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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: JKD on February 22, 2008, 12:00:27 AM
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OK, more closet finds....
I ran this in a RAmiga 7 slot zorro tower for years, I have:
486 board - It's an slc2/50Mhz (internally clock doubled)
Fastest ISA SVGA gfx board money could buy (at the time) Orchid/Fahrenheit Kelvin 64!!!
SB16 (or clone)..I found the CDROM...since it has it's own on-board I/F
I/O board (multiple ser/par etc.) - haven't located this yet!
ISA Network card - have two of these, will send both!
I recall disconnecting the fan on the GGate and using a larger 5V one powered by the main PSU but other than that it should work perfectly
Comes with original software disks but not sure I still have the manual :-/
Some pictures here:
http://homepage.mac.com/jkd_steve/PhotoAlbum45.html
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You have PM
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Replied :D
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Found the CD-ROM drive...it is one of those dedicated on-board pseudo-ATA type interfaces..
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Had about 3 enquiries on this before I even posted it FS...I guess interest died ? :-?
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JKD wrote:
I guess interest died ? :-?
Well, I'ld be interested, but as I just purchased an A2386, a XSurf-card and some other stuff, I am not really planning on paying big bucks. I know it's a pretty rare find and should run older DOS-programs rather nicely and therefor would be a nice addition to either my A2000 or A3000.
Any indication how much you want for it?
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Hi there I could be interested. What price and cost to ship to New Zealand via normal economy air mail
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I am trying to sell all cards together for $500...shipping down under for this stuff is probably $40.
Steve
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JKD wrote:
I am trying to sell all cards together for $500...shipping down under for this stuff is probably $40.
Yay! I wouldn't even be interested if it were half that price... :-o
I understand it's not a very common card, comes with some nice ISA-cards and Amigahardware seems to be getting some higher prices here and there, but no way I'm going to shell out this amnount of money for some hardware to run DOS on...
Big chance that's wat causes the lack of interest.
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JKD wrote:
I am trying to sell all cards together for $500...shipping down under for this stuff is probably $40.
Steve
Could buy a bunch of 486`s for that kinda cash :P Think I`ll stick to my PIII and DOSBOX for retro games :D
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Dazxy2001 wrote:
Could buy a bunch of 486`s for that kinda cash :P
A bunch? How about 100 fully loaded 486s including a nice 15 of 17 inch CRT for all of them? I wasn't even able to give away ten P166s for free two or three years ago.
Sorry, but $500 is way, wáy out of proportion for several bog standard ISA-cards and a nice Amigacard. I can get all the pc hardware for about $1 to $5, which would make the Golden Gate-card somewhere between $495 and $499. Excluding shipping. That's ridiculous, imo.
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A bunch? How about 100 fully loaded 486s including a nice 15 of 17 inch CRT for all of them? I wasn't even able to give away ten P166s for free two or three years ago.
Hmmm hook em all up and make a render farm hehe. Guess thats the prob with old stuff, no one wants it if it cant handle Vista etc... make nice unix firewalls though :-D
I sometimes wonder if people put such a high price on Amiga stuff because its either some mug will no doubt pay or its just greed, I could never justify the expense on old hardware, specially as theres always the chance of it dying soon after receiving it :/
So far Ive spent around £100 on my amiga`s since returning to the scene and have got a nice A500, A600 both freebies, A1200 Blizzard 68030 50mhz 32mb ram external CD drive, A1200 for spares, CDTV, 1084S monitor and a stack of floppies and CD`s.. cant be bad :D
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You're entitled to your opinion and erm...thanks...I think?
I don't know that anything you posted is actually relevant. The Amiga is a collectors/hobby scene and rare items are priced accordingly. If I was ripping people off, this would be on eBay fetching $1k. :D
I'm sure people really appreciate you telling them they shouldn't 'waste' their money...
People are *free* to make offers, heck it might even sell for $400 or whatever people offer...if the demand isn't there, the price will fall accordingly.
The $ is really week right now..for some people $100 = 50p or summat ;)
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@JKD,
Do you know if all Vortex 486slc Bridgeboards at 25mHz can be "internally clock doubled" to 50mHz? Or does it take a new crystal to accomplish? And do you think most, or all of them can handle such doubling and retain reliability in operation?
I have a 486slc 25mHz that I am about to put back into service to run a couple of old MSDOS programs/games, so I would like to speed it up as much as possible. I am also looking for my 386sx Vortex and Commodore bridgeboards so I can sell them if anyone is interested. But unlike you, I don't think they are worth the kind of money you are asking. Good luck getting $500 for all your cards together, you might find a few collectors that will be willing to pay that much, but the economy is not too good right now and as you said, the dollar is weak.
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amigadave wrote:
@JKD,
Do you know if all Vortex 486slc Bridgeboards at 25mHz can be "internally clock doubled" to 50mHz? Or does it take a new crystal to accomplish? And do you think most, or all of them can handle such doubling and retain reliability in operation?
The CPU part in question on my board is actually an slc2 so I don't know if an slc CPU provides that facility.
Sounds like you have a good board and I'm really not trying to be unreasonable on price, I've told everyone they can make me an offer :D
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JKD wrote:
You're entitled to your opinion and erm...thanks...I think?
I don't know that anything you posted is actually relevant. The Amiga is a collectors/hobby scene and rare items are priced accordingly. If I was ripping people off, this would be on eBay fetching $1k. :D
I'm sure people really appreciate you telling them they shouldn't 'waste' their money...
People are *free* to make offers, heck it might even sell for $400 or whatever people offer...if the demand isn't there, the price will fall accordingly.
The $ is really week right now..for some people $100 = 50p or summat ;)
Soz, wuz having a wee bit of a rant there lol, nowt personal :D Its a buyers and sellers market I guess, actually be interested to see how much it does go for in the end.... Guess I just been away from the Amiga scene too long, went and got all collectable in my absence. :-D
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I know someone who knows someone who might be interested. I'll let them know so that they can make an offer.
Not sure it's worth $500 to them but I'll let them know.
-Nyle
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amigadave wrote:
@JKD,
Do you know if all Vortex 486slc Bridgeboards at 25mHz can be "internally clock doubled" to 50mHz? Or does it take a new crystal to accomplish? And do you think most, or all of them can handle such doubling and retain reliability in operation?
look here
How to upgrade your GoldenGate486slc/25mhz to 486slc2/50mhz! (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=29397)
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Hi,
I offer $100 + shipping to UK, or stick it on eBay and I will probably bid. Btw... trash the ISA cards as far as I'm concerned - shippings those isa card is more then their actual value :-/
ta
Tom UK
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JKD wrote:
Fastest ISA SVGA gfx board money could buy Orchid/Fahrenheit Kelvin 64!!!
As a dedicated BridgeBoarder, not a Vortexer :), I have always wondered what is indeed the fastest ISA video card. Did you try any others?
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hmmmm
fastest ISA card... the fastest I have are two CL-5428 cards, one with 1MB and the other with 2MB VRAM...
but on my gg486/50 I use a CL-5420/1MB one... there is no speed gain because the ISA bus of the A4000/gg is maxed out with the 5420... I did some benchmarks and saw no improvement at all!
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keropi wrote:
I did some benchmarks and saw no improvement at all!
There is a BB hack page at:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~davem2/overclock/a2386.html
that claims the Diamond SpeedStar Pro is an ISA bus master and speeds up video by 2X. I've never seen that mentioned anywhere else. That card has a similar chipset to yours, so perhaps there is something to it - any CL-54XX maxxes out the bus.
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yes, the GG also has some isa speed options... maybe this is the case, any 54xx card just maxes out the bus...
when I used a 5420 or 5428 for the matter, a SB16 non-pnp AND a DB60XG wavetable midi add-on, in some games midi slowed down when lots of stuff happened... that is how I concluded the ISA bus chockes and use a plain 8bit SoundBlaster 2.0 ...
that slowdown does not occur on a real 386sx/20 ISA pc (whereas the gg was slc2/50mhz upgraded), with the same cards, with the same game. apparently the gg isa bus has less bandwidth...
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You know, from memory the Orchid Kelvin may well be based on a CL-54xx or a CL-45xx chip..but there's a big Orchid sticker over it...this is going back a long way (1994ish) but it has 64bit dual-ported VRAM on board, which was quite a feat for the day...of course none of that helps 16bit ISA transfer speed :D
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the 2MB CL-5428 I have is a SPEA V7-Mirage one... had a V7 sticker on the 5428, but it is long gone LOL
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By popular request...reduced price for quick sale!
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keropi wrote:
amigadave wrote:
@JKD,
Do you know if all Vortex 486slc Bridgeboards at 25mHz can be "internally clock doubled" to 50mHz? Or does it take a new crystal to accomplish? And do you think most, or all of them can handle such doubling and retain reliability in operation?
look here
How to upgrade your GoldenGate486slc/25mhz to 486slc2/50mhz! (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=29397)
Thanks, now tell me that you actually bought two of them and are going to give me a great deal on the extra one you have lying around. :lol:
I just took the last 15 minutes searching all over the Internet including eBay and can't find such chip new old stock or used for sale anywhere.
I think this may take a while to find. :-?
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@amigadave:
just contact the ebay seller I mention in the thread...
as a sidenote, the fastest ISA card I have found and bought is an STB CL-5429/1MB one... I just remembered it :-)
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Hi,
Is this card sold or not ?
Thank you
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This is still available! :D
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???
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So is this like a powerful PC card so you can run older DOS games?
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Depends if you can call a 486 clock doubled 25MHz mobile SLC processor on a 16bit ISA bus powerful?
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$350 for a GG 486 w/the 50mhz chip is a good bargain.
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I think so...but no-one has bit yet, so $300 for sale in the US. I reserve the right to charge a little more if it goes overseas.
FWIW If you don't know what this is, don't buy it. Strictly enthusiast only.
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up!!!
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What he said... :D
Price now $250+shipping...surely some collector wants it at that price?
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Hi.
I take it if you ship to norway and I can pay with paypal.
Please send a replay to buzzer73@hotmail.com
Buzz