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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: A4000_Mad on November 30, 2007, 08:35:38 PM
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With the release of OS4 I'm interested to know how many PPC's are out there.
Do you have a Blizzard or a Cyberstorm? What have you enjoyed using it for so far?
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Yeah, I've got 2 BlizzardPPCs.. one of them is dead, keeping it for spare parts. I have got an A4000 too with CyberstormPPC. I've enjoyed both machines a LOT! What I've enjoyed the most of the PPC in particular is datatypes, picture manipulation, mp3 players and emulators, etc.
Waiting for OS 4!
Cheers
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A4000_Mad wrote:
With the release of OS4... Do you have a Blizzard or a Cyberstorm?
no and not interested... I enjoy fooling around with my A2000/60 as a way of feeling young again and just for pure fun... but the platform is dead - lets face it :roll:
Tom UK
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No but I want a CSPPC for my A4000, if only I could afford it :-(
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moto
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I have two blizzards and 3 cyberstorms. :roll:
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No. :bigcry:
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Around here (Canada) PPCs and 060s are as rare as hen's teeth, so I'm always amazed when you Europeans say you have 2 or 3 of them.
I just have an 040 (which has served me very well).
I was thinking, there are probably only about 2500 working PPC boards still around in the world, and less in use. This is just a guess, of course.
So that really caps the number of OS4.0 copies that will be sold - unless a new board is released.
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phase 5 BlizzardPPC @ 210MHz + BlizzardVisionPPC. Looking forward to first experiencess of OS4 for classic Amigas as I haven't been able to get MorphOS working on my card.
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Yip got two of them a 060/160 and a 060/240 with scsi. Only use the 240 for playing nightlong and Q2 and dont have any intentions of buying os4.
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I have had 3 BPPCs but only have one working now though..
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Unfortunately not. When they were available, I could not afford them at the time. Now I could but they are not available :getmad: (not counting second hands, overpriced, possibly not working ones on ebay and such).
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Hi.
I have two Cyberstorm PPC cards for A4000.
68060@50mhz and PPC604e@200mhz
68060@60mhz and PPC604e@233mhz
Both Blizzard card.
:-)
Just sold a BlizzardPPC+ for a1200
68060@50mhz and PPC603@240mhz
with onboard SCSI.
I sold it, beause I never used it.
And give others a opportunity to try OS4.
:-)
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nope. i have a towered 40. but i have an old copy of amiga format with a rather amusing cover of superman with ppc on his chest with the tittle "will ppc save the amiga?" or similar must be from 1998... and lots of pictures of ben vost looking like he needs the toilet bad. i wonder where he is today! i would like to see the return of a paper mag too!
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check my signature
anyway:
http://powerup.amigaworld.de/index.php?lang=en&page=39
this is on 18.09.2007, and contains only who is registered his card on this web page.
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I've got a 603e 240Mhz and a Bvision in my A1200... but I very much doubt It will ever run OS4... I simply don't want to waste money on a useless piece of software.
I also have a Power G4 1.5Ghz but that will be running Leopard next month :-)
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I have 2 phase5 csppc's, one 200 and the other 233mhz, both 060/50 ...
I am enjoying them ATM, they are just brilliant... can't wait for my copy of OS4 to arrive... if only they added g-rex4000 support so I can use it on both my 4000's...
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I got 1 CSPPC at 233MHz and 1 BPPC at 233 MHz
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2 Cyberstorm PPC's here, one is a 060/60 604e/233 in my A4000 mediator tower
Other is a 060/50 604e/200,originally a 040 board that i converted.
I use them for everything from viewing mpeg video,audio,datatypes,pdf viewing,vhi studio,fxpain and scan. looking forward to os4 "IF" it really is released. Hope for some decent mediator support.
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I just can't understand what kind of release is this amiga os 4.0 .I have an amiga 1200 with an apollo 68040 and 16mbytes of ram.I would love to have an ppc amiga but money is an issue for me.
I would NOT give 1000 euros for an A1 machine.(on ebay usually that is the price it goes).Or give 400+ euros for an old ppc that runs at 200/233 mhz.
Is the new sam ever going to support amiga os 4.0 ?What is going on with the licence from hyperion?
If sam supports os 4.0 i might consider to get.Otherwise i am better with my windows xp sp2 machine,and uae and aros.
Also in the greatest moment of amiga history after the close of commodore,what is Amiga inc doing?They are making releases of Amiga games on pocket pc and windows instead of making new machines?
Hyperion guys are heroes...Amiga inc is the same terrible guys we know...
too bad.......
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I too would never spend $500US for a used, ten year old PPC card that had been through the hands of several owners.
I might pay that though for a brand new card --- come on new hardware!
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ral-clan wrote:
I too would never spend $500US for a used, ten year old PPC card that had been through the hands of several owners.
I might pay that though for a brand new card --- come on new hardware!
Do you honestly think you could buy a NEW card for 500 bucks, even if they were being manufactured?
It'd be nice, but I seriously doubt it!
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nikodr wrote:
I would NOT give 1000 euros for an A1 machine.(on ebay usually that is the price it goes).Or give 400+ euros for an old ppc that runs at 200/233 mhz.
If an MKII 060 Cyberstorm (http://cgi.ebay.com/Amiga-Cyberstorm-MKII-68060-128mb-Accelerator-3000-4000_W0QQitemZ260186596768QQihZ016QQcategoryZ4598QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) can sell for this kind of Dollaridge, It will be someone elses money that does! ;-)
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Yess...
Look at my signature
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I recently bought A1200 bppc&bvision for 180 eur. Unfortunatley I haven't used it much yet due to heating problems inside dektop a1200.
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yes, i paid £155 for mine (ebay) :-D
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Have a BPPC.
Use the Miggy as my main machine so it gets used for everything that will use it.
Have ordered OS4.0, so it will be interesting to see what the performance is like compared to OS3.9.
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Kin-Hell wrote:
ral-clan wrote:
I too would never spend $500US for a used, ten year old PPC card that had been through the hands of several owners.
I might pay that though for a brand new card --- come on new hardware!
Do you honestly think you could buy a NEW card for 500 bucks, even if they were being manufactured?
It'd be nice, but I seriously doubt it!
Well, what you are missing is the fact that these old 060/PPC boards are selling for such high prices on Ebay is precisely because they are no longer being manufactured. Therefore they are rare, and there is a clamour for one every time it appears in an auction. Hence: madness.
The inflated Ebay prices do not reflect that actual manufacturing cost to do a run of modern PPC cards using current components.
Having newly made PPC boards on the market might even bring some sanity back to the prices for the old PPC boards - as there wouldn't be as much demand.
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Kin-Hell wrote:
nikodr wrote:
I would NOT give 1000 euros for an A1 machine.(on ebay usually that is the price it goes).Or give 400+ euros for an old ppc that runs at 200/233 mhz.
If an MKII 060 Cyberstorm (http://cgi.ebay.com/Amiga-Cyberstorm-MKII-68060-128mb-Accelerator-3000-4000_W0QQitemZ260186596768QQihZ016QQcategoryZ4598QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) can sell for this kind of Dollaridge, It will be someone elses money that does! ;-)
With the Crap dollar exchange rate it isn't any more than cards I have sold in the past in British pounds or Euros.
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Hi
Amiga 4000D - Phase 5: Cyberstorm PPC604e@233Mhz/060@50Mhz, Cybervision PPC, CV3D Scandoubler AND 144MB, 60GB IDE Harddrive, OS3.9 KS3.1
And yes i will buy OS4 sooooon :-)
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No ! :-(
And i don't think i'll be getting one in a hurry the wife watches me like a hawk :-D
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I have a few machines but no PPC. I can afford to buy it but I think its just silly to spend $500+ on a old card that may blow and not be repairable.
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I could not afford these rare pieces of hardware when they were manufactured nor can I now.
Do you guys really think there could be a possibility for new hardware due to OS4?
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I have a BPPC
A1200T Blizzard 603e+ BPPC 180mhz, 68060 60mhz, 256mb RAM. 4GB IDE HDD, 9GB SCSI HDD, IDE CDRW OS3.9 Mediator LT4 Voodoo 3 P96 GFX card, SB128, PCI Ethernet.
Want to buy os4 but I am concerned about NO SCSI, NO Ethernet and NO Sound Card..... :-(
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AMIGAZ wrote:
Look at my signature
OMG, I think somebody stole your sig! :-)
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Do you have a Blizzard or a Cyberstorm?
Yes, I bought a new DCE Cyberstorm (060@50/604@233) and it was nothing but trouble, it died about 18 months after I bought it. (After having it replaced three times under warrenty)
Last month I sent it to the Amiga Center in France and he says he has fixed it, fingers crossed it will arrive today. :D
When it was working I really only used it for datatype loading, playing payback and Quake and I was just starting to play around with Amp2 when it died. :(
I will give it a couple of months testing and then get OS4 if I think the card is going to last.
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ral-can wrote:
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The inflated Ebay prices do not reflect that actual manufacturing cost to do a run of modern PPC cards using current components.
But you're wrong & missed the fact that a 604e @ 200Mhz sold for £262 on eBay only weeks ago. This is NOT an inflated price! Same {bleep} happened with a G-Rex
ral-can wrote:
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Having newly made PPC boards on the market might even bring some sanity back to the prices for the old PPC boards - as there wouldn't be as much demand.
This kinda contradicts itself buying a 604e for £262. It really is a buyers market on eBay. Some weeks better than others. Just depends how many people are wanting at that particular time of sale.
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Nope. Still waiting Berndt Binder to show!
JaX
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Great! Some of you have been posting the full specs of your awesome machines 8-)
@ amiga9250
It looks like you have the most PPC's with 5 :-o
I've just started runing OS4 in an A4000 with Phase 5 CyberstormPPC 604e 233Mhz & 060/50 :banana:
If you need me, I'll be HERE (http://os4depot.net/) :-D
:cheers:
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Yes
Ive got a 175/603e, 040/25
And a Gamecube
And a Wii
so thats theee PPC chips :-D
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I understand the high prices of Amiga stuff but for me the retro-computing/collecting has always been hunting down computers for cheap or even for free. If I had all the money of world I could buy all the computers but it wouldn't be the same thing anymore.
I always get awesome kicks when I manage to find an old and cool computer from someone attic or for free from recycling center. I have a such recycling place near to my home and I have been digging there retro stuff from piles in size of two storey houses! Dozens of C64s, Amigas, Amstrads, etc. just lying around,totally unbelievable! :-o
Of course sometimes I buy stuff in big bucks (like a new Mediator for A1200, from AmigaKit BTW!) but that is always when I have been hunting it for a couple of months or even years without results. I paid for my BPPC + alot ram 100e and it has worked perfectly (ok at first I got some HW problems but not anymore) and I hunted it for 1½ years (to get a BPPC at reasonable price).
Damn, Amigas are like women; first you can't understand them, then you love them and then they'll leave you! :-(
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No, unfortunately I don't have any PPC cards.
However, like others have said even if I did feel the urgent need to run OS4 on something I probably wouldn't invest in one of those rare old cards at this stage.
It's just a feasibility thing - the OS4 for Classic situation would have been a different story if it happened 5,6 or 7 years ago. Now it is almost a joke.
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I understand what you are saying. But after waiting all this time I'd prefer to laugh at the joke it has been rather than feel the insulted sucker that I would have felt had it never been released at all.
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Motorola 603p @ 240
Freescale MPC5200B @ 400
IBM 750CXe @ 600
Freescale 7447 @ 1000
They run MorphOS though.
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A4000_Mad wrote:
Great! Some of you have been posting the full specs of your awesome machines 8-)
@ amiga9250
It looks like you have the most PPC's with 5 :-o
I've just started runing OS4 in an A4000 with Phase 5 CyberstormPPC 604e 233Mhz & 060/50 :banana:
If you need me, I'll be HERE (http://os4depot.net/) :-D
:cheers:
Still waiting for OS 4.0. Amigakit shipped last week.
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I got a BPPC 060/210/SCSI with BVision setup and a CSPPC 060/200 with CVision setup. currently considering scratching the BPPC setup but it has more ram than the CSPPC so kind of confused ... I placed an order for OS4 which I hope to pay for in a few days.
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Now it is almost a joke.
Only thing that is joke in OS4 is that it tries to be a commercial product. I bet that no one would whine about it if OS4 were just an opensource OS-project for very rare computers (which BPPC-Amigas are).
Is the OS4 pointless and useless for most of the people (for those who don't have PPC-Amiga)? Yeah sure, but so what?
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I've not got a ppc card, but thinking about buying OS 4.0 anyway, just in case it's not available in future if i upgrade.
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A4000_Mad wrote:
I understand what you are saying. But after waiting all this time I'd prefer to laugh at the joke it has been rather than feel the insulted sucker that I would have felt had it never been released at all.
I wasn't really referring to you (sorry, I know you're the OP). You already owned one of those things - that's different. To you it's just a cool extra for £60.. which is fair enough. :-)
But to the users who don't own one already, if they really want to run the OS it's more like £360+ which is a joke for an OS like this, especially considering that the card is pre-owned, old and prolly had many users!
Someone mentioned above about it trying to be commercial which is the joke - well I agree but what is even worse is that it doesn't even do the commercial thing fully by there not being either enough PPC cards or AmigaOnes to go around.
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Piru wrote:
Motorola 603p @ 240
Freescale MPC5200B @ 400
IBM 750CXe @ 600
Freescale 7447 @ 1000
They run MorphOS though.
It's on my 'To do' list to check out this MorphOS. Prehaps an A4000 that could boot into OS3.9, OS4 or MorphOS :idea:
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sold away Bppc 175/040 128mb 2 years ago :)
but ihave 400mmhz Samsung PPC prosessor in
in My HTC TYTN Pocket PC :)
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I have Peg II G4 1Ghz
Though it isn't running anything untill I get my MorphOS registeration trough.
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tekopaa wrote:
sold away Bppc 175/040 128mb 2 years ago :)
but ihave 400mmhz Samsung PPC prosessor in My HTC TYTN Pocket PC :)
No, you have an ARM in there... not a PPC.
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No BZPPC or CSPPC, but...
* 1.25Ghz 7447 v1.2 (Mac Mini G4).
* Turbo601 PPC: http://web.archive.org/web/19970615192834/http://www.daystar.com/Upgrades/Trb601.html (for Mac IIs - the equivalent of a BZPPC or CSPPC - MUCH more rare than either of those. Got two! I'd trade one for a CSPPC or BZPPC, but hardcore Mac fans are few and far in between, hehehe)
* Bunch of G3 Macs and accelerator boards. If you're in need, let me know.
Now, if I had an Amiga PPC board I'd use it primarily for OS4.0, MorphOS, programming (probably something OpenGLish, datatypes/decoders/encoders, drivers, porting from Linux-world or other open source stuff, secret trans-gaming project), and of course media playback (music, video), Doom & Quake.
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Yep. I'll use it for tracker, music making that I've always done on the Amiga. I may look into some programming (web) if I can get things to run satisfactorily.
Beside my specs below I run these bits too:
Pro MIDI interface (2 outs, 2 thru, 1 in)
DVD Rom
4 way buffered IDE interface
160 GB IDE Drive
Oh yeah and now running both 3.9 and 4.0C Amiga OS
:lotsacoffee: