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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: CLS2086 on February 06, 2008, 06:50:56 PM
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After the nigerian scam, we've got the amiga scam...
Why do I say that ?
Let me explain :
I was looking on this auction and put a small bet on it :
Bvision PPC (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=180211705644&ssPageName=STRK:MEBI:IT&ih=018)
As you can see, the auction ended and i didn't win.
But I received many emails like this one asking me about an offer...
From: Mr Bmb (no-reply@wisdom.propagation.net) / Reply-to: bmb04@live.com
Hi,
I am the seller of this item : BlizzardVision PPC graphics card Amiga 1200 Bvision
Item number: 180211705644
Tell me if you want to buy it right now.Make me a good offer and reply this email !!!
Thank you
From: mihaela_radu (adreysyd@gmail.com) / Reply-to: adreysyd@gmail.com
Dear cls2086,
I have for sale: Item Number: 180211705644
My price is negociable.
If you are interested just give me a fast reply on this email address and you will find all the info that you want.
Thank You For your Time
From: Mr Syre (eBay@netknow.propagation.net) / Reply-to: syre70@gmail.com
Hi,
I am the seller of this item : BlizzardVision PPC graphics card Amiga 1200 Bvision
Item number: 180211705644
Tell me if you want to buy it right now.Make me a good offer and reply this email !!!
Thank you
From: James Cousin (j_cousin@yahoo.com) / Reply-to: j_cousin@yahoo.com
Hello Dear Buyer (cls2086) ,
You expressed interest in item #180211705644 however the auction has ended with another member as the high bidder.I will make this Second Chance Offer because the winning bidder was unable to complete the transaction. If you are still interesed to buy it , please let me know your best price, a resonable price. The transaction will go strictly according to eBay's RULES and POLICY and will be supervised by eBay Trust & Safety Department. Contact me as soon as possible for more details about closing the transaction !
Waiting for your answer!
Best regards!
PS: For you can see the auction again, please click on the item number .
(In this one the link is good..).
But ...
The funiest part is ...
:lol: terrible
I received these Email on a box that is not attached at all to my ebay account... :hammer: :roflmao: :laughing: :bow: :pancake:
So to which Ebay unit should i report these ?
Month earlier I got only 1 similar email about Sony EV-9000 written in english for a product sold in france which a french text...
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Now if you could get the GPS coordinates of these scumbags ... :destroy:
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you have to be very careful these days, internet is full of scumbags and they can do just about anything to get their hands of your paypal account or creditcard number. :madashell:
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eBay won't care.
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moto
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I'm being a litle dense here, can you explain what happened. I will be bidding on accelerators for my 1200 in the near future :(
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Easy, scumbags look at people who spend large amounts of money on collectable items, and figure they're greedy speculators and tempt them with "rare" equipment at low low prices, just not within the usual ebay paramaters.
If you bid the normal way, there should be no problem.
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the real "seller" write me on my normal "ebay" mail box :
I am not sure which card/auction you are referring to, but I definitely did not send out any second chance offers to anyone, for any of my auctions. I would suspect that those most likely are some sort of phishing scams that ultimately want access your paypal account (just a guess). I've been receiving the same sort of phishing e-mails, but as a seller, encouraging me to log in to my "ebay" or "paypal" account so that I could then screw myself over and give away my login and password to the scammer, and then they run away with my money. Be extra careful my friend, as these scammers seem to be targeting eBay these days. Regards, stillthehardest
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one reason why i gove ebay a wide berth now.
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Dealing on eBay really isn't that hard, OR dangerous - IF you only deal with the online auctions and deal deal with people with a good feedback ratings.
I started both buying and selling on eBay about eight months ago - and (knock on wood) I haven't had one single problem. Another rule is to use Paypal exclusively (it may be pricey, but its safe).
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This caught my eye as I'm suffering from an apparent fraudulent payment at the moment!
I've been buying and selling on eBay for about 4 years and on and off get scammers and con artists trying it on, but have mostly been ok. I have only ever been seriously stung as a seller.
Once by selling a copy of Moonstone to a chap in Germany, who claimed never to have received it, but then ending up selling the exact item a fortnight later (and utterly unable to account for as to where this item had 'magically' appeared from fobbing me off with some utterly unrelated purchase from Australia) I actually felt like paying the cheeky fella a visit. PayPal and eBay left me in the lurch over that and I had to receive compensation via the Royal Mail!
Lesson Learnt, or so I thought.
Today, I dispatched a low end (Pentium I 40mb RAM 800MB HDD) Laptop to a guy in Essex, good feedback rating, confirmed address, PayPal Payment, all good indicators. This very afternoon PayPal contact me saying they're investigating the transaction and not to dispatch the Item! Too late sunshine! I pride myself on good customer service and have always dispatched items as soon as they are paid for.
TBH if it was some all singing all dancing wonder Laptop and I was flogging it to a guy in Nigeria, then I would actually kick myself in the head for that, but this little thing? What's the point?
It sounds like somebody has fraudulently used a legitimate buyers account to scam me, however, I'm hopeful that I'll get my money back as I am fully covered by PayPal's seller protection, but I'm not going to bet the farm on that.
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Yeah,
this happens alot, a friend of mine got the same kind of email to an auction, the silly thing is that he was the seller of the item not a bidder, was kind of amusing.
It seems to me that they just look at the auctions that have alot of bidders on it, silly thing is, "they" say that the high bidder like didn't pay or stuff like that, normally the email turns up like 5mins to and hour after the auction finishes... o_O?
You also normally have more luck getting your credit card company or bank to get you the money back since, unlike paypal they actually care, and have a bit more weight behind them.
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@CLS2086
Sounds like he's the seller or has contacts with him otherwise how did he got your email in the 1st place ? Did you exchange any emails with the seller before even if regarding this item ?
@r0jaws
Just curious, did you ship to his paypal adress ? If so that means he hijacked some user's Paypal account at the same time.
One place I've found to be dangerous is obviously cybercafes, beware of using money related services on them!
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Wtf??? This is so retarded. I had no idea scammers had reached such a low point!
Well, now it would be funny to send emails to all those a$$hole$ and ask them detailed technical questions about the BVision. Just to see how far they would get.
And also how did they find your email address?
And also... $305 for a BVision... that's insane!! LOL, I am not selling anything anymore from this point on.
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Jose wrote:
Sounds like he's the seller or has contacts with him otherwise how did he got your email in the 1st place ? Did you exchange any emails with the seller before even if regarding this item ?
These kind scammers don't KNOW E-mailadresses, they just GUESS them.
I've had the same thing a few months ago when I placed some bids on an A4000 on Ebay. Before the auction ended I got an E-mail from some scam artist, but not on the address I use for Ebay.
How's this possible? Very easy: my Ebay username is McVenco, and I also have a Hotmail address with that name. I received the scam on that hotmail address, though my Ebay address is something else.
Finally: they're not aiming specifically on Amiga, they just look at auctions with high prices.
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If you want to have fun you can really lead these guys on. They don't know a lick about the Amiga, so you can ask them if the Blizzard PPC accelerator (or whatever) has the optional goldfish glued to it, becuase if it does you will pay more. They will usually respond enthusiastically saying YES it does! Also, since they don't keep track of all their scams, you can change the product name in every e-mail and they will always respond with they name of the product exactly how you changed it (even if you change it from a PPC accelerator to running shoes).
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McVenco made an excellent resume, if you want to have fun with theses guys use their mail, and post the answer to make us laught :lol:
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@ Jose
Yep, to the verified address.
So I may still be OK, although I phoned the RM dispatch centre in the guys home town and alerted them to the fraud and asked them to return the parcel to the return address on the box if they catch it.
(Legally this is a bit of a sticky wicket apparently)
They were quite helpful and promised to publicise it too their drivers, but I'm not holding out too much hope for it.
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Look at wot he's selling now?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AmigaOne-XE-G4-933Mhz-PPC-512MB-ram-OS4-0-Amiga-One_W0QQitemZ180212675038QQihZ008QQcategoryZ4598QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122
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carvedeye wrote:
Look at wot he's selling now?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/AmigaOne-XE-G4-933Mhz-PPC-512MB-ram-OS4-0-Amiga-One_W0QQitemZ180212675038QQihZ008QQcategoryZ4598QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p1638.m122
He`s having a right "Royal" clearout aint he! That Amiga 600 is just so, ..NEW! :-o
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@carvedeye : yeps he had a large collection but he is ok.
Do you want some more ?
YES !!!
About a defective Blizzard PPC 603e+ 160MHz + 2x8Mo :
From: Frank Tullman (franktullman@gmail.com)
Dear cls2086,
I have for sale: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280196348349 My price is negociable. If you are interested just give me a fast reply on this email address and you will find all the info that you want. Please contact me as soon as possible for more details directly at franktullman@gmail.com !
Thanks for your time !!
Once again it arrived on my non EBAY mail box :lol:
And an another that strangely also come from "no-reply@mavhost.propagation.net".
Question from eBay member "APPAREIL PHOTO NUMERIQUE NIKON 5 MEGAPIXELS" (Item number: 130195068211 )
From: Mr Ma34cr (no-reply@mavhost.propagation.net)
Reply-to: ma34cr@gmail.com
Hi,
I am the seller of this item : APPAREIL PHOTO NUMERIQUE NIKON 5 MEGAPIXELS
Item number: 130195068211
Tell me if you want to buy it right now.Make me a good offer and reply this email !!!
Thank you
Should we maintain open this thread about theses scammers ?
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Kin-Hell wrote:
He`s having a right "Royal" clearout aint he! That Amiga 600 is just so, ..NEW! :-o
OMG, and it's one of those with the nice ("mechanical") keyboard... Damn!!! I've been looking for one of those for ages! This one is going to sell for way more than $100, that's for sure... I predict $250 at least.
I wish I had enough money to bid on his one... argh :boohoo: