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Title: new os 4 hoax?
Post by: monami on February 01, 2008, 12:31:15 PM
there is a new os 4 video on youtube.

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=25393&forum=14
Title: Re: hoax?
Post by: arnljot on February 01, 2008, 12:38:17 PM
I was going to reply "use search", "we've seen moana!" etc.

Then I restrained myself and thought, nah some one else will...

And then I looked at the actual link... Cripes!!!

I hope people BUY OS4 to play around like that... It's awesome :)
Title: Re: hoax?
Post by: spihunter on February 01, 2008, 12:39:37 PM
Probably, but who knows until they give more evidence? There could be an A1 under the desk in that video.
Title: Re: hoax?
Post by: HenryCase on February 01, 2008, 01:00:23 PM
@spihunter
That's certainly a possibility (the A1 under desk theory).

If it does turn out to be true, its a brilliant development for OS4. I just wish the video quality wasn't so grainy so I could read the text.
Title: Re: hoax?
Post by: Krusher on February 01, 2008, 01:13:10 PM
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HenryCase wrote:
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If it does turn out to be true, its a brilliant development for OS4. I just wish the video quality wasn't so grainy so I could read the text.


It shows various parts of the Mac hardware..
Title: Re: hoax?
Post by: HenryCase on February 01, 2008, 01:59:29 PM
@Krusher
I suspected as much. You must have super good eyesight to read all that stuff. What information did you glean from reading the text? What version of MacMini is this running on, for example?
Title: Re: hoax?
Post by: Krusher on February 01, 2008, 02:08:53 PM
Some devices show up as Apple Computer Inc - unknown
Nec - USB 2.0 host
Ati - Graphics card Radeon 9200
Broadcom - Network device?

And a long list of vendor and pci devices, among a Stingray GUI accelerator

Actually it's this list (http://www.pcidatabase.com/reports.php?type=tab-delimeted)
Title: Re: hoax?
Post by: AndrewBell on February 01, 2008, 02:20:40 PM
The video doesn't really prove that OS4 can be run on a Mac. The showconfig type utilities could just be a shell script, and it doesn't show OS4 booting.

It's an interesting video, but it's not proof of any sort.
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Title: Re: new os 4 hoax?
Post by: downix on February 01, 2008, 03:08:16 PM
at this point, it's just pathetic.  Clinging to some desperate hope.

"let's port our dead OS to a dead platform"

Face it, the Amiga as a product is dead.  Projects like AROS and the MiniMig are the future for Amiga, and the sooner we can accept it and move on, the better it will be for all of us.
Title: Re: new os 4 hoax?
Post by: HenryCase on February 01, 2008, 06:38:40 PM
@downix
It's interesting from a technical perspective. Also, however small the Amiga market is now any work that helps to extend the availability of Amiga products should be welcomed, IMO.

I've got a lot of time for AROS and the Minimig, but it's not an either/or situation about which ones we should support, at least not at the moment. Lets give all Amiga platforms time to mature before backing one solution on masse.
Title: Re: new os 4 hoax?
Post by: motorollin on February 01, 2008, 06:51:26 PM
Easy to hoax to be honest. As previously mentioned, the showconfig scripts etc could very, very easily be faked. Rebooting the machine and allowing OS X to boot is an excellent way to provide evidence for the legitimacy of this demonstration, but I think it's very suspicious that the camera pans away just before the machine starts back up. How do we know that the operator didn't switch a KVM from an A1 to a Mac while the camera was looking elsewhere?

If this were real, the only convincing demonstration would show the Mac Mini powered off with the video cable visible, showing it going from the Mac Mini to the monitor, then the Mac Mini powers on and boots OS4 with no camera movement whatsoever.

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Title: Re: new os 4 hoax?
Post by: AndrewBell on February 01, 2008, 06:56:45 PM
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HenryCase wrote:
I've got a lot of time for AROS


Just as well, it's taken them 12-13 years to get this far.
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Title: Re: new os 4 hoax?
Post by: HenryCase on February 01, 2008, 07:24:32 PM
@AndrewBell
I haven't been following AROS from the start, so it still feels like a new project to me. Here's hoping the next 12-13 years will be a little more kind to AROS growth.
Title: Re: new os 4 hoax?
Post by: dammy on February 01, 2008, 08:12:51 PM
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Just as well, it's taken them 12-13 years to get this far.


And out of the past four years, you would be amazed on the advancement compared to the other 8 years.  08 is going to be a very interesting year for AROS developement.

Dammy
TeamAROS (http://www.teamaros.org)
Title: Re: new os 4 hoax?
Post by: jj on February 01, 2008, 08:24:28 PM
can somebody post a link please, cant be arsed to search
Title: Re: new os 4 hoax?
Post by: HenryCase on February 01, 2008, 09:03:48 PM
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dammy wrote:
08 is going to be a very interesting year for AROS developement.


I think so too.

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JJ wrote:
can somebody post a link please, cant be arsed to search


It's at the top of the page (first post in amigaworld discussion).
Title: Re: new os 4 hoax?
Post by: Krusher on February 01, 2008, 09:08:36 PM
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dammy wrote:
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Just as well, it's taken them 12-13 years to get this far.


And out of the past four years, you would be amazed on the advancement compared to the other 8 years.  08 is going to be a very interesting year for AROS developement.

Dammy
TeamAROS (http://www.teamaros.org)


I don't know how many active developers AROS has, but look at Microsoft and how long it took them to get to Windows XP, Vista and realizing Vista wasn't the thing so they started on Windows Blackcomb, which is a modularized Windows.

All in all, it's impressive to see AROS going the way it goes  :-)