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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: redrumloa on January 09, 2008, 11:26:52 PM
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HERE! (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270200654756&ssPageName=ADME:B:BCA:US:1123)
Oh man, I just know this is a steal. I'll be able to get it working just fine. Not quite an Amiga killer, but my 128 sure is an Amiga killer :-P
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Looks a little busticated.
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adolescent wrote:
Looks a little busticated.
Naah, looks like an easy fix to me. These old computers have electrolytic capacitors that dry up or leak. Open her up, spend a weekend replacing capacitors, re-seat socketed chips and it should be good to go. It "not working" is probably why I got it so cheap. I've already rejuvinated an old Televideo TS803H this way. The picture shows me the monitor works and it is not total DOA. Piece of cake. :-D
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Congrats !!!!
As always everything is outside Australia... :-(
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it looks way before my time... what exactly is it? i think dr who may have put it on ebay?
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I agree with RED, other than the Monitor and the Harddrive, I expect everything can probably still be replaced.
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monami wrote:
it looks way before my time... what exactly is it?
Kaypro 10, a luggable computer. Before there were laptops, there were luggables.
4Mhz 8bit processor
64K RAM
5.25 floppy drive
10MB hard drive
9" green screen (monochrome) monitor, 80x24 text
CP/M operating system
The Kaypro 10 was introduced in 1983, back before Microsoft had any real foothold in the computer market. Back then CP/M was the standard OS for business. It is hotly debated, but truth be told MS-DOS is a ripoff of CP/M which would probably be illegal if it was released under today's laws.
A cool thing is my C128 also runs CP/M, so I can run the same program on my 128 as I do on my Kaypro and my Televideo :-D
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Z80 @ 4mhz baby!!
Contiki port?
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spihunter wrote:
Contiki port?
I don't think a CP/M Contiki port ever happened. However, a buddy of mine has a made a functional tcp/ip for cp/m among other goodies :-)
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Nice machine ! :-D
...My wife said she will remove my testicles if I buy another computer...
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a buddy of mine has a made a functional tcp/ip for cp/m among other goodies
Sweet! Thats a good friend to have. Link?
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Yeah, man that is pretty sweet.
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spihunter wrote:
a buddy of mine has a made a functional tcp/ip for cp/m among other goodies
Sweet! Thats a good friend to have. Link?
http://tcp.dr.ea.ms/ (http://tcp.dr.ea.ms/)
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A cool thing is my C128 also runs CP/M, so I can run the same program on my 128 as I do on my Kaypro and my Televideo :-D
Don't you mean 'I can read the same disks on my 128 as I do on my Kaypro and my Televideo'? Or do these machines all use the same CPU? Isn't the 128 a 6502 (variant), meaning it won't run Z80 binaries?
I remember people touting one of the pluses of MS-DOS was that you could read the same disk on whatever computer was running it, as opposed to CP/M which was meant to be the case, but just wasn't because everyone had their own implementation of CP/M. Microsoft just standardised one variant from the bunch.
tiffers
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Is that milspec?
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Can you put up pics of her internals when you start your project, and some after pics? i love restoring old comps and this one looks like a real fun one. Good luck
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Don't you mean 'I can read the same disks on my 128 as I do on my Kaypro and my Televideo'? Or do these machines all use the same CPU? Isn't the 128 a 6502 (variant), meaning it won't run Z80 binaries?
The 128 has a Z80 for running in CP/M mode.
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spihunter wrote:
a buddy of mine has a made a functional tcp/ip for cp/m among other goodies
Do you think it will run in my TRS80 4P ?
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Pffft... That's no good... You cant put an Amiga OS on it! :-D
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tokyoracer wrote:
Pffft... That's no good... You cant put an Amiga OS on it! :-D
Actually, there was an Amiga emulator for the Spectrum 128.
It did the animated hand and disk bit, then displayed a Guru Meditation error.
Satirical at the time !
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What can you do with it? use it as a calculator? :lol:
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I'm sorry to say but TBH, i'm not impressed by it at all. It looks hardly useable.
I guess looking at it from a hardware aspect it's more desirable but I guess thats' just me.
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what about CP/M in ZX Spectrum +3 128K, would that tcpip run on that? (my first computer, eh the nostalgia..)
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tiffers wrote:
A cool thing is my C128 also runs CP/M, so I can run the same program on my 128 as I do on my Kaypro and my Televideo :-D
Don't you mean 'I can read the same disks on my 128 as I do on my Kaypro and my Televideo'? Or do these machines all use the same CPU? Isn't the 128 a 6502 (variant), meaning it won't run Z80 binaries?
I remember people touting one of the pluses of MS-DOS was that you could read the same disk on whatever computer was running it, as opposed to CP/M which was meant to be the case, but just wasn't because everyone had their own implementation of CP/M. Microsoft just standardised one variant from the bunch.
tiffers
{Bear in mind I am dusting off cobwebs here to the days of yesteryear..}
There were many many many CP/M variants back in the day.(CP/M 2.0, CP/M +, MP/M, oh man..) Isn't the version of CP/M that the 128 uses 3.0?? However Kaypro and the C-128 are very similar and we known to be quite compatable. I messed around with CP/M due to owning a 128 myself - and collected quite a few machines like the Superbrain, Kaypro II, Osborne Executive, and an Epson PX-8 laptop...they were a lot of fun.
Good for you Red! Enjoy it!
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it loox lik3 SX-64 portable 64 :)
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I was busy yesterday, but back :-)
Don't you mean 'I can read the same disks on my 128 as I do on my Kaypro and my Televideo'? Or do these machines all use the same CPU? Isn't the 128 a 6502 (variant), meaning it won't run Z80 binaries?
Others have replied correctly. The C128 also has a Z80 CPU for CP/M mode. I can confirm from first hand knowlege that CP/M binaries are compatability across a wide number of machines, the C128 being one of them.
I remember people touting one of the pluses of MS-DOS was that you could read the same disk on whatever computer was running it, as opposed to CP/M which was meant to be the case, but just wasn't because everyone had their own implementation of CP/M. Microsoft just standardised one variant from the bunch.
When it comes to the floppy disks themselves, it gets a bit tricker, yes. Most CP/M boxes had their own floppy format that other machines usually could not read. The list of various CP/M floppy types is quite long. A Osborne formatted floppy would not work in a Kaypro, for example.
However, this is where the C128 with 1571(and 1581) shines. The 1571 and 1581 are amazing drives. There is a free program called Juggler (http://www.herne.com/jugg.htm) that allows C128 CP/M to read and write more than 140 CP/M disk formats. I have used this in the past and it works perfectly. Pretty neat taking my old Televideo Wordstar floppy and running that version of Wordstar on my 128 without a hitch :-D
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Won't run Amiga OS4....
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amigakid wrote:
Can you put up pics of her internals when you start your project, and some after pics? i love restoring old comps and this one looks like a real fun one. Good luck
I should be able to, if there is interest. I kind of wished I did that with my Televideo..
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Do you think it will run in my TRS80 4P ?
Most likely, if not AJK would likely give a hand making it work.
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orange wrote:
what about CP/M in ZX Spectrum +3 128K, would that tcpip run on that? (my first computer, eh the nostalgia..)
More than likely, as long as it has a Z80 cpu. The code may need tweaked for the rs232.
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You want a sweet computer, take a look at the new MacBook Air. At it's thickest it's 2 cm and that slims down to 4 mm!!! Weighs all of 1.3 Kg. 80 GB HD, 2 GB Ram, iSight, Bluetooth, 34cm screen, multi-toch gestures, now there's a sweet machine...
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When you open her up you should hide a mini itx computer in there, and a kvm switch...
Confuse, baffle and scare your friends and neighbours :)
Cool buy!
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Thats cool. I have a Hyperion made by Dynalogic that was made in 1982 that is like your Kaypro. They are fun to play around with. Here is a link to the one like I have. Old computers has your as well in case you have not looked.
http://www.old-computers.com/museum/computer.asp?st=1&c=339
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Should be able to easily gut it and replace the innards with a mini-mig. How cool would that be!
:idea: