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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: SamOS39 on February 11, 2008, 02:53:13 PM

Title: What ISA cards work with AMIGAs?
Post by: SamOS39 on February 11, 2008, 02:53:13 PM
As part of my A500T project im starting work on schematics for building an expansion board with zorro2 slots.
Looking at pictures around the web etc.. i can see that ISA bus boards look fairly simple.

But is it worth having ISA slots?

What ISA cards (graphics, sound, ethernet .. etc) work with the amiga?

cheers
Samm.
Title: Re: What ISA cards work with AMIGAs?
Post by: McVenco on February 11, 2008, 02:58:53 PM
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SamOS39 wrote:

What ISA cards (graphics, sound, ethernet .. etc) work with the amiga?


None. The ISA slots can only be accessed and used by a bridgeboard.
Title: Re: What ISA cards work with AMIGAs?
Post by: DaBest on February 11, 2008, 03:04:34 PM
ISA card are probably all in the scrap metal bins. :-D
Title: Re: What ISA cards work with AMIGAs?
Post by: Braddo on February 11, 2008, 03:09:08 PM
 
Title: Re: What ISA cards work with AMIGAs?
Post by: SamOS39 on February 11, 2008, 03:12:03 PM
so the isa slots are only used with emulator cards etc..?
Title: Re: What ISA cards work with AMIGAs?
Post by: McVenco on February 11, 2008, 03:16:04 PM
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DaBest wrote:
ISA card are probably all in the scrap metal bins. :-D


I've got a few ISA network cards (new in box) if someone's interested :-)

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SamOS39 wrote:
so the isa slots are only used with emulator cards etc..?


Correct.
Title: Re: What ISA cards work with AMIGAs?
Post by: SamOS39 on February 11, 2008, 03:55:01 PM
that sucks, ISA cards are cheaper than zorro cards  :-(
Title: Re: What ISA cards work with AMIGAs?
Post by: Kronos on February 11, 2008, 04:08:35 PM
ISA-cards CAN be used with Amiga:

- there is ateo-bus which is just ISA with a different name
- there were the Domino and Omnibus GFX-cards, which were really just adapters for ISA-ET4000-VGA cards.
- there still is the XSurf doing the same trick for ethernet

- if you have an C=-bridgeboard some ISA-cards can be made useable for the Amiga-side

And offcourse not to forget:
- the famous DIY OMTI-Adapters, featuring an 8Bit-slot for the use with old HD-controllers   :roll:

Maybe more in Aminet/hard/....
Title: Re: What ISA cards work with AMIGAs?
Post by: JimS on February 11, 2008, 04:15:04 PM
Actually, there was a card called the "Golden Gate II" which mapped the ISA cards into the Zorro memory space. It's a bit confusing because the was also a 3rd-party bridgeboard called the Goldengate. (people must really like that SF bridge!)

Anyway, the GGII did allow ISA cards to be used directly by the Amiga side. If i recall, there was support for some net cards, sound cards, and serial/parallel cards. No VGA cards though.

Going waaaay back, there was a thing for the 1000 called "Bill's Board" that gave it Zorro & ISA slots. I remember seeing one of those demoed at a user group meeting. Talk about a monster hack....



Title: Re: What ISA cards work with AMIGAs?
Post by: Fransexy_ on February 11, 2008, 04:21:43 PM
there was the goldengate 2 card that allow the use of certain ISA cards directly by the Amiga

(http://www.amiga-hardware.com/display_photos/gg2_small.jpg)



http://www.amiga-hardware.com/showhardware.cgi?HARDID=344
Title: Re: What ISA cards work with AMIGAs?
Post by: Robert17 on February 11, 2008, 04:59:29 PM
The Golden Gate 2 board does indeed let you use some ISA cards, as I've got one in an A2000, I think they are quite rare though?

I think you can use 8bit and 16bit NICs that are NE1000/NE2000 compatible, also some ISA Parallel and serial cards work, also maybe some old IDE cards work, but I'm not sure.

I know they planned a soundcard driver but it never came out, and unfortunately there's no VGA drivers either.

Robert
Title: Re: What ISA cards work with AMIGAs?
Post by: Trev on February 11, 2008, 05:21:50 PM
There's also EtherBridge on Aminet which is a SANA-II device that communicates with an MS-DOS-based host application and any PCTCP packet driver using a bridgeboard.
Title: Re: What ISA cards work with AMIGAs?
Post by: Flashlab on February 11, 2008, 05:42:46 PM
Bottom line you can't use the ISA slots without extra hardware that enables it.