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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: doctorq on January 01, 2008, 09:43:45 PM

Title: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: doctorq on January 01, 2008, 09:43:45 PM
Can anyone recommend a utility to check a harddisk for bad sectos, read and write errors and anything else of importance for the health of the disk?? Something similar to scandisk on a Windows machine.

I have tried checkdisk from aminet, and it seems to do the job alright, but it's sooo slow. I reckon it will take 2 hours to check a 1 GB disk :-( I need something that's quicker and can handle drives above 4 GB.
Title: Re: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: VooDoo on January 01, 2008, 09:47:20 PM
Quarteback Tools is great for me..for OS3!!
Title: Re: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: doctorq on January 01, 2008, 10:09:12 PM
Does QB Tools support drives over 4 GB?
Title: Re: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: lionstorm on January 01, 2008, 10:16:21 PM
HDtoolbox has an option "check for bad blocks".
otherwise you could use disksalv.
Title: Re: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: TjLaZer on January 02, 2008, 12:28:01 AM
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Does QB Tools support drives over 4 GB?


I doubt it since it came out before the hacks and OS 3.5+
Title: Re: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: pyrre on January 02, 2008, 01:45:31 AM
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HDtoolbox has an option "check for bad blocks".

I have tried HDtoolbox.
Either it did not work at that time, or it was slooooow....
It was a 1.1 gig disk, WD caviar...
I would still like to use that disk, but i cant seem to find any tools to check for errors and remove them...

(i knocked it over while it was running)
Title: Re: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: Phantom on February 19, 2008, 02:50:56 PM
I think DiskSalv is only for floppy disks. But this way, it's the best tool for floppy disks on Amiga even now! ;-)
Title: Re: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: meega on February 19, 2008, 03:04:53 PM
I think you think wrongly... I seem to recall using DiskSalv to fix hard disks.
Title: Re: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: Phantom on February 19, 2008, 03:08:57 PM
Really? I never used it for hard disks (because in the old glory days, no hard disk was available!), but that's good to hear. Anyway, with DiskSalv I have managed to correct a lot of corrupted floppy disks.
Title: Re: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: Piru on February 19, 2008, 03:22:00 PM
@doctorq

Unfortunately amiga has no proper tool to check physical condition of a hard disk. HDToolBox does (or did, wasn't it removed for OS 3.5+?) have "check for bad blocks", but that didn't do anything on my IDE HDDs for example.

The tools listed check logical integrity of the filesystem.
Title: Re: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: Varthall on February 19, 2008, 03:24:26 PM
I have used in the past DiskSalv on my harddrive, too, and it worked well.  Unfortunately it doesn't support partitions >2GB.

Varthall
Title: Re: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: ChuckT on February 19, 2008, 04:58:10 PM
I remember Google doing a study on why Hard Drives fail and there really isn't evidence to show when a hard drive will fail:



http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/18/massive-google-hard-drive-survey-turns-up-very-interesting-thing/

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One of those we thought was most intriguing was that drives often needed replacement for issues that SMART drive status polling didn't or couldn't determine, and 56% of failed drives did not raise any significant SMART flags (and that's interesting, of course, because SMART exists solely to survey hard drive health); other notable patterns showed that failure rates are indeed definitely correlated to drive manufacturer, model, and age; failure rates did not correspond to drive usage except in very young and old drives (i.e. heavy data "grinding" is not a significant factor in failure);


The average warranty these days is five years on a hard drive so you should probably replace your own hard drives or back them up respectively.

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Piru wrote:
@doctorq

Unfortunately amiga has no proper tool to check physical condition of a hard disk. HDToolBox does (or did, wasn't it removed for OS 3.5+?) have "check for bad blocks", but that didn't do anything on my IDE HDDs for example.

The tools listed check logical integrity of the filesystem.
Title: Re: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: ChuckT on February 19, 2008, 05:26:01 PM
I use the PC a lot but after having so many 3 1/2 disk errors, I switched to USB thumb drives because it saved me from having to use up CD's everytime I want to back up my data.  I have some old CD's that apparently went blank and I have an external USB hard drive that I back stuff up on.

I recently saw 4GB SD cards on sale for $20 but I have enough thumb drives and I know that Micron came out with a faster memory card that will probably be used on USB3.0 and so I don't want to invest anymore money in hardware while I have a hard drive that is only used for backups.

Flash memory on a chip is more reliable than disks or hard drives because there are no moving parts and I think you can even get away leaving them in a car by accident because Flash memory is actually baked before during manufacturing before it is sold.  I saw a video on it being made at Kingston's website.  It is also more portable because you can put it in your pocket and it is like having a hard drive in your quarter pocket of your jeans.
Title: Re: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: DoogUK on February 19, 2008, 07:03:12 PM
On one tv show which i cannot recall, i witnessed a thumb drive being run over by a car several times, set fire to and finaly being put in the middle of a horrendous car crash.
Experts still retrieved 100% of tha data stored......Amazing realy.
Title: Re: Utility for checking disks for errors
Post by: ChuckT on February 19, 2008, 07:45:06 PM
Sandisk has a USB drive named "Titanium" because it will withstand about 2,000 pounds of weight.  I suppose it was developed for military applications but Sandisk still sold it to the public.