_yeahman on February 25, 2008, 09:46:09 PM
Quote

taunusand wrote:
Here (http://www.ianstedman.co.uk/Amiga/amiga_hacks/Amiga_Power_supplies/amiga_power_supplies.html) is a little psu guide.

You can use cocolino (http://www.elbox.com/products/cocolino.html) for mouse, actually you can use the scroll wheel :-)


Any changes I can build one of these pc>amiga-mouse-adapter with some cables and old cranky PC-parts..
or is it a very advanced hightec-device I must buy.
Title: Re: About A600 and PC-diskdrive
Post by: taunusand on February 25, 2008, 10:12:25 PM
I don't know. I have ordered the cocolino and looks forward to use it, optical mouse  :-P

Try searching aminet.net :-)