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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: persia on January 23, 2008, 04:55:28 PM
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I look at the KMOS (Amiga.com) site and there is only a brief mention of AA and a few PC games for sale. What exactly is AmigaAnywhere? Does anyone have a copy of it? The description sounds like it's a UAE clone, is that correct?
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No. AmigaForever is based on UAE.
AmigaAnywhere is an ahead-of-time compiler for a bytecode called Virtual Processor. It had non-platform specific stuff for writing multimedia applications. Since it was primarily written for hand-held devices, it didn't optimize fully and therefore didn't catch on.
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It's Intent.
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I don't get it, if it's Tao Group's Intent then why is it called AmigaAnywhere? Other than Tao Group being headquartered in England and Tripos being created in England they have nothing to do with each other. And who owns the IP of Tao Group now?
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Well, AInc. said they added some libraries on top of it, but few have seen them. Maybe some registered AA dev can post about it and if they had any use...
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persia wrote:
What exactly is AmigaAnywhere?
It's pretty much a waste of time.
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AmigaAnywhere is based on Taos Elate technology. For more info follow the links below.
http://www.byte.com/art/9407/sec6/art1.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20070528180024/http://tao-group.com
In my eyes the biggest blunder, and there have been many by Amiga Inc, in the early days was trying to to focus on two markets; mobile with one base OS and then tell the Amiga fans that they will also have the Amiga OS 4.0 with a unification later on.
In my eyes a desktop based Elate system would have kicked butt. The technology was all there, but as usual, the excution on behalf of Amiga Inc leaves little to be desired of.
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I don't get it, if it's Tao Group's Intent then why is it called AmigaAnywhere?
AA is little more than a library that runs on Intent.
McBill claims that the new AA2 is not based on Intent, so theoretically Tao is out of the picture as far as AA is concerned.
It's worth noting that AA has nothing at all to do with the real Amiga.
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You can view a picture of it here:
http://www.pcguru.plus.com/gfx/AmigaDE.jpg
I have added a few games on top of the original install:
Batty, Planet Zed,Maze Monster.
Its really designed for Mobile devices than anything else. Its rather underwhelming ....
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Simply a good joke. Or if you like: You can use it for nothing.
Seriously: It's a thing that is a solution for thousands of problems, just that thousands of problem are didn't exist yet. :-D
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Seriouly though it has nothing to do with the Amiga except the name... (something for the name followers)...
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Ok it was a neat idea in 1994, but I really don't see amy use for it today, I listen to music and watch videos on m phone now why would I want a virtual processor slowing everything down?
So what is AmigaDE in the screenshoss? Did intent run Amiga executables?
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AmigaDE is an early version of AmigaAnywhere. It does not run Amiga executables.
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persia wrote:
And who owns the IP of Tao Group now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tao_Group
The IP now seems to belong to a company with the rather fitting name "Antix Labs Ltd" :-)
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Amiga Inc has posted a AA2 FAQ on their page.
http://www.amiga.com/faqs/
Q: I have heard about something called "OS5". Is this the same thing?
A: No. AA2 and the product often referred to as OS5 are entirely separate distinct products.
Q: So what is OS5 then?
A: OS5 is an ongoing project to build a new distributed virtualized operating system (in the true sense of the term operating system) that is also capable of running in a hosted form. OS5 is a long-term project that incorporates many of the next generation operating system concepts Amiga has extolled in the past.
There are a few more AA2 vs OS5 answers there.
Nothing really new. Except they continue to refute that AA2 = OS5.
Good news, if they will deliver...
EDIT/OFF TOPIC:They've had one press release a month in 2008, that is a 42% increase since 2007 if they keep it up.
A sign of increased activity?
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I can do better, I can shrink it to four letters: crap :angry:
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I would define Amiga Anywhere like that:
Do you know when you ask for a Coke and Get a Pepsi ? This is like asking for a Coke and getting used engine oil... :-D
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It needs an OS to run and when you get it to run it is so fast that you can't even see it :-D . Only Chuck Norris can use it.
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I'd have to say that Win UAE is the best emulator software. So simple to use and constantly updated by the developer.
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AmigaAnywhere is bad marketing and the wrong name for this product............
1) it gives people the impression it runs Classic Amiga stuff
2) If it did run Amiga stuff, 99% of the world doesnt care
3) No one knows what the heck it is
4) The name needs to be changed, without theWord Amiga in it...it confuses people
5) it will fail if it is not changed
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I thought AA lost the Intent license, hence why this was AA2, reported to a new VP.
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downix wrote:
I thought AA lost the Intent license, hence why this was AA2, reported to a new VP.
No VP in AA2 as far as I can tell. Amiga only mention source compatibility, not binary compatibility on different platforms with AA2.
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What ticks me off about the whole AA idea is that they were offered freely a system to give them Intent-like capability, but with the added benefit of dynamic code generation on the fly and without corporate strings attached, and they turned it down.
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they continue to refute that AA2 = OS5.
Hey, I used the search function instead of creating a new thread. Yay, me! :-D
Anyhoo, I just read that FAQ thing. I'm confused again because I know that I saw a video of McEwen saying that AA2=OS5. AUGH!
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So what does this mean? A distributed virtualised OS? Distributed I understand, it's about three clicks to set up in OS X, but virtualised? Do they mean like Fusion or Parallels? How can a company that has to outsource an OS upgrade like AmigaOS 4 possibly deliver virtualisation? What the hell are they talking about?
Is Bill just virtualising the English language?
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Q: So what is OS5 then?
A: OS5 is an ongoing project to build a new distributed virtualized operating system (in the true sense of the term operating system) that is also capable of running in a hosted form. OS5 is a long-term project that incorporates many of the next generation operating system concepts Amiga has extolled in the past.
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leirbag28 wrote:
AmigaAnywhere is bad marketing and the wrong name for this product............
1) it gives people the impression it runs Classic Amiga stuff
2) If it did run Amiga stuff, 99% of the world doesnt care
3) No one knows what the heck it is
4) The name needs to be changed, without theWord Amiga in it...it confuses people
5) it will fail if it is not changed
AAAAAAARGH!!! I hate that phrase `Classic Amiga`.
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Abolutely it should be "Amiga Classic," the other way around is just silly.
Tension wrote:
leirbag28 wrote:
AmigaAnywhere is bad marketing and the wrong name for this product............
1) it gives people the impression it runs Classic Amiga stuff
2) If it did run Amiga stuff, 99% of the world doesnt care
3) No one knows what the heck it is
4) The name needs to be changed, without theWord Amiga in it...it confuses people
5) it will fail if it is not changed
AAAAAAARGH!!! I hate that phrase `Classic Amiga`.
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persia wrote:
Abolutely it should be "Amiga Classic," the other way around is just silly.
Tension wrote:
leirbag28 wrote:
AmigaAnywhere is bad marketing and the wrong name for this product............
1) it gives people the impression it runs Classic Amiga stuff
2) If it did run Amiga stuff, 99% of the world doesnt care
3) No one knows what the heck it is
4) The name needs to be changed, without theWord Amiga in it...it confuses people
5) it will fail if it is not changed
AAAAAAARGH!!! I hate that phrase `Classic Amiga`.
I think the correct term is "Real Amiga". :-)
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AAAAAAARGH!!! I hate that phrase `Classic Amiga`.
I think they should stop calling them "silent" movies. They are just movies. The sound ones should be called something other than just "movies". I'm going to the talkies to see Jumper tomorrow. Twenty three skidoo, Mable.