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Title: Samsung Syncmaster 150MP
Post by: punkyclown on January 11, 2008, 03:31:54 AM
The Big Book of Amiga Hardware says the Syncmaster 150MP will sync down to Amiga native screen modes.  So I bought one on eBay and it does not.  Is there something I should know or are they just wrong about it?
Thanks
Title: Re: Samsung Syncmaster 150MP
Post by: Trev on January 11, 2008, 05:00:21 AM
According to the manual on Samsung's site, the display only syncs down to 30 kHz, so they were probably referring to the Y/C and composite inputs. A deinterlaced and upconverted composite signal should still look rather nice.

Trev
Title: Re: Samsung Syncmaster 150MP
Post by: derringer3 on January 11, 2008, 08:30:54 AM
There is a scart in port in the samsung monitor. So if you use an rgb-scart cable you can use it with the best quality at 15KHz.
Title: Re: Samsung Syncmaster 150MP
Post by: Damion on January 15, 2008, 03:19:05 AM
A couple of notes on these Samsung monitors listed on the BBOA, since I just picked up a 171MP off the bay:

They will line-double non-laced modes, but they will not deinterlace -- laced modes still flicker and look terrible (similar effect as a 1084/etc).

Composite is also worthless.

On my NTSC unit, PAL screens are not displayed correctly at all. So these monitors are not both PAL/NTSC, only either/or.

The *only* thing that is acceptable is standard non-laced NTSC modes via the "D-TV" (VGA style HD) jack. However, there is at times a weird flicker, even then. So for us NTSC folk, they're essentially pointless for many games and pretty much all demos.

On a positive note, the interpolation (as usual with Samsungs) is very good, and non-native resolutions (that work) look just fine.

(Bummer to shell out so much $$$ experimenting the last year, trying to find a decent modern display... and finding my best options are a crappy old 1084 or WinUAE.)

--edited a few things--

Title: Re: Samsung Syncmaster 150MP
Post by: amigadave on January 15, 2008, 04:15:20 AM
Anyone looking for a basic, no frills, monitor that is capable of displaying all native Amiga display modes (except 1280x400 or whatever that crazy wide display is) and many resolutions from third party display cards and devices, I have 2 or 3 older NEC Multisyncs (2A and 3something) that will do the job fairly well that I am ready to sell.

Just drop me a PMail, or email.
Title: Re: Samsung Syncmaster 150MP
Post by: stefcep2 on January 15, 2008, 09:03:53 AM
The NEC Multisync 3D does ALL Amiga screenmodes, including highgraphics.  I know because I have one but it no longer switches on.  Before I had hsi i tried NEC multisync 2A: it only shows doubled-scan modes, not PAl or NTSC
Title: Re: Samsung Syncmaster 150MP
Post by: Tripitaka on January 15, 2008, 11:04:14 AM
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-D- wrote:
Composite is also worthless.


DAMNED RIGHT!!

I go for the RGB option everytime.
Title: Re: Samsung Syncmaster 150MP
Post by: Tripitaka on January 15, 2008, 11:13:16 AM
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stefcep2 wrote:
The NEC Multisync 3D does ALL Amiga screenmodes, including highgraphics.  I know because I have one but it no longer switches on.  Before I had hsi i tried NEC multisync 2A: it only shows doubled-scan modes, not PAl or NTSC


I've used an NEC 1810 for DVD authoring, stunning device for it's day. NEC have produced a lot of good screens suitable for Amiga, some sync down, others have seperate video input (often with BNC and suitable for NTSC too). NEC is a hardware partner Amiga probably SHOULD have courted.