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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Nlandas on January 02, 2008, 07:41:16 PM
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Ok, experts I need you help on this one. This monitor looks like it meets the frequency needs to handle all AGA modes from my A4000 but I don't want to buy one to test it. It would sure be a lot less expensive than a Scan Doubler, if I can even find one.
From the sites I checked for AGA compatible monitors many of them listed the same frequencies but I'd really like someone who has been on the scene to confirm for me. I'm just coming back and I'm really rusty.
Horizontal Refresh Rate 15 kHz - 80 kHz
Vertical Refresh Rate 50 Hz - 90 Hz
Sceptre X9g-Naga (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824112177&Tpk=Sceptre%2bX9g)
-Nyle
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The frequencies are 100% correct. You can display all AGA screenmodes with those.
p.s. Please tell that guy from Australia about this monitor. Thanks. :-)
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ChaosLord wrote:
The frequencies are 100% correct. You can display all AGA screenmodes with those.
p.s. Please tell that guy from Australia about this monitor. Thanks. :-)
So for $179, I get a 17" LCD monitor that handles all of my AGA/ECS modes. That's sure a lot less expensive than a non-existent or used SD/FF.
I think I'm going to go for it.
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Wow, that's actually quite a nice find! Pity it's out of stock, though.
Make sure you let us know how it works on your miggy.
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Careful, the specs on Sceptre's site are different than what Newegg is listing...
http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/Specifications/spec_x9g_naga.htm
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How about this:
http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/Specifications/spec_x9gNagaV.htm
This is the Naga V your link pointed to Naga.
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Couple of things:
16.2M color display
It's not an 8-bit panel, the color loss might not bother you though.
Also, there's no guarantee it will handle laced modes without ill effects... only thing you can do is try and see.
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I have that exact model scepter currently(typing on this amiga 4k/mediator thats hooked to it here).
it does not sync to 15khz.
works great with the voodoo tho ;)
mike
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Be careful, those specs are not accurate. I purchased one of these not long ago and when it arrived the Manual on the CD that came with it has the specs as:
24 kHz - 80 kHz.
I called Sceptre, but their tech support couldn't give me a definite answer as to what the correct frequencies are on their LCD monitors. If you look at their website, all of the LCD monitors vary from 15 kHz to 31 kHz in the Horizontal and I was hoping that this one thats sepc'd as 15 kHz on the Website would work with a stock Amiga, but it didn't. I plan on trying some more of their other monitors, but finding them is a bit tough, and I don't won't to have a room full of monitors I'm not using. :roll:
vamigan
http://www.sceptre.com/Archive/index.htm (http://www.sceptre.com/Archive/index.htm)
http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/x-index.htm (http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/x-index.htm)
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Seems like this monitor should do it..its the "Gamer" version
http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/Specifications/spec_x9cNagaV.htm
if those specs are correct.
Rich
ny
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Merax wrote:
Careful, the specs on Sceptre's site are different than what Newegg is listing...
http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/Specifications/spec_x9g_naga.htm
Not if you go to the correct model #. :crazy:
X9G-NAGAV(gamer) (http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/Specifications/spec_x9cNagaV.htm)
:-D
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mechy wrote:
I have that exact model scepter currently(typing on this amiga 4k/mediator thats hooked to it here).
it does not sync to 15khz.
Darn, so the 15Khz in the specs of the NAGAV(gamer) is incorrect. It won't actually sync to 15Khz. Darn, I was hoping to not only use desktop but play games on it.
-Nyle :-?
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I found these monitors that claim to be multi format capable and handle EGA/CGA and older formats 15Khz and up. They seem to make several desktop models from 12"-19". I've contacted a reseller for pricing.
-Nyle
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mechy wrote:
I have that exact model scepter currently(typing on this amiga 4k/mediator thats hooked to it here).
it does not sync to 15khz.
I also bought one, used, because of the 15KHz spec I found on-line. Sadly, mechy is correct, it does not sync to direct Amiga RGB video output. :boohoo:
Don't believe everything you read.
I will not get another monitor until someone actually gets that model working on an Amiga, but if everyone does this, it makes for a chicken and egg problem.
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I contacted sceptre a while ago. I did find the specs on the internet. But had to be sure...
What i sendt:
> To:
> cs@sceptre.com
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> Hello
> I am looking for a 17" LCD flatpanel multisync monitor for > use on 15kHz vertical sync rates.
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> Do you have any products in your product line that fills
> these requirements?
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> Hope to hear from you
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> Best regards
The answer I got back:
Dear Customer,
I"m sorry to inform you that we have no models that support your
requested spec.
Best Regards,
Sceptre Technical Support Group
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I've a simple solution, buy a Samsung Syncmaster 2023MW.
It has the following connectors: HDMI, DVI-D, VGA AND RGB, S-Video, composite video, component video.
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Krusher wrote:
I've a simple solution, buy a Samsung Syncmaster 2023MW.
It has the following connectors: HDMI, DVI-D, VGA AND RGB, S-Video, composite video, component video.
But have you seen the Syncmaster sync to 15KHz horizontal input from the RGB connector?
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15khz is the normal PAL and NTSC frequency, so yes it would function since on the Samsung you can connect a dvd player or vcr to it.
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Krusher wrote:
15khz is the normal PAL and NTSC frequency, so yes it would function since on the Samsung you can connect a dvd player or vcr to it.
DVD players and VCR's do not have RGB outputs, that is why I asked if you had actually seen it sync up to an Amiga RGB output. The PAL and NTSC comp and s-video inputs may be internally scan-doubled, but not the RGB input.
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In my country dvd players and vcr's do have rgb outputs, they are called SCART connectors but they output RGB signals. Since the Amiga outputs RGB all you'd need is a Amiga to scart cable. I realized too late you're located in the USA, so you might need to find a USA model with the same specifications.
In theory, any LCD TV should work, and PC LCD monitors with a tuner build in (so called hybrid monitors).
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pyrre wrote:
I contacted sceptre a while ago. I did find the specs on the internet. But had to be sure...
What i sendt:
> To:
> cs@sceptre.com
>
>
> Hello
> I am looking for a 17" LCD flatpanel multisync monitor for > use on 15kHz vertical sync rates.
>
> Do you have any products in your product line that fills
> these requirements?
>
> Hope to hear from you
>
> Best regards
The answer I got back:
Dear Customer,
I"m sorry to inform you that we have no models that support your
requested spec.
Best Regards,
Sceptre Technical Support Group
That's because you need 15 KHz HORIZONTAL sync and 50 Hz VERTICAL scan.
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oooh....
I got that wrong. :rtfm:
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Krusher wrote:
In my country dvd players and vcr's do have rgb outputs, they are called SCART connectors but they output RGB signals. Since the Amiga outputs RGB all you'd need is a Amiga to scart cable. I realized too late you're located in the USA, so you might need to find a USA model with the same specifications.
In theory, any LCD TV should work, and PC LCD monitors with a tuner build in (so called hybrid monitors).
Cool, looks like your standard video gear uses RGB and is much higher quality than what we have over here! Unfortunately, they don't seem to send the good stuff here - I've never seen anything supporting inputs like that or even seen any ads. Friends here using LCD's on an Amiga either have to use the comp/s-video input which looks as crappy as it always has on CRT's, or use a legacy scandoubler for the VGA input.
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Whilst in the USA I purchased a $29 dvd player from soon to be defunct CompUSA. It had RGB connectors...
Also remember modern TVs are all multi-system, they just plug different tuners in them depending on destination. It was the god awful tube based things that forced you had to make a choice.
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So, Does anyone have some LCD monitor models that are sold in the USA that do sync to 15Khz on a port I can connect the Amiga RGB output to?
-Nyle