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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: TjLaZer on February 11, 2008, 08:42:40 AM
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Not sure if any of you have seen this, it's from Dec 10th at the 25th Anniversary Celebration of the Commodore 64 in Mountain View, CA with Jack Tramiel! Amiga is mentioned quite a few times too... Also find out how the name commodore was picked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBvbsPNBIyk
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Yeah, I watched that before, go Jack! He was very cool on the floor but I gotta say that Woz really irritated me ... grrr.
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I found the written interview here:
http://www.news.com/The-man-behind-the-Commodore-64/2008-1042_3-6222406.html?tag=item
And some other sightings:
http://www.news.com/8301-13772_3-9832182-52.html?tag=bl
http://www.news.com/8301-13772_3-9832092-52.html?tag=bl
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hmmmmmmmmmm
No sound grrrrrrrrrrrrr
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STUUUUUUUPID...... :crazy: :hammer:
Turning the switch to ON for sound makes the speakers work better :laughing:
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Thanks for posting. I enjoyed listening to this interview.
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What a coincidence, I found another one:
http://www.geekentertainment.tv/2007/12/24/commodore-64-turns-25/
Granted, the reporter may not be the best out there, but the guy has lost it. He keeps on babbling about nonsense!
I loved the guy from IBM though, pretty cool and completely on his full senses!
Woz is a bit strange though :P Still, funny!
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Woz was irritating. He knows Commodore owned them back then.... The Apple II sucked! It was a sick joke. I loved my Commodore 64!
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A bit old of a thread, but I was at the event and I wanted to say that indeed Woz was a bit annoying with his defensiveness. I think that unfortunately after his airplane accident he has suffered. His personal website is interesting, but so much of it is full of defensiveness and "I invented this" and "I did that", not that he didn't do those things and he wasn't a genius, but nobody says that he didn't, so there's really no reason to put like that, or, he wasn't the only one. Anyhow, if you read it, you might understand what I'm trying to say. Same behaviour (but much more toned down was in the event).
As for Jack... well, you figure it out.
Adam Chowaniac and William, the father of the PC, those two were 100% on the ball, but unfortunately didn't get much air-time.
You guys might be interested in my question to William: "why go with Intel 8086 instead of Motorola 68000", and his ensuing answer. I wrote about it in this thread:
http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=33237
There's also a high-res video here:
http://www.computerhistory.org/events/index.php?id=1193702785
Cheers
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Back in the 80's, there was an article published called "The Design Case History of the Commodore 64" and it was published in the magazine section of the newspaper. I may still have a copy of it somewhere.
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That would be an interesting reading, if you can find it.
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It is copyrighted and I wouldn't have permission to post it/upload it even though I saw copies of it on various Bulletin Boards. It is possible that some of the C-64 user groups / BBS's might still have a copy.
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:roll:
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What bugged me was that this was a C-64 anniversary. But WOZ undermines the spirit of the event and achievements of Commodore and the success of the C=64 with statements like" At apple we were trying to build a company that would be around 20 years later, unlike commodore..." (Im paraphrasing)
Then he says... When you look at Apple II owners many ofthem have become CEO's of major companies, Can the same be said about C=64 onwers?" (again paraphrasing)
Dude, get off the high horse. The C=64 was legendary, deal with it.
Was cool to hear him talk about the AppleIIgs, that was a nice machine, great design. (Cough...Amiga wannabe...Cough)
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"We made machines for the masses, they (Apple) made machines for the classes."
-- Jack Tramiel 2007
:lol:
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I saw Woz embarassing himself on a week of the Screen Savers doing trivia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Screen_Savers
"Wozniak ended his full time employment with Apple for good on February 6, 1987, twelve years after setting up the company. However he still remains an employee (and receives a paycheck)[5][2] and a shareholder.[6] He also maintains connections with Steve Jobs."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Wozniak
According to Wikipedia he doesn't have full employment from Apple but receives a paycheck so you can make what you want out of that but I think the technology moved beyond his involvement if you will.
Go and price an Apple II, II+ or IIe on Ebay and you can get one for about $40 dollars and it isn't quite competitive with used Amiga products.
The only reason Apple is in business is because they charged exorbitant prices for an image and in the end they gave up because their processor couldn't compete with Intel so that is why Apple isn't using their own microprocessor anymore. Apple couldn't compete and if it wasn't for their Ipod and Itunes then they probably would be bankrupt.
Definition for exhorbitant: greatly exceeding bounds of reason or moderation; "exorbitant rent"; "extortionate prices"; "spends an outrageous amount on entertainment
- wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
Woz got the technology from Chuck Peddle from MOS technology and Jack Tramiel was in business longer than Woz and Jack made different computers at Atari. What did Woz do?