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Title: Bios problem with a big HDD
Post by: Agafaster on December 06, 2007, 02:34:55 PM
I have a Viglen P3/450 I recently had to replace the hard disk on - its the kids PC, not mine! The smallest disk I could find was an 80GB PATA. unfortunately, the BIOS (award IIRC - its at home, I'm not !) didnt recognise it, and I had to jumper the HDD down - via the '32GB clip' jumper setting. now I have 48GB thats doing nowt !

is there something I can do in the interim before I get round to upgrading to a more modern mobo ?

If I attempt to install Debian 4.0 Etch Linux (off a DVD I have), will it see what the BIOS doesnt ?

Can I reflash to a more modern BIOS or summat ?

Ta !
Title: Re: Bios problem with a big HDD
Post by: meega on December 06, 2007, 03:17:50 PM
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Agafaster wrote:
 now I have 48GB thats doing nowt !

is there something I can do in the interim before I get round to upgrading to a more modern mobo ?


You can send that 48GB to me Aga. :lol:
Title: Re: Bios problem with a big HDD
Post by: Homer on December 06, 2007, 03:30:19 PM
I remember that the hard drive manufacturers used to do extra software for mobo's that couldn't see the full size of the drive. Certainly worth a look (unless as you state there is already a BIOS update that covers this issue).
Title: Re: Bios problem with a big HDD
Post by: Zac67 on December 06, 2007, 07:48:32 PM
Two options:
- either get an updated (manufacturer)/patched BIOS
- use disk manager style software (usually from HDD manufacturer) that works around the BIOS bug

Title: Re: Bios problem with a big HDD
Post by: Oliver on December 07, 2007, 10:45:26 AM
Quite often, BIOS updates can take care of that issue. It depends on the manufacturer though.

Linux may be able to see the whole disk (not sure though), but I think a lot of boot loaders can only access what the BIOS reports.
Title: Re: Bios problem with a big HDD
Post by: Agafaster on December 07, 2007, 12:03:33 PM
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meega wrote:
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Agafaster wrote:
 now I have 48GB thats doing nowt !

is there something I can do in the interim before I get round to upgrading to a more modern mobo ?


You can send that 48GB to me Aga. :lol:


Meega mate, if I could, I would.


At a price of course ! ;-)
Title: Re: Bios problem with a big HDD
Post by: Agafaster on December 07, 2007, 12:06:05 PM
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Oliver wrote:
Quite often, BIOS updates can take care of that issue. It depends on the manufacturer though.

Linux may be able to see the whole disk (not sure though), but I think a lot of boot loaders can only access what the BIOS reports.


still, that would be no different to when we were first installing Debian on A1's using RDB schema - I just put the boot partition in the lower 32 gig, surely ?

I'll see if Viglen, or the BIOS peeps have ote.

Thanks all !
Title: Re: Bios problem with a big HDD
Post by: Oliver on December 07, 2007, 02:07:38 PM
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Agafaster wrote:I just put the boot partition in the lower 32 gig, surely ?
Quite right. Just something to be aware of. You could try a live CD, and check if your partition manager can access the whole disk.
Title: Re: Bios problem with a big HDD
Post by: Invisix on December 08, 2007, 08:43:53 AM
I'm not quite sure if this software will work on such a large HDD, but have you ever tried EZ-Drive? You can also look for MaxBlast which is an OEM relabled EZ-Drive software that shipped with Maxtor hard drives. What it does is create an overlay that bypasses the BIOS limitations. I would send you a copy, but alas this modern day PC doesn't have a floppy drive (damn modern day non-legacy supporting PC's grrrr!)

Alternatively you can buy an ATA-xxx (xxx denotes the ATA speed of the hard drive) adapter card that fits in a PCI slot. Those also provide large hard drive support for systems with BIOS limiations.
Title: Re: Bios problem with a big HDD
Post by: Ferry on December 08, 2007, 12:35:27 PM
@agafaster

http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/support/downloads/

Saluditos,

Ferrán.