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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: leirbag28 on February 11, 2008, 07:29:31 PM

Title: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: leirbag28 on February 11, 2008, 07:29:31 PM

Check out this device on ebay..it turns SCART into COMPONENT!  and since they sell Amiga RGB to SCART cables, one can just plug the SCART in one end and COMPONENT comes out the other :-)

What do you guys think?:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130169697757


And here is a device that may enable one to turn Amigas RGB output into S-Video and Composite.............this stuff looks cool...........anyone know if it will work?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150211830091&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123

Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: Flashlab on February 11, 2008, 07:48:02 PM
I thought Amiga video is already RGB (component). So there wouldn't be a need to use SCART and then Component but you could just make one cable that does in one go.

S-Video is another matter though.
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: humppa on February 11, 2008, 08:01:13 PM
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I thought Amiga video is already RGB (component). So there wouldn't be a need to use SCART and then Component but you could just make one cable that does in one go.


No. You need to convert it.

Component is YPbPr, not RGB. YPbPr is converted from the RGB video signal by splitting it into three components, Y, Pr and Pb.
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: humppa on February 11, 2008, 08:02:51 PM
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And here is a device that may enable one to turn Amigas RGB output into S-Video and Composite.............this stuff looks cool...........anyone know if it will work?


Yeah, it will work by turning a lovely RGB-signal into a mediocre S-Video or a crappy Composite-signal.
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: Flashlab on February 11, 2008, 08:03:26 PM
Whoops! My bad!
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: orange on February 11, 2008, 09:04:00 PM
@Flashlab
well actually, you are right RGB is one type of component video (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Component_video)
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: leirbag28 on February 11, 2008, 10:12:52 PM
@######

 Well how else do you expect to record Amiga's Output to Video?

S-Video is actually pretty darn good looking..........almost looks as good as RGB on a good S-Video TV.

A1200's Composite output is professional crap... so one would desire a better Composite output or the better S-Video.


You said that this device will work by the way......how do you know it will?  Im asking because it looks like you have to attach the proper RGB signals to the board first........and who knows if they are Digital or Analog?

I would die to get this board if it works.
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: Iggy_Drougge on February 12, 2008, 12:05:52 AM
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leirbag28 wrote:
Well how else do you expect to record Amiga's Output to Video?


My hard disk recorder takes RGB on its SCART connectors. ;-)

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You said that this device will work by the way......how do you know it will?  Im asking because it looks like you have to attach the proper RGB signals to the board first........and who knows if they are Digital or Analog?

The video connector on the back of all Amigas outputs analogue RGB, as well as digital RGB in 16 colours. To get digital RGB in full colour, you need to wire yourself into the video chip, or use the video slot on big box Amigas.
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: Krusher on February 12, 2008, 12:23:04 AM
PAL countries have the RGB inputs on most of the equipment. NTSC countries have composite bnc things.
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: Braddo on February 12, 2008, 01:07:15 AM
I use the following RGB to Component converter for my Amigas.

http://www.hometheatre.net.au/cyu2100.htm

It does a brilliant job. Looks even better on the TV than a Commodore monitor.
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: tiffers on February 12, 2008, 03:30:05 AM
Looks like the same unit, but re-branded.
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: leirbag28 on February 12, 2008, 06:29:02 PM
@Braddo

Looks like the same unit, just rebranded

but anyway.......why do you guys keep these things a secret?  we got to let ALL Amigans know about these cool devices so that they too can REPRESENT in the world, that our Amigas are still hanging on.

Dang, now I have got to get me one of these.

AmigaKit! why dont you buy a few of these and test them! then you can sell it to us. See if they work with the RGB to SCART cables you got.

Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: Damion on February 12, 2008, 06:46:59 PM
It's cool (I tried this already last year with a JROK), but try to find an LCDTV over here that will display things like PAL (an absolute necessity if you watch demos) and/or laced screens correctly, and isn't TN on top of it. I've shelled out for two so far with no luck. There are a few shops that specialize in "multi system" LCDTVs, but you'll have no idea what you're getting (or if it will work) until you shell out the $$$ and wait for it.

There were a smallish number of ED/HDTV CRTs, Sony made some killer ones that handle PAL and will display laced screens perfect, but they're huge... (guess you could sit 20 feet back, LOL).

 
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: Flashlab on February 12, 2008, 07:16:57 PM
What are you talking about; keeping secrets and so on? With some research you can find out a lot yourself. It's not that this converter is the holy grail of Amiga computing... I find it expensive for example.

Also why would I need to show people my classic Amiga? To get them to enjoy the same hobby? It's not that I want to keep it all to myself but people should decide for themselves what hobbies they have (and yes Amigas are hobby machines IMHO). We are not here to convert other people into Amiga users; it's not a religion; at least not for me.
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: Braddo on February 13, 2008, 12:23:32 AM
Expensive? I paid only $110AUD. It is a small price to pay to have RGB SCART.

I very highly recommend this converter especially for people using the dreaded A520 modulator.
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: orange on February 13, 2008, 12:21:10 PM
@-D-
I thought that the TV doesn't have to be PAL if it has component inputs, isn't that important only for svideo/composite/RF(brr..)?
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: jj on February 13, 2008, 12:25:45 PM
My telly does s-video and  RGB through scart.

Have to agree a S-video signal is pretty good, not too far off RGB.

Both are a million times better than composite
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: leirbag28 on February 15, 2008, 06:20:13 PM
@FlashLab

I think one can say that Amiga is like a religion, and I for one want to create very very equipped Amiga enthusiasts, to show the world or anyone who asks us, why we use Amigas, and represent it in a proper way.

Too many people make Amigas look pathetic. Amiga doesnt desrve this. I use Amigas because I personally know how good they are, and it really is true that these machines are just superb.

Its sad when Someone asks, "Oh yeah, can Amiga use USB or Compact Flash?"  and some Amiga users are not aware that you can! easily.

there is not alot of good or proper advertising in the Amiga community...........Exactly what killed the Amiga and Commodore.
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: Damion on February 15, 2008, 07:05:59 PM
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orange wrote:
@-D-
I thought that the TV doesn't have to be PAL if it has component inputs, isn't that important only for svideo/composite/RF(brr..)?



I thought the same thing, but unfortunately not... 2 LCDs and one CRT I've tried all displayed the same symptoms (garbled picture, lines missing, or rolling screen) regardless of the input being used.



Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: Flashlab on February 15, 2008, 07:06:26 PM
And what would you accomplish? People buying Amigas? It's pointless as you can't buy any new classic hardware except for Minimig which is nice but it's just an A500 suitable for demos and games and nothing more.

Sure, Amigas are nice and I enjoy mine but the crusade is long over; for more than a decade already. Face it.
Title: Re: Easy COMPONENT for A1200 !!!! and maybe S-Video
Post by: leirbag28 on February 19, 2008, 06:29:46 PM
@FlashLab

 I don't know what it will accomplish, but I like to give people a good and proper defense for the reason why I use Amigas, so that they don't go away with a false interpretation of me for one, that I am pathetic because I use an old Computer.  And two because I believe the Amiga has to be represented properly, even for future reference of it. Too many people were told it was just a games machine.