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Title: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: easy_john on February 14, 2008, 02:45:35 PM
Whether who knows, is remained in 2008 on the Earth a place where I can repair Blizzard PPC accelerator?

I have a Blizzard PPC 240/60/scsi, which has simply refuse to start one day. It does not react neither to 2 keys of a mouse, nor on "2" or "Esc". Only the black screen (and looks like continuous reset every 5-10 second).
Board looks ok, no burning tracks, all chip about normal work temperature.
I clean trapdoor slot, add power to board, but it not helps.
:(

PS. Sorry for my English.
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: Gavilan on February 14, 2008, 03:23:02 PM
My friend...try Amiga Center France (http://www.amigacenter.com/Homer.html)

The BEST place to repair PPC cards...for sure!!

:)

Greetings

Sebastian
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: Kin-Hell on February 14, 2008, 05:02:38 PM
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easy_john wrote:
Whether who knows, is remained in 2008 on the Earth a place where I can repair Blizzard PPC accelerator?

I have a Blizzard PPC 240/60/scsi, which has simply refuse to start one day. It does not react neither to 2 keys of a mouse, nor on "2" or "Esc". Only the black screen (and looks like continuous reset every 5-10 second).
Board looks ok, no burning tracks, all chip about normal work temperature.
I clean trapdoor slot, add power to board, but it not helps.
:(
PS. Sorry for my English.


If you have a Monitor in the Amigas RGB port, Have you just tried tunrning the Monitor on before you turn on the Amiga?
I too get just a black screen with the Amiga Crashing over & over with the Amigas Power LED flashing. Turn everything off, power monitor on, then the power on the Amiga & she boots fine.
Just a thought for you. I thought I too had a Dead Amiga when I saw this for the first time.
With a 5-10 second delay on the Reset, perhaps this isnt your problem. :-?
Best of luck.  :-)  
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: easy_john on February 14, 2008, 06:25:42 PM
I try with monitor on bvision, and witout bvizion, with rgb moniir, and with composite on tv - result is always same.
I try with different a1200 mainboard - the same.
Yes Power LED flashing every 5-10 seconds.
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: Kin-Hell on February 14, 2008, 07:31:18 PM
What if you take out the BVision & the PPC card?
Can you try another PSU?
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: easy_john on February 14, 2008, 08:00:57 PM
sorry, dont andestand what do you mean "take out"
yes, i try start with another two PSU, and on another motherboard (all MB work fine as single and with Blizzard 1230/IV).
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: Plaz on February 14, 2008, 10:14:42 PM
"take out" >  извлекайте  


мой друг babelfish.altavista.com  :-)


Plaz
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: easy_john on February 14, 2008, 10:18:25 PM
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Plaz wrote:
"take out" >  извлекайте  
мой друг babelfish.altavista.com  :-)
Plaz

спасибо, конечно. но
1.я ленив
2. к тому же часто читаю/пишу с пда. да и вообще предпочитаю translate.ru :)
but this is offtopic... :)
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: Plaz on February 14, 2008, 10:33:32 PM
вы говорите нам A1200 работает когда PPC извлекается?

1. Лениво? Нет. Вы выучили количество английской языка.
2. Да, я понимаю причину.  :-) вы оплачиваете для translate.ru?

Plaz

Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: easy_john on February 14, 2008, 10:57:41 PM
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Plaz wrote:
вы говорите нам A1200 работает когда PPC извлекается?

yes. i have checked up on two working devices.

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1. Лениво? Нет. Вы выучили количество английской языка.

my god! i am at a loss to understand sense of this phrase.

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2. Да, я понимаю причину.  :-) вы оплачиваете для translate.ru?

this phrase the same is complex for understanding.
if it is a question of payment translate.ru translates small phrases free of charge, besides additional dictionaries are accessible to the registered users.
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: Plaz on February 14, 2008, 11:39:01 PM
After your tests, it does appear your PPC card needs repair.  Amiga Center (http://www.amigacenter.com/Homer.html) would be your best hope.


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i am at a loss to understand sense of this phrase.


Sorry. Maybe...
вы не ленивы если вы изучаете английскую язык

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if it is a question of payment translate.ru translates small phrases free of charge


Yes, that is the answer to my question.

Plaz



Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: Argus on February 15, 2008, 10:13:12 AM
@easy john

Privyet!

What Plaz was trying to explain (I think):

If your A1200 works without the Blizzard installed

and

with the Blizzard you get a black screen it's probably the cpu (68060) contacts on the card.  The 68060 probably has a cold solder contact that needs resoldering.  The problem may not even be visible as it could be under the 68060 itself.

If you're not good at de-soldering such a big chip and resoldering it; send it to Amiga Centre in France (Jean Jacques Boulet can do it for you).

ydachi vam

paka
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: easy_john on February 15, 2008, 11:16:20 AM
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Argus wrote:
What Plaz was trying to explain (I think):
If your A1200 works without the Blizzard installed

yes.

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and
with the Blizzard you get a black screen it's probably the cpu (68060) contacts on the card.  The 68060 probably has a cold solder contact that needs resoldering.  The problem may not even be visible as it could be under the 68060 itself.
If you're not good at de-soldering such a big chip and resoldering it; send it to Amiga Centre in France (Jean Jacques Boulet can do it for you).

yesterday I have written e-mail in "Amiga Centre in France", but still have no answer.

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ydachi vam

thanks

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paka

poka. :)
сan be sounds as "paka", but it is written "poka". :)
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: easy_john on February 15, 2008, 11:25:07 AM
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Sorry. Maybe...
вы не ленивы если вы изучаете английскую язык

almost superb.
except for "английск_ую_". it can be "английскую речь" or "английский язык", but not "английскую язык".
it gives out machine translation, the person can admit a typing error, but not mix declension.
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: Plaz on February 15, 2008, 12:10:29 PM
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What Plaz was trying to explain (I think):


Yes. I was trying to make him feel welcome by using Russian, instead I think I insulted his sister. :-P

Plaz
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: easy_john on February 15, 2008, 12:44:33 PM
ROTFL! :)
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: Kin-Hell on February 15, 2008, 10:54:13 PM
:horse: LOLz!!  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: MadMonkey on February 16, 2008, 12:05:33 AM
Best of luck with Amiga Centre.

I've been emailing them since December and still no reply.

He is apparently a wizard with hardware. I just wish he would answer emails.
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: A6000 on February 16, 2008, 12:54:55 AM
As it is apparently the only service centre in the world, he must be too busy to answer Emails :lol:
OH, just remembered, Doomy does repairs, doesn't he?
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: easy_john on May 16, 2008, 09:06:20 PM
Sad day of my life.
AmigaCenter write, that restore a card is impossible.

Whether there Are still the people, capable to try to repair Blizzard PPC?

Whether It is possible to trust Amigacenter? Probably, what the board works also it wishes to leave it to itself?
Sorry, but i realy sad..

I do not know, whether I can buy now such accelerator, ebay price is too high for me...
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: Boot_WB on May 16, 2008, 09:43:31 PM
Sorry to hear about your dead Blizzard PPC :-(

Did Jean-Jacques (Amigacentre) give you any details of the tests he performed? Was he able to identify which component was causing the problems?

Regards



Rich
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: Plaz on May 17, 2008, 12:26:45 AM
Was AmigaCenter able to explain the problem. Does he know what is broken on the accelerator?

Plaz
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: easy_john on May 17, 2008, 08:39:35 AM
No.
- Spent half a day on your board with no results.
- You find something, that not work? May be just buy 68060 and try to replace it?
- I do not think the 060 dead. I have not replace it cause of consuming time job.
- There are still any opportunities it to repair?
- Sorry but no way.

And at last, he say, that he can buy my board for 40eur or send it back for 60... a little strange. I send it to him for about 7 eur..
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: Argus on May 19, 2008, 11:09:38 AM
Привет!

Я еще думаю у тебя есть проблем с 68060.  Тебе надо очень
хорошо смотреть у процессора 68060 для трейшена с содерем.

Удачы тебе.

Пока

Джейсон
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: BuzzBrain on May 19, 2008, 11:58:59 AM
Hi.

sorry for your lose.


[color=ff0000]"- I do not think the 060 dead. I have not replace it cause of consuming time job."[/color]

[color=0000ff]Hmm?? this take you about 5 mins too do.[/color]


but, I asume that he know's that this is not the problem for this board.

Anywas, I'm not trolling aboute france repair senter, but he do charge a lot for jobs. and is hard too get any good answare from him, about what was wrong with the cards etc.

I know one who send him a cyberstorm ppc card.
He get his card fixed for 200 euro.. tok him only few hours to fix it.. and returned it.. But he did not answar about what was wrong with board...

As I said. I'm not trolling, just point this out.
I even have a cyberstorm mk II who have faulty ram board and some a4k motherboard I want to send him. (hope he not black list me now)

But I hope he can give me a good answare, when I ask for some tecnical questions :) as I'm intrested.

Sorry for bad english

Buzz
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: Bamiga2002 on May 19, 2008, 01:50:18 PM
Now Acube seems to be doing BPPC repairs (http://www.acube-systems.biz/eng/news.php?id=28) too.

But they only replace the PPC-part, not 68k.
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: Framiga on May 19, 2008, 02:08:06 PM
""- I do not think the 060 dead. I have not replace it cause of consuming time job."

Hmm?? this take you about 5 mins too do."

desoldering a 060 from a BPPC takes what?

Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: _ThEcRoW on May 19, 2008, 03:34:16 PM
Are you saying that it will only return you YOUR board paying 60 eur?!?!?
Someone can explain that?
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: AJCopland on May 19, 2008, 04:02:52 PM
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_ThEcRoW wrote:
Are you saying that it will only return you YOUR board paying 60 eur?!?!?
Someone can explain that?


I'd assume that he's saying: "I've spent time investigating the fault with your board, my times costs money, in this case Eur60". Now if you sell him the board for Eur40 he'll probably harvest the parts he believes are salvagable for repairing other peoples boards sent to him in the future.

Just a guess though.

Best of the OP to email him and find out if it's worth retrieving the board and sending it to ACube.

Andy
Title: Re: Looking for Blizzard PPC repair
Post by: BuzzBrain on May 19, 2008, 04:11:07 PM
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Framiga wrote:
""- I do not think the 060 dead. I have not replace it cause of consuming time job."

Hmm?? this take you about 5 mins too do."

desoldering a 060 from a BPPC takes what?



I belive it was CSPPC, and they have socket 060?
I'm sorry if that is wrong.

Buzz