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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: Caius on January 28, 2008, 08:09:33 PM
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Got myself a copy of MacOS 8.1, and installed it under ShapeShifter: picture here (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=2374=38)
Now, since I'm a Mac newbie, I've got some questions. First and foremost, where can I get software for this thing? I mean things like web browser, pdf reader, and anything else fun and/or useful, really. I'm not looking for warez, mind you.
Seems m68k version of 8.1 is hard finding software for. Not really a surprise, of course.
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For browser you can use iCab, Netscape, or Internet Explorer (all old versions). Not sure about PDF stuff. I do that in AmigaOS.
Some good links at Gamba's page:
http://home.earthlink.net/~gamba2/
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i never found much to run on a real mac with 8.1...
http://www.geocities.com/sosumis_68k_mac/links.html
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Wow you have 8.1 running! For me I couldn't get the update from 8.0 to 8.1 to run.
Anyway I use System 7.5.5 and run iCab on it. Furthermore some games like Warcraft 1 & 2, Settlers 2 and SimCity2000 for example.
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Flashlab wrote:
Wow you have 8.1 running! For me I couldn't get the update from 8.0 to 8.1 to run.
It took a bit of trial and error. It kept freezing at the end of the update. I tried a few things from the troubleshooting section of the ShapeShifter docs, and I believe it was adding NOCOPYBACK to tool types that eventually got it running.
Thanks for the links so far guys.
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It may also be that I checked "Allocate Mac ROM memory first" in the prefs.
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The 68k version of Escape Velocity always ran well on my 060 Fusion setup w/ MacOS 8
Not sure where to get it now though?
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Wasn't 8.5 released as freeware by Apple?
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@odin:
No, even 7.6 not relased as freeware.
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What fun can I have with MacOS8.1?
Well how how fun could you have with an old hag? :-D
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It was some funny version before the popular 7.1 that was released for free, like 7.0.1. I remember downloading from an official Apple FTP site in 1996 I think.
Apple emulation used to be very cool. I remember using it for alot of internet stuff back when I could actually run relatively up to date browsers in it that didn't exist for Amiga OS.
I even ran Doom and Wolfenstein before they were ported to the Amiga. Also things like MS Office, Photoshop and Quark Express were popular reasons for using Mac Emulators back then too.
10 years on though its all obsolete so not so useful, but still lots of fun to play with :-)
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As far as I'm aware only up to System 6 is freeware
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I have 8.1 running on my MBP... using some emulator, I forget the name right now... surfing the Net with Netscape is a wonderful Retro experience... though probably better than any Amiga browser... ;-)
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System 7.5.3 has been released for free (http://download.info.apple.com/Apple_Support_Area/Apple_Software_Updates/English-North_American/Macintosh/System/Older_System/System_7.5_Version_7.5.3/).
You can download any language Apple released for 7.5.3.
Just use the update to 7.5.5 and you're done.
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No its not freeware mac os 7 is
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Freeware or not, you can download it for free from the source itself, Apple.
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I'd say old Mac 68k games.
I've recently managed to run Rebel Assault II on my Amiga.
Not to mention old Lucas Arts adventure games. Believe me, something beautiful. It really runs smoothly.
:-D
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God, get with the times man, Im running 10.5.1 lmao
I first started on OS8.x and we had Photoshop 4 and alike but Im guessing theyre PPC only?
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Martin_Lee wrote:
God, get with the times man
Oh the irony... :-P
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And not even 3.9 on the A1200 :lol:.
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Quite some things never released for miggy, to name most of them:
Apps:
Photoshop 4 with Kai's tools 3+4, MS Office 6, Quark Xpress, Illustrator, Painter 6, Power Goo, Netscape 4
Games:
Marathon 1+2, Warcraft, Alone in the Dark, Civ 2
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Unfortunately for Mac people, they don't have an all encompassing site like Aminet. But there are some good sites from which to DL software:
www.pure-mac.com - - I've used this a lot
mac.org
macfreebees.tripod.com
If you can find it, "Reversi-The Eclipse" is the best implimentation of this game I've ever seen and its shareware.
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Back in the day Amigas were cheaper than equivalent Macs by a fair amount, so when you could run MacOS it was great. Nowadays their really isn't much point. The old Macs didn't even have a command line interface.
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yea wasnt that the coolest thing??? W/a decent Amiga you could run some neat apps.. I loved messing w/shapeshifter.
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persia wrote:
Back in the day Amigas were cheaper than equivalent Macs by a fair amount, so when you could run MacOS it was great. Nowadays their really isn't much point. The old Macs didn't even have a command line interface.
Not much point? It's the same point as with any other kind of retro computing: Fun!
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It's funny how one of the greatest draws to Apple products for me is their hardware designs. Not the chips and such but the cases and ergonomic details.
I just got a Quadra 605 working last night and it's cool! With the correct monitor and keyboard mated to it, it looks like a prop from a Star Trek movie. This thing should be exploring space!
I enjoyed setting up the HD and installing OS 7.5.5. I'm haft tempted to max out the memory. Now if I could just get a decent optical mouse or trackball.
Another site to add to my list above is Jag's House. There's lots of great info and links.
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"Retro" and "Mac user" are oxymorons. Mac users like to think of themselves as sitting back, having a cup of tea waiting for the cutting edge to come somewhere close to them before they are off again. Mac users fell that the cutting edge is so last week tuesday...
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@ Group
Yeah- Jag's house: www.jagshouse.com is a great resource of lowend mac stuff.
www.lowendmac.com of course..
then there is the 68K Macintosh Liberation Army (always good for a smile on their forums) www.68kmla.net
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Tenacious wrote:
It's funny how one of the greatest draws to Apple products for me is their hardware designs. Not the chips and such but the cases and ergonomic details.
Case design like the II (all were just boxes, but the II/IIfx were especially huge!), 20th Anniversary, and Clamshell iBook? IMHO, three of the worst looking computers of all time .
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@Tenacious
Here is a Wikipedia article about the Quadra 605 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macintosh_Quadra_605 :-D
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Thanks Invisix.
I found a Performa 475 (same as 605) too. The battery was gone so I bought one fromRadio Shack. After tax, these go for $18 now (more than I paid for some computers, grin).
I have way too many Macs. I think I'm going to keep 3 and try to find a good home for the rest. Any takers in my area?
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You could sit back an marvel in the fact that Apple still hadn't caught up with the Amiga by 1997 (that took until at least 2003) :D
There is a lot of decent software out there for 68k Macs, most of it is abandon-ware of one type or another. The older versions of Photoshop (>= 4.0.1) and stuff like Filemaker Pro, Excel & Word (yes, they were non-bloated apps of fine quality once upon a time ;)), and much more are all to be had with a bit of searching. Then you can learn to love the fixed memory management, poor multitasking, and the joy of extension conflicts and the annoying Control Panels folder :)