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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: wa9yoz on December 16, 2007, 02:07:28 AM

Title: Opera on the Amiga system?
Post by: wa9yoz on December 16, 2007, 02:07:28 AM
Doh! Looks like the European Union is suing Microshaft again!. Hope they win and if they do, will Opera be available on the Amiga platform? just curious...Tony
Title: Re: Opera on the Amiga system?
Post by: A1260 on December 16, 2007, 02:11:11 AM
if you cant convert/program it for the amiga then i think its best not to ask these questions....
Title: Re: Opera on the Amiga system?
Post by: AMC258 on December 16, 2007, 02:18:07 AM
What the heck does Opera have to do with the EU and M$?  Am I missing something?

@A1260:
Much agreed.  There is too much of that going on around here.  I honestly don't believe yapping about it is going to convince someone who can/will do it to do it if they aren't already.  OS4 on Mac and all that.

That said, with OS4 gone 'classic', maybe we have enough of a market that we can get Opera.  I'd sure rather see IBrowse get updated though.
Title: Re: Opera on the Amiga system?
Post by: Trev on December 16, 2007, 03:45:53 AM
If someone ports a decent JRE (Java ME?), the Java version of Opera would run. Lots of coding to do. Keep your eye on the WebKit AROS port. If the user interface is implemented in a portable or at least modular fashion, a port to Amiga OS is certainly a possibility.

Trev
Title: Re: Opera on the Amiga system?
Post by: weirdami on December 16, 2007, 04:33:47 AM
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A1260 wrote:
if you cant convert/program it for the amiga then i think its best not to ask these questions....


is it best to ask these questions while you're in the process of converting/programming something? :crazy:

The answer to the question about Opera is that there was, years and years ago, either a project or just a lot of talk about a project to port Opera to Amiga. Then, nothing happened, as far as I know. Certainly, if it had been done, this thread would have been two posts long. The second post containing a link to where it could be obtained.
Title: Re: Opera on the Amiga system?
Post by: sdyates on December 16, 2007, 04:38:21 AM
Is anyone using the latest version of iBrowse?
Title: Re: Opera on the Amiga system?
Post by: actung_bab on December 16, 2007, 06:28:57 AM
well u can get mini opera running on most cell phones

so l dont really understand why its such problem getting decent web browser on the amiga.
it whould really make me use my amiga ppc everday like l used too. then u be looking at updating more software and making the amiga platform worth investing in.
 :getmad:
Title: Re: Opera on the Amiga system?
Post by: skurk on December 16, 2007, 09:57:02 AM
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AMC258 wrote:
OS4 on Mac and all that.


You know, it is theoretically possible. It's written for the right processor (PowerPC), so it's "just" a matter of installing it and getting a whole bunch of device drivers right.

People once laughed when they said OSX would run on Intel hardware, too.  Remember?
Title: Re: Opera on the Amiga system?
Post by: odin on December 16, 2007, 10:06:56 AM
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AMC258 wrote:
What the heck does Opera have to do with the EU and M$?  Am I missing something?

I think Opera moaned at the EU about IExploiter being evil or something. Google will know more.

Anyway, Opera's a closed source program and an AmigaOS native version of it will never happen unless the OS fairy turns OS4 into a commercially viable platform again.
Title: Re: Opera on the Amiga system?
Post by: HenryCase on December 16, 2007, 11:47:50 AM
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wa9yoz wrote:
Doh! Looks like the European Union is suing Microshaft again!. Hope they win and if they do, will Opera be available on the Amiga platform? just curious...Tony


Let me guess, you saw this on Slashdot? In any case, you clearly didn't read TFA. Opera could be ported to Amiga, the developers don't need Microsoft's permission. The complaint made was all about whether Microsoft was abusing their position in the Windows world.

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odin wrote:
Anyway, Opera's a closed source program and an AmigaOS native version of it will never happen unless the OS fairy turns OS4 into a commercially viable platform again.


Not entirely accurate. The Opera developers will port the browser to any platform providing it's feasible and you pay them enough money. That's why it's available for such diverse platforms (IBM PC, mobile phones, Nintendo DS, etc...). The issue is the Amiga community would have to raise the funds for the port, and considering we are getting some better web browsers soon (Sputnik, Traveller) I don't think many people would see the need.

If you do see the need, feel free to contact them to ask how much it would cost.
Title: Re: Opera on the Amiga system?
Post by: Argus on December 16, 2007, 12:50:08 PM
Isn't Aweb already open source?  That's where the community should focus, imho.
Title: Re: Opera on the Amiga system?
Post by: huronking on December 16, 2007, 01:00:57 PM
I thought there was an initiative to port Opera to the
Amiga back in like 1996-97 but the Amiga community
ultimately failed to muster the support.

 
Title: Re: Opera on the Amiga system?
Post by: HenryCase on December 16, 2007, 02:11:32 PM
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Argus wrote:
Isn't Aweb already open source?  That's where the community should focus, imho.


Aweb may be open source, but as far as I can tell development is quite slow. Hopefully development will speed up soon. In the mean time, the most exciting browser development is being done for Traveller, which will also be open source. You can track development here:
http://cataclysm.cx/

I hope Aweb and Traveller merge into one project, which is possible if Aweb moves to the WebKit rendering engine.