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Title: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: Daniele on February 19, 2008, 05:00:31 PM
I got this error in a window and the CD-Rom is not recognized:

          Cache CDFS                        
   
      Cannot open "scsi.device" unit 2

          [ Abort ]                    


What I have done is:

Formatted the A1200 and installed with OS 3.1

Installed IdeFix Express

Created an Emergency Disk with the CD 0S 3.9

Installed the OS 3.9

Readed Amiga OS 3.9 Faq

Edited in Devs/Dosdrivers/CD0 and typed "scsi.device" instead of "atapi.device"

and putted SetPatch V44.16
           FastFileSystem V44.16

and these changes in s/startup-sequence

;Set SCSIUpdate 1
;If EXISTS C:IDEFix
;C:IDEFix
;Set SCSIUpdate 0
;EndIf
;If EXISTS SYS:Expansion/XSurfIDE
;Set SCSIUpdate 0
;EndIf
;If EXISTS SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/NOSCSIUPDATE
;Set SCSIUpdate 0
;EndIf
;If $SCSIUpdate EQ 1
;SetPatch NOROMUPDATE QUIET
;Else
;SetPatch NOROMUPDATE QUIET
;EndIf
;Unset SCSIUpdate

C:LoadIDE START QUIET

C:SetPatch SKIPROMUPDATES "scsi.device" QUIET


But I continue to have the error Cannot open "scsi.device" unit 2


Any Help Please I am going crazy !!! :madashell:
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: adolescent on February 19, 2008, 05:20:24 PM
Are you sure the unit number is correct?  Try using finddevice to see what unit number it's on.  Also check the master/slave settings on the drive.
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: Daniele on February 19, 2008, 05:44:41 PM
Setting such as Master or Slave are perfect.

Now I changede DEVICE=0 in Devs/DOSDrivers/CD0 text and
the error of the missing atapi.device disappear but
appears on the Workbench

           CD0:Uninitialized               !!!!


What can I do?

Thanks in advance



Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: arnljot on February 19, 2008, 06:06:43 PM
Quote

;If EXISTS C:IDEFix
;C:IDEFix
;Set SCSIUpdate 0
;EndIf


Why is this edited out? (I just want to know, I might get a similar setup)
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: Daniele on February 19, 2008, 06:15:03 PM
@arnljot

beacuse it's explained in OS 3.9 FAQ

But I don't know why I have now

          CD0:Uninitialized  !!!!  :madashell:
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: adolescent on February 19, 2008, 06:23:38 PM
IIRC, device 0 should be primary connector master (maybe your HD?).  Did finddevice show a CD-ROM anywhere?  
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: Daniele on February 19, 2008, 06:32:14 PM
@adolescent

Master and slave are OK both CD and HD

I don't know where is finddevice

and if I type info in the shell it says CD0 Not a Dos Disk

and from WorkBench I see CD0: Uninitialized  !!!!
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: arnljot on February 19, 2008, 06:40:49 PM
I find these FAQ items:
http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/installtips.html#21

http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/diskfileoperation.html#1

http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/diskfileoperation.html#3

I hopy you figure this one out. Because I'm going to buy an idefix :)
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: DoogUK on February 19, 2008, 06:42:29 PM
Easy one this...os3.9 sneaks another cdrom driver in.

got to devs/dos drivers folder and delete the amithlon folder and the amigaxl folder.
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: Daniele on February 19, 2008, 06:53:27 PM
@DoogUK

I using a real Amiga not Amithlon

@arnljot

I tried the Faq, don't work

I continue to have CD0:Uninitialized !!!!
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: DoogUK on February 19, 2008, 06:56:19 PM
Doesnt matter...os3.9 still puts that folder in there...try it and see.
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: A4000_Mad on February 19, 2008, 06:56:41 PM
Quote

Daniele wrote:

I don't know where is finddevice


FindDevice is inside the IDEfix97 drawer and is very useful.

You tick the box 'Scan All device Types' then click on a device type in the left window. Click 'Scan' and the devices and unit numbers will appear in the right window.

Hard drive as 'scsi.device' being found:-

(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/hard.png)

CDrom as 'squirrelscsi.device' being found:-

(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/FindDevice.png)
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: Daniele on February 19, 2008, 07:02:06 PM
@A4000_Mad

thanks for the advise but I'm looking any amigan with OS 3.9 and IdeFix to solve my problem.

Don't Know how to fix

            CD0:uninitialized

Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: DoogUK on February 19, 2008, 07:04:18 PM
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: Framiga on February 19, 2008, 07:17:56 PM
your not using IdeFIX software at all.

uncomment ALL the above posted idefix lines otherwise your 2nd channel will not work (and re-edit the CD0 dosdriver with atapi.device as well)

btw ... unit 2 is on the second channel

ah ... and install BB1 and BB2 as soon as possible

"and putted SetPatch V44.16"
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: Framiga on February 19, 2008, 07:28:09 PM
wait a moment ... going to dinner :-)

Edit- ok have you read what i posted? forget it! :-)

LoadIDe is ok ... only replace scsi.device with atapi.device in CD0 dosdriver



Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: Daniele on February 19, 2008, 08:19:25 PM
I have eaven tried to install IdeFix Express over OS 3.9 but it reaptes the error 'could not find atapi.cdrom on 1

What the heck is going on!
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: Framiga on February 19, 2008, 08:36:03 PM
atapi.device

anyway sorry but now i have Liverpool-Inter on the way! :-)



Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: A4000_Mad on February 19, 2008, 09:22:27 PM
Quote

Daniele wrote:

What the heck is going on!


That's what we're all wondering :-D

CD0:Uninitialized can simply mean that it is an unreadable CD. You get the same thing for a faulty floppy as you will know.

I'm not familiar with the Express gadget as I have old 4 way buffered IDE interfaces in my A1200 Towers. But from my experience you either have a driver using 'scsi.device' and L:CDfilesystem

OR

atapi.device and L:CacheCDFS


The screengrab below shows that I can get two icons for the same OS3.9 CD. I've click on each icon and selected 'Infornation' from the top of the Workbench screen. I had put two drivers called CD0 and CD2 into Workbench:Devs/DOSDrivers.



(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/CDdrivers.jpg)

My A4000 Desktop using OS3.9 has 2 IDE leads and has IDEfix97 running. The 1st lead has Unit 0 (Master hard drive) and unit 1 (Nothing attached). The 2nd IDE lead has Unit 2 (Master CDrom) and Unit 3 (Slave Zip drive)

Check you have the files 'IDEfix' and 'LoadIDE' in your C drawer of Workbench. These lines in your startup-sequence should *not* have semi colons in front of them or they will be deactivated:-

If exists C:IDEfix
C:IDEfix
End If

Check the jumpers on your devices and the IDE lead positions you've got them attached. Check the unit number your CDrom driver is set to. Do you want me to E-mail FindDevice to you?
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: Thomas on February 19, 2008, 09:28:31 PM
Quote

What I have done is:

Formatted the A1200 and installed with OS 3.1

Installed IdeFix Express

Created an Emergency Disk with the CD 0S 3.9


Now copy atapi.device from from OS3.1/devs to df0:devs.

Quote

Installed the OS 3.9


Now copy atapi.device from from df0:devs to OS3.9/devs.

Stop here. Do not edit anything. Do not read anything. (Actually you may read the FAQ, but you should not execute any tip of which you don't understand *why* they suggest it and what it does).

Your problem is that you use a 4-way adapter on your IDE bus and the FAQ tells you how to get rid of IDEfix if you *don't* use a 4-way adapter. OS 3.9 does not support 4-way adapters by itself. You *need* IDEfix (or part of it, namely atapi.device) to drive the adapter.

The unit number tells it all. A "normal" IDE bus only has two units: 0 = master and 1 = slave. Your CD drive is at unit 2, so you have a 4-way adapter which has four units: 0 = primary master, 1 = primary slave, 2 = secondary master, 3 = secondary slave. But units 2 and 3 are only accessible through the IDEfix software, either atapi.device or scsi.device patched by IDEfix or LoadIDE.

Be,
Thomas
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: Daniele on February 19, 2008, 10:24:36 PM
I followed the advices of Thomas, A4000_mad and Framiga

I installed IdeFix over OS 3.9 too

But what I have is black screen and nothing booting.

If I disconnect the CD-Roms appears

Cannot open "atapi.device" unit 2

Please help me my head is burning
 :madashell:
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: karel on February 19, 2008, 11:46:05 PM
i have atapi.device 120.5
idefix 119.17
no error here.
os3.9 +b1+b2
A1200=mediator=voodo-SB=netcard 10/100-
HD 40gig and 1 cdroms+CD-writer.
48mb.
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: Daniele on February 20, 2008, 12:48:24 AM
Problem solved!

 :-D
Title: Re: OS 3.9 + IdeFix CD rom Problem
Post by: Framiga on February 20, 2008, 12:54:23 PM
curious, curious! ... how? :-)