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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: ami_junki on February 03, 2008, 04:56:48 AM
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Hello everyone again, I have a another question, I am trying to figure out if it is really worth upgrading the roms of my A1200 to 3.1, I am not planning to put any graphics cards into it, just later on I would like to add a network card and use CF cards but I can do that all fine with a 3.0 kickstart or do I need to upgrade?
Thanks,
Timo
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I would definitely recommend you to upgrade to 3.1.
I find it generally more stable than 3.0, slightly faster, and it allows you to upgrade to 3.5/3.9 easily.
Besides, 3.1 ROMs are not that expensive anymore.
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OK nice one, so it does make a difference, thanks for letting me know :)
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Plus I'm sure you can find some friendly hacker who will create you a "backup" set for the cost of a pair of 27C400 EPROMS.
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and that friendly hacker maybe living only a 30 min train ride distance to you
:wink wink:
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Well in theroy no. You can get an OS3.9 look on 3.0 and all the benefits but it does make things a whole lot easyer with 3.1 so I would recomend that.
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hehehe i see ... i will pm this person then wink wink
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I gotta ask, just how big was the Amiga in Japan?
Dammy
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ami_junki wrote:
Hello everyone again, I have a another question, I am trying to figure out if it is really worth upgrading the roms of my A1200 to 3.1, I am not planning to put any graphics cards into it, just later on I would like to add a network card and use CF cards but I can do that all fine with a 3.0 kickstart or do I need to upgrade?
hey thanks as I was thinking the exact same thing :-)
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dammy wrote:
I gotta ask, just how big was the Amiga in Japan?
Not at all. Commodore never added support for Japanese charsets to the OS. But there still were (and are) some users.
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I never noticed any difference in speed between 3.0 and 3.1. If you don't need 3.1 then I wouldn't bother.
AFAIK PCMCIA lan and CF cards will work fine.
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There are several important reason to upgrade to 3.1. Speed is NOT one of them. Stability IS!
I went to 3.1 in all of my Amigas, except the A1000, and that's about to change....
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Hi
My 1993 A1200 is still running here on the original ROM and is fitted with an internal IDE, 2 x external SCSI drives, ZIP drive, ethernet with broadband and CDRom drive and quite honestly I have never noticed the difference. I have other machines with 3.1 and also the later OSs, but really I still use my original A1200 as the grunt machine here for mail and disk work and I have never felt I needed to upgrade. Works just fine.
scuzz
http://www.commodore-amiga-retro.com
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alexh wrote:
Plus I'm sure you can find some friendly hacker who will create you a "backup" set for the cost of a pair of 27C400 EPROMS.
Does anyone know a cheap source for these (preferably in Germany)? Are there any EPROM burners + software for the Amiga?
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There are several important reason to upgrade to 3.1. Speed is NOT one of them. Stability IS!
When it comes to "stability" Kickstart 3.0 and 3.1 are same.
Some games like dynAMIte run little faster on Kickstart 3.1 because they use WCP()(? IIRC) on the 3.1 ROM but Kickstart 3.1 is not faster than 3.0.
It is like upgrading from 2.04 to 2.1. Very little new, old same thing.
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3.1 gives you autoconfig for that one accelerator/RAM expansion thingy I had that I can't remember the name of right now. I only had 3.0, so I had to have the config thingy run in startup-sequence. So, pretty much I didn't get the extra RAM if I didn't.
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itix wrote:
It is like upgrading from 2.04 to 2.1. Very little new, old same thing.
Didn't kickstart 2.05 (not 2.1 - that's the WB version) had built in harddisk autoboot support, while 2.04 hadn't? AFAIK, the differences between 2.04 and 2.05 are bigger than between 3.0 and 3.1...
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weirdami wrote:
3.1 gives you autoconfig for that one accelerator/RAM expansion thingy I had that I can't remember the name of right now. I only had 3.0, so I had to have the config thingy run in startup-sequence. So, pretty much I didn't get the extra RAM if I didn't.
Perhaps the Microbotics 1230 XA (http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/mbx1230)?
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McVenco wrote:
Didn't kickstart 2.05 (not 2.1 - that's the WB version) had built in harddisk autoboot support, while 2.04 hadn't? AFAIK, the differences between 2.04 and 2.05 are bigger than between 3.0 and 3.1...
KS 2.05 (from rev 37.300 onwards) brought in a driver for the A600's internal ide connector.
All kickstarts from 1.2.1 (or really 1.3) onwards have supported autobooting from a hard drive.
The differences between 2.04 and 2.05 are rather minor. Merely a carddisk.device and the aforementioned a600 ide driver, perhaps a few bug fixes here and there.
Workbench wise 2.0x -> 2.1 was a bigger leap (yet still minor) than 3.0 -> 3.1