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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: tokyoracer on January 31, 2008, 02:50:13 PM

Title: A4000 Keys?
Post by: tokyoracer on January 31, 2008, 02:50:13 PM: Hi A-users,
I know this has been asked before but im after a set of keys that will fit in the front beizel lock but unsure what exactly to look for. Preferbly official ones but if not then any that will fit nicely. I was thinking about Maplins but got no idea what to ask for as im not sure of the dimentions and the shape.
Any help would be much apriciated. :-)
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: rkauer on January 31, 2008, 03:53:59 PM: Buy the entire lock + keys set.

The size of any lock is the same. But the "secret" is not.

Substitute the whole damm thing.
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: hardlink on January 31, 2008, 04:07:40 PM: Quote

tokyoracer wrote:
Hi A-users,
I know this has been asked before ...

True:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=29801
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: tokyoracer on January 31, 2008, 05:08:52 PM: @ rkauer, But some may "stick out" like moto said. :-?

[EDIT] How do I know to buy the right one?
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: rkauer on January 31, 2008, 09:21:39 PM: Quote

tokyoracer wrote:
@ rkauer, But some may "stick out" like moto said. :-?

[EDIT] How do I know to buy the right one?

Bring the original lock with you when you buy another one!
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: tokyoracer on January 31, 2008, 10:03:41 PM: Just thought of that!
I will bring the whole beizel so then it could be sorted on the spot. Thanks! :-)
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: rkauer on January 31, 2008, 10:40:08 PM: Quote

tokyoracer wrote:
Just thought of that!
I will bring the whole beizel so then it could be sorted on the spot. Thanks! :-)

:lol: :lol: :lol:

No need to take out the whole bezel. Just take out the original lock to compare to a new one. What to look: diameter and the "frontal" height (the part who protrude from the bezel).
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: tokyoracer on February 01, 2008, 12:16:13 AM: @ rkauer, I don't have the tools here (or can't find them) but to be honest that would be best as it can be sorted there if I can prompt them to. :-)
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: tokyoracer on February 02, 2008, 05:02:34 PM: I return, with a new lock! There was no exact one but the diameter is correct, it just sticks out a small tad but is neat enough. Though I can't work out were the wires should go and were the 3 hole plug goes (I presume it's behind the LED power plugs so thats what I used at the time). I tried to hold the wires on by my finger and switching the machine on and no luck. It always turns on. Some sort of diagram would be great here. :-?
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: Matt_H on February 02, 2008, 05:34:55 PM: @ tokyoracer

The machine is supposed to always turn on. They keylock just disables the mouse and keyboard so it can't be used.
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: tokyoracer on February 02, 2008, 05:40:29 PM: Oops, will give that a go then! Sorry. :roll:

[EDIT] Well at the moment my 4000 isn't booting up at all, I fear it maybe a faulty motherboard. Things on the Amiga front for me hasn't been going well or cheaply to say the least.
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: tokyoracer on February 06, 2008, 01:47:07 PM: Just to say, the lock is working fine. Thanks for the help guys. :-)
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: ThePieman on February 13, 2008, 08:39:34 PM: Does any wires need to be connected to the key? I mean would this prevent it from working?

Thanks, ThePieman
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: rkauer on February 13, 2008, 10:49:14 PM: The key is connected to two wires on the motherboard, intended for blocking the keyboard/mouse use.
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: AMC258 on February 13, 2008, 11:15:15 PM: Did anyone ever actually use this feature? I remember that most Peecees were keyed alike, so everyone had the key, and that the keylock was supposed to turn off the keyboard (power) but on some peecees it was a BIOS function that didn't work on powerup. So, you could PRES ~~FOR SETUP... and disable the keylock!~~
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: A6000 on February 15, 2008, 08:40:21 AM: I am surprised that cheap key swiches have unique keys, could someone who has several A4000's check if any key fits any lock please.
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: banzai on February 15, 2008, 11:19:14 AM: As a former system builder, I happen to have about a dozen sets lying around (and an A4000), so...

The key sets all have a number marked on them, ranging from "101" to "1102". NOT ONE single key fits the A4000 I have.

Either the diameter isn't right, the wall is too thick to allow it to engage, or the "pin" on the barrel (looks like the front sight on a rifle) doesn't allow it to turn the lock.

So, yes, they are keyed differently.

And the reason I had so many of them? We NEVER used 'em - it was too simple to just open up the computer case and disconnect the "KEYLOCK" connector, and the cases we used had easily defeated lock mechanisms. We called them "Delayed-Theft Devices", instead of "Anti-".

banzai
Title: Re: A4000 Keys?
Post by: A6000 on February 15, 2008, 12:03:39 PM: @banzai
Not the answer I was hoping for but Thank you for trying.

I had hoped that if an original amiga key could open any A4000, then that key could be duplicated and we could all have keys if we wanted them, I would also hope that a new key would cost less than a new switch with 2 keys, but with modern economics, that cannot be taken for granted!. :roll: