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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Gaming => Topic started by: pioneer on July 19, 2003, 08:13:42 PM
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I find those people ranting about Amiga, Inc's "lies" somewhat harsh (understatement). Some claim to have been lied to for decades (which resembles certain mental illnesses). It's common business practice to release information about current or future projects. In the Amiga's case it would be to develop potential sales or to encourage developers to write software for it. Then usually the projects would be scrapped because of lack of interest or resources. This has been going on for a very long time as the computer has gone through a long list of owners. This practice isn't unusual and certainly can't be called lying. Anybody who has been exposed to the computer marketplace for a length of time should be well aware of this.
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I'm with Amiga Inc. They are at the beginning, at least give them one chance. Wait OS4 and then see.
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I'm with Amiga Inc. They are at the beginning, at least give them one chance. Wait OS4 and then see.
At the beginning my a**. Excuse me, stating 1 week before the AmigaONE/OS4 official release date that it will happen as scheduled and there will be no delays in 2001 august, when it turned out not a bit of a code for OS4 existed and the AmigaONE was disfunct is a straightout lie in my eyes. Interpretations differ though.
That was 2 years ago. So much for being at the start. They repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat the same from time to time. My patience has long been gone, and I feel it as a shame that they own the name of something means much to me.
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They repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat the same from time to time.
Hmm, much like certain individuals on this site ...
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Because nothing ever changes?
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On schedule and rockin'.
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Find me any mildly successful company that hasn't outright lied at some point or at least "polished up the facts" so they would be more public-presentable, and I'd be very surprised.
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mikeymike wrote:
Find me any mildly successful company that hasn't outright lied at some point or at least "polished up the facts" so they would be more public-presentable, and I'd be very surprised.
Don't get me wrong, I'll buy an AmigaOne and OS4 once it's out, but a fan of "Amiga Inc" I will NEVER be. Bill Mcewen Lies about everything, even things that do not matter, the casual way he flips lies around is astonishing. Maybe some of you just don't care. I do.
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Which computer company hasn't lied or bend the truth?
Microsoft and Apple have allready earned an A+ with that.
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PulsatingQuasar wrote:
Which computer company hasn't lied or bend the truth?
Microsoft and Apple have allready earned an A+ with that.
Yes they have, and they get slagged off for it too.
What makes Amiga Inc so special that we aren't allowed to slag them off for lying?
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PulsatingQuasar wrote:
Which computer company hasn't lied or bend the truth?
Microsoft and Apple have allready earned an A+ with that.
And how many people cheerlead Microsoft and defend their lies? Saying "look, this other company lied too!" doesn't make Amiga Inc. any more respectable, it just makes them liars as well.
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Anyone remember the interview these Q&A's came from? Just about every single answer by Bill was a complete and utter steaming pile of dung. And he had NO NEED to lie.
>AA: What is the current status of development for AmigaOS 4.0? Does Amiga play an active part on the development, meaning do permanent employees of AMIGA, Inc. write on AmigaOS 4.0)?
>BM: AmigaOS 4.0 is an effort between Amiga Inc. and selected partners. Yes, Amiga engineers do write code that is a part of OS 4.0.
Complete and utter lie. Not only was it a lie, NOBODY was working on AOS4 at ALL. Amiga engineers indeed
>AA: What is the future of the successors of AmigaOS 4.0? Will they be released, especially version 5.0 which is to be merged with AmigaDE?
>BM: Absolutely they will be released. We are moving forward with all possible speed for a new Desktop OS.
He left out "All Possible speed" = "Well, nobody is doing ANYTHING right now, H&P decided to not do it, and Eyetech will tell you all about it soon."
>AA: That means, that now there are also plans for an x86 version of AmigaOS? Could you imagine cooperating with other developers, i.e. with the AROS team?
>BM: Yes, there are plans for an X86 version and a PPC version. This has been stated for some time. I will not make a comment here on who we are working with to accomplish our goals.
Wrong. He "Will not make a comment" because there was absolutely NO work going on at all.
>AA: But don't you think that the Amiga emulators Amithlon and AmigaXL, which were recently announced by Haage & Partner, are competing with the new versions of AmigaOS? Or is your company even involved into the development of those emulators?
>BM: Emulators are emulators. I like the two products and yes Amiga is working with them in the development process.
AT NO TIME was Amiga *EVER* involved in the developement process for EITHER product.
>BM: There is always going to be criticism about what we do, and how we communicate. At the beginning we gave more information and people said we were telling too much, then we cut back and people said that we were not telling enough. So we ended up in the middle, and there is more concern. Before the end of October there will be some changes and a new attitude and some new products.
Make no mistake, with the new Amiga that is emerging you will either follow or get out of the way, now if the time for Amiga.
Get a Clue Bill Mcewen! It's not "too little info" OR "too much info" that pisses people off, it's the COMPLETE BS and LIES you tell for NO REASON.
When the scandal broke (Thanks to Eyetech telling us) and I read over this interview, it exposed that man for the Liar he is, you can't trust that man at all, I'd doublecheck my watch if he so much as gave me the time of day.
These wern't "changed plans" or "changed directions", he knew he was full of BS at the time he was spouting this utter crap. We all know this now.
Oh, and the recent "The TShirts have already been printed and are ready to be delivered" crap from 5 months ago, another Lie.
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@T_Bone:
There is no room for facts or logic here! You must cease and desist from stating things that are clear, easily proven, and honest. Geez man, you want to start a war? (Oh, and saying something clever is just right out!)
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well hopefully amiga aint stealing....
about the lies..well i hope they are about to end soon, it havent been easy for them and it wont get easier either if they dont stop pushing us like they do now..
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Well, I guess I'll leave this conversation for now with, "Sometimes the worst things are done with the best of intentions." You know? I really don't think, particularly in the begining, that McEwen and company meant to do many of the things they ended up doing.
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Targhan wrote:
Well, I guess I'll leave this conversation for now with, "Sometimes the worst things are done with the best of intentions." You know? I really don't think, particularly in the begining, that McEwen and company meant to do many of the things they ended up doing.
Well......... No one plans on being a complete failure in business do they? ;-)