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Title: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: ikir on July 24, 2003, 08:15:40 PM
From Merlancia homepage:

Genesi SARL is a Luxenbourg based technologies company specialising in PowerPC hardware and operating system development. They are the the result of a merger between bPlan GmbH of Frankfurt Germany, and Thendic France. Genesi is the firm developing the operating system "MorphOS", the operating system used on the Merlancia Amiga MCC and Merlancia Torro series of products.

Incredible!!! Merlancia and Genesi are partners!!!!!!! WOW! I'm shocked.....
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: Ni72ous on July 24, 2003, 08:20:01 PM
And they are gonna use that cool case :)
MCC (http://merlanciausa.com/beta/layout/mcc/)
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: GadgetMaster on July 24, 2003, 08:23:10 PM
I dont think this is anything to be surprised about.

Amiga related sites are notorious for being out of date and for listing half baked ideas as "done deals".


I guess It's all just wishful thinking.

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Purely speculation on my part may I add
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Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: redrumloa on July 24, 2003, 08:24:45 PM
It may not be valid.
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: ikir on July 24, 2003, 08:25:09 PM
No, i visited Merlancia site several times and i never read it! It is new!

Also the date on the AmigaMCC realease is uptodate!
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: CodeSmith on July 24, 2003, 08:27:51 PM
Well, I guess that means we found out who Genesi's set-top box partner is  :-D

That said, I think it is a monumentally stupid idea on Genesi's part to associate themselves with Merlancia.  That name is pretty much synonymous with fraud...

NOTE TO TROLLS: I don't want to hear anthing about "So is Amiga Inc" or "Genesi are frauds anyway"
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: GadgetMaster on July 24, 2003, 08:33:48 PM
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ikir wrote:
No, i visited Merlancia site several times and i never read it! It is new!

Also the date on the AmigaMCC realease is uptodate!


Until someone from Genesi confirms/denys this, it is just not worth taking too seriously.

Those release dates have been revised umpteen times before.
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: Ni72ous on July 24, 2003, 08:34:15 PM
I wonder if they will sell just the case, monitor and a keyboard, if they do i would get one
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: hagar on July 24, 2003, 08:38:20 PM
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ikir wrote:
From Merlancia homepage:

Genesi SARL is a Luxenbourg based technologies company specialising in PowerPC hardware and operating system development. They are the the result of a merger between bPlan GmbH of Frankfurt Germany, and Thendic France. Genesi is the firm developing the operating system "MorphOS", the operating system used on the Merlancia Amiga MCC and Merlancia Torro series of products.

Incredible!!! Merlancia and Genesi are partners!!!!!!! WOW! I'm shocked.....


And exactly where did you find that text?
(where did you click?)
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: takemehomegrandma on July 24, 2003, 08:39:47 PM
@ CodeSmith

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I think it is a monumentally stupid idea on Genesi's part to associate themselves with Merlancia.


Has Genesi really taken the initiative to "associate themselves with Merlancia"? Couldn't it be that Merlancia simply plans to buy a bunch of motherboards and put them into their own case design and sell them as "Amiga MCC Systems"?

That said, I have nothing personal against Merlancia, I think the design is cool, and I wouldn't mind a Pegasos in that appearance! :-)

But for obvious reasons I will consider this as vapor until it actually happens. ;-)
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: mikeymike on July 24, 2003, 08:41:11 PM
I wonder whether any ideas that came from A Inc that turned out to be vapourware continue to have their curse after the rights to that idea have been sold on? :-)
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: sdesros on July 24, 2003, 08:52:48 PM
http://www.merlancia.com/partners/
^^

Here, click on "contact" and then "partners".

Umm... Wonder if bbrv will have a chance to comment on this?
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: ikir on July 24, 2003, 08:58:23 PM
Merlancia have a bad reputation i know, but i like it... woulb be nice to see some real products form Merlancia... but AmigaOne compatible would be better.
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: takemehomegrandma on July 24, 2003, 09:01:35 PM
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but AmigaOne compatible would be better.


How big is the case? Is  there room for a full ATX motherboard with peripherals?
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: CodeSmith on July 24, 2003, 09:38:19 PM
@TMHG:

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Has Genesi really taken the initiative to "associate themselves with Merlancia"? Couldn't it be that Merlancia simply plans to buy a bunch of motherboards and put them into their own case design and sell them as "Amiga MCC Systems"?


Merlancia has Genesi under "partners", and I'm pretty sure that's a two-way thing (ie I can't sell hot dogs on the street and say that Oscar Meyer are my partners)
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: Andre.Siegel on July 24, 2003, 10:22:49 PM
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Merlancia has Genesi under "partners", and I'm pretty sure that's a two-way thing (ie I can't sell hot dogs on the street and say that Oscar Meyer are my partners)


Merlancia are no "partner" of Genesi. Period.

As everyone else, Merlancia is free to buy a Pegasos motherboard and do with it whatever they like. That does not make them a business partner of Genesi. End of story.
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: zacman on July 24, 2003, 10:23:22 PM
>Incredible!!! Merlancia and Genesi are partners!!!!!!!
>WOW! I'm shocked.....

This issue has been discussed already several
months ago. Merlancia always wanted to use the
Pegasos/MorphOS for their 'products' and have
always announced that. However AFAIK there is no
partnership between Merlancia and Genesi.
Merlancia may get a motherboard if they order and
pay it. That's all.
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: Doobrey on July 25, 2003, 01:03:20 AM
From the Merlancia site..
" Other Systems in Design: .....  eClips, Palmtop"

 Aren`t Genesi developing a PPC palmtop/handheld called the Eclipsis ??
 eClips...Eclipsis .......
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: Madgun68 on July 25, 2003, 03:10:12 AM
Argh! Not Merlancia!

I get a mail saying "Thank you for e-mailing Merlancia Industries.... " every stinkin' week. Thing is that I've NEVER emailed them.
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: CodeSmith on July 25, 2003, 04:56:15 AM
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Merlancia are no "partner" of Genesi. Period.

Well, that sounds about par for the course for "Dr" Czerwinski then.    The page does seem out of date - Downix is mentioned as "a Merlancia partner for the design and production of the Merlancia Amiga MCC", and I'm pretty sure he's a Genesi employee, presumably spending a lot more time on the Peg2 than on the MCC :-D
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: bbrv on July 25, 2003, 05:48:42 AM
We have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with Merlancia!

They are not our partners.

We have NEVER had a single transaction or agreement between us.

We do not intend to work with Merlancia on any basis.

The claims they make on their website are FALSE!

Sincerely,
Raquel and Bill
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: Wain on July 25, 2003, 06:18:27 AM
YAY!!! Somebody important got on and settled something before there were 900,000 posts of speculation and insults flying everywhere FOR ONCE!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks bbrv, I now have a little less dread when I start to read a thread that begins with a quote from some website somehwere regarding an Amiga/Amiga-ish product.

 :-D

Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: gareth on July 25, 2003, 08:53:31 AM
>No, i visited Merlancia site several times and i ?>never read it! It is new!
>Also the date on the AmigaMCC realease is >uptodate!

It isn't new. I remember seeing it 6 months ago when I was looking for new information on Merlancia's cancelled product line.

Thanks for the clarification Bill.
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: ikir on July 25, 2003, 08:56:58 AM
No parteners? Ok good :-)    I know, most amigans hate Merlnacia, but i like it (sorry) :-)    i hope to see some real products from Merlancia, maybe an amigaone compatible.
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: yssing on July 25, 2003, 09:07:28 AM
Well I like the MCC design, so I would be happy to have my puter in that case.
But I can live without it..
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: ksk on July 25, 2003, 09:22:48 AM
"the operating system MorphOS, the operating system used on the Merlancia Amiga MCC "

LOL!
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: ikir on July 25, 2003, 11:31:40 AM
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ksk wrote:
"the operating system MorphOS, the operating system used on the Merlancia Amiga MCC "

LOL!


LOL :-D
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: Melaure on July 26, 2003, 12:23:56 PM
Well, it's now a Wait and See or Wait and Not See ...
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: T_Bone on July 26, 2003, 12:29:10 PM
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Melaure wrote:
Well, it's now a Wait and See or Wait and Not See ...


Or better yet, an "ignore and move on" :)
Title: Re: Merlancia and Genesi
Post by: Indoro on July 27, 2003, 12:35:52 AM
No, we are not partners. We were at one time discussing affilliation, which eventually fell through. Though we may use Pegasos products in our systems at some point, we are not partnered with Genesi (which entails a two way relationship). If we were, you would have long ago seen a Merlancia logo on their website somewhere.

Please note the 'Partners and Affiliates" tagline, and keep in mind that this portion of the merlancia.com website has not been updated in 6 months, as it is awaiting confirmation from other companies. The listing in question was made in November of 2002 when we were in discussions over several matters, few of which finalised.

Genesi makes quality products and we may use some of them as OEM parts. This is not the same as an industrial partnership and should not be taken as such. The Partners and Affiliates pages will be updated in one to two weeks with current information, and annotations as to the status of each relationship listed from thereon.

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