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Title: AmigaOS 4.0 for Classic Amiga available now!!!!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 27, 2007, 12:41:11 AM
So now just wait for Hypes explanation that Amiga OS4 is not late it was actually completed in 2003 but some evil force in outer space held Hermans hostage and treathened to kill him if they released it. Eventually Hermans escaped and killed the aliens and that's why they could release it FINALLY.

TehH Am1ga!1! Rul3Z!1  :-D
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 27, 2007, 11:28:59 PM
3 days left!!!......  :-D
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: kd7ota on November 28, 2007, 12:07:21 AM
I will see how it goes when its released.  Maybe someone will post a youtube video running it.
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on November 28, 2007, 12:31:22 AM
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A1260 wrote:
3 days left!!!......  :-D


Only 2 days left in the UK now :-D

:cheers:
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Dragster on November 28, 2007, 02:50:16 AM
Copy ordered! Can't wait to try it!! :-D
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amiga92570 on November 28, 2007, 04:04:13 AM
I will post one if I can get my son over here to film it. I have a pre-order from amigakit due shortly. I don't own a video camera. All that high tech junk gives me the jeepers.
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Lurch on November 28, 2007, 04:19:21 AM
/sigh or old skool afew things holding me back from buying :(

1) I live in New Zealand
2) I would have to source and buy an A1200
3) I would have to source and buy a PPC card

Plus the outlay cash wise would make all the above a very expensive exercise.

I long for the days when one could walk into the local computer store and purchase Amiga gear off the shelf.

On that note I have been noticing a huge increase in Mac stores, especially in malls. A sign of things to come? :-)
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 28, 2007, 12:22:47 PM
isnt new zeland 5 or 8 years behind the rest of the world?.. then there should not be no problem getting cheap amiga's and stuff....
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: ddniUK on November 28, 2007, 12:43:38 PM
Does anyone here have an awful fear that this is gonna be pirated on day 1, accrue no sales and see Hyperion wash its hands of the Amiga scene forever????
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amigakit on November 28, 2007, 01:08:50 PM
@Lurch

We have quite a few customers in New Zealand and regularly ship there.
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 28, 2007, 01:40:23 PM
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by ddniUK on 2007/11/28 6:43:38

Does anyone here have an awful fear that this is gonna be pirated on day 1, accrue no sales and see Hyperion wash its hands of the Amiga scene forever????


its one thing you must understand when it comes to pirates, they want mainstream things and access to cheap hw.... aos4.0 and the amiga hw is none of that. if you want aos4.0 that bad, so you throw your months salary on a rare ppc card. your a fanboi and dont pirate...
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Colani1200 on November 28, 2007, 01:49:24 PM
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ddniUK wrote:
Does anyone here have an awful fear that this is gonna be pirated on day 1, accrue no sales and see Hyperion wash its hands of the Amiga scene forever????

Of course it will be pirated like everything else, just look around... But I am quite confident most people will still buy the original nevertheless. The Amigans know pretty well that development will only continue when they support it financially.
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: LoadWB on November 28, 2007, 01:49:48 PM
I'm in the mood to make a road-trip and break the fsck'n knee caps of any fsck'er who would pirate OS4 and cause such a situation.
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 28, 2007, 01:51:08 PM
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by amigakit on 2007/11/28 7:08:50

@Lurch

We have quite a few customers in New Zealand and regularly ship there.


as i suspected, there must be a gold mine of cheap ppc card over there...
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 28, 2007, 01:55:59 PM
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by Colani1200 on 2007/11/28 7:49:24

Of course it will be pirated like everything else, just look around... But I am quite confident most people will still buy the original nevertheless. The Amigans know pretty well that development will only continue when they support it financially.


why in your wildes fantasy do you think this will happen, there is nearly no hw to run it on and the ones that have a ppc card are amiga fanbois, and these fanbois are buying it, period!...

pirates like windows and pirate that.... there is nothing to gain in pirating aos4.0, period!  
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: ddniUK on November 28, 2007, 02:18:24 PM
Now I have a BPPC and will buy my copy of os4.0

But,weren't we all Amiga fan boys back in the day? I wager that fandom didn't stop most of us gathering up a few dodgy floppies along the way...

Today, given the number of posts I see about non working WHDload installs (mainly due to pirate keyfiles) My faith in the Amiga community to wholeheartedly support current, active and developing software is limited.

Bear in mind, the tiny number of potential classic PPC customers, means that even a small loss to piracy could mean the difference between a profit or loss situation for Hyperion. That is assuming of course that a profit is even possible given the man years it has taken to get the product out of the door.

MY MESSAGE IS: DON'T PIRATE OS4 CLASSIC
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on November 28, 2007, 03:01:41 PM
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Bear in mind, the tiny number of potential classic PPC customers, means that even a small loss to piracy could mean the difference between a profit or loss situation for Hyperion. That is assuming of course that a profit is even possible given the man years it has taken to get the product out of the door.

MY MESSAGE IS: DON'T PIRATE OS4 CLASSIC


I second that opinion of course. Now that we're finally going to get OS4, it would be crazy to shoot ourselves in the foot and end up getting no updates and support. In fact, I may insist on paying for it twice :-D  :pint:
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: motorollin on November 28, 2007, 03:11:01 PM
I'm almost tempted to buy it even though I don't have a PPC card, just in case some crazy foo decides to sell a PPC card on the cheap ;-)

--
moto
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Akiko on November 28, 2007, 03:49:29 PM
Pirates suck and should be named and shamed were possible!

please support Amiga developers and retailers!  :-)
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: spihunter on November 28, 2007, 04:00:56 PM
@motorollin,

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'm almost tempted to buy it even though I don't have a PPC card, just in case some crazy foo decides to sell a PPC card on the cheap



I was thinking of buying a copy as well just in case I ever end up with PPC hardware again.
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: AccyD on November 28, 2007, 08:44:06 PM
Jeez guys - the rate we're going we'll end up with more copies of OS4 classic sold than there are PPC cards!!  :-D
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: adonay on November 28, 2007, 08:48:06 PM
I will buy 1 copy at first and if i use the os very day and like it i wil buy one more ,,,
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on November 28, 2007, 11:00:11 PM
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spihunter wrote:
I was thinking of buying a copy as well just in case I ever end up with PPC hardware again


I think you would be very wise to do that. If you got a PPC and then couldn't get OS4, you would be feeling as a lot of us have felt over the past few years.

Only a couple of months or so ago it looked like we would never get OS4 for the classic Amigas. But now it's all very exciting stuff :banana:

Hey! In just over an hour someone could start a thread titled '1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!'  8-) :pint:
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 28, 2007, 11:04:11 PM
its one day left!!!!!!!! get ready to reclaim the streets and kick down the doors!!!!!!

 :-D
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on November 28, 2007, 11:07:57 PM
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/homer-doh.jpg)

You must have changed the thread title while I was typing  :laughing:

:cheers:
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Boot_WB on November 28, 2007, 11:10:59 PM
Heh, I ordered in advance as soon as it hit the Amigakit online store. :-)
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: arkanoid on November 29, 2007, 12:26:29 AM
exciting, for those with classic PPCs.

Look forward to seeing the YouTube videos of it in action at least ;-) Does anyone intend to do this??
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 29, 2007, 12:37:59 AM
go buy it anyway, i am and i dont have a ppc. maybe i buy two copies to, just to give my support for this great product. :)

when we get this new aos4.0 going, new ppc cards for the classic will come, dont worry about that :)
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A6000 on November 29, 2007, 12:42:29 AM
Just something to consider.

If Amiga Inc win their court case against hyperion, then all these copies of AOS 4.0 will be illegal pirate copies.
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: huronking on November 29, 2007, 12:54:23 AM
Maybe but Hyperion would be the only party able to pay
it's own lawyers.

I'm gonna order one too.
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: mikrucio on November 29, 2007, 12:57:13 AM
Yeah im gonna order one. Frame it and put it into a clear plastic box. and stand it in the middle of my living room.
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Fixer on November 29, 2007, 12:59:03 AM
I still find it annoying that you have to buy this old expensive very specific type of card to run it, but at least the classic users now finally have something they can get their teeth in to!
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 29, 2007, 01:03:39 AM
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by Fixer on 2007/11/28 18:59:03

I still find it annoying that you have to buy this old expensive very specific type of card to run it, but at least the classic users now finally have something they can get their teeth in to!


dont worry when aos4.0 is out the door, i am 100% sure there also will come a new ppc card for the a4000/a1200, it will takes some time to make but i am sure it will come... so just get your hands on a copy ;)
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Einstein on November 29, 2007, 01:26:17 AM
Is it really necessary to start a new topic each day ?  :roll:
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Ferry on November 29, 2007, 01:51:47 AM
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ddniUK wrote:

But,weren't we all Amiga fan boys back in the day? I wager that fandom didn't stop most of us gathering up a few dodgy floppies along the way...


If you are trying to say that piracy killed the Amiga, you are quite wrong, I'd say. Commodore never sold software, at least not as a software company but as a side-product, its main business was hardware, so piracy would have been even "good" for them: since soft was "easy to obtain", more people would have bought the hardware needed to run it. This has happened to many other platforms: PC, Playstation, even Mac (it was told about Mac that they even gave some sort of "carte blanch" to University students to "pass software around", in the believing that they would then buy a Mac to use it).

Of course, I'm NOT defending piracy, but those concepts shouldn't be mixed. And we all know the cause of the Commodore demise: awful management, including nearly no investment in Amiga promotion and advertising, or announcing a new model while they still had a large stock of the old one (A600 vs A1200).

Saluditos,

Ferrán.
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Hans_ on November 29, 2007, 02:24:22 AM
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A6000 wrote:
Just something to consider.

If Amiga Inc win their court case against hyperion, then all these copies of AOS 4.0 will be illegal pirate copies.


I doubt it. If Amiga Inc win, then its up to Hyperion to compensate them for all the copies they sold. That's their job, not ours.

Hans
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Lurch on November 29, 2007, 02:44:43 AM
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A1260 wrote:
isnt new zeland 5 or 8 years behind the rest of the world?.. then there should not be no problem getting cheap amiga's and stuff....


LOL sometimes it feels like that, especially with our internet connections but alas no luck :)

Amiga hardware is hard to come by :D

Quote

amigakit wrote:
@Lurch

We have quite a few customers in New Zealand and regularly ship there.


Would love to purchase stuff from overseas but that would require a credit card I'm guessing? Plus the shipping would be quite high? Will be checking out a few computer boot sales in the future hopefully will try my luck that way :)
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: ZEUS on November 29, 2007, 04:21:40 AM


Oh! too late Hyperion too late sadly :madashell:  I`m waiting too much getting work with os4 classic but not happened I sell my bppc 2 months ago.. I hope it will work good for u all survivers  :-P   u think is over? u`re wrong! the game just began for amiga again  :-D
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: ddniUK on November 29, 2007, 08:03:56 AM
@ Ferry, your assumption is wrong.

My point is that the Amiga community was generally involved in wholesale software piracy.
That activity, kills commercial software production.
What effect a lack of software has on a platform I leave to you to decide...

My feelings are that a lack of profit for small software houses, with increasingly decrepit hardware and intransigent "I want it all on my 512k A500" users crippled the Amiga... It ain't dead yet!

Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Bamiga2002 on November 29, 2007, 08:24:46 AM
1 day :D! Sadly i must delay my buy for some days, because my salary arrives only then...
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: McVenco on November 29, 2007, 08:52:24 AM
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Einstein wrote:
Is it really necessary to start a new topic each day ?  :roll:


The topic is the same. Only the title is changed by the topic starter :-)

I'm not going to buy a copy of OS4. I have no PPC card anymore and don't plan to buy one back in the future either, unless someone gives me one for free :-)
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: dammy on November 29, 2007, 11:49:41 AM
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I doubt it. If Amiga Inc win, then its up to Hyperion to compensate them for all the copies they sold. That's their job, not ours.


And Hyperion then has to pay for AI's lawyers as well.  I wouldn't be too shocked to see an emergency appeal for relief being filed on the day OS4 goes on sale.   Now I do wonder, will this mean Hyperion will pay all those third party devs that were suppost to be paid at OS4 release?

Dammy
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: EDS.bod on November 29, 2007, 11:52:01 AM
I've ordered a copy and i don't even have an Amiga anymore (CDTV and A1200 Tower sold in 2004).

Bought it just because I think Hyperion deserve the support.  Maybe if I see an A1200 + PPC on ebay I'll snatch it up.
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: spirantho on November 29, 2007, 12:02:44 PM
Not only have I pre-ordered this (despite having a fully working A1 too) I've just gone and bought some new toys for my A4000 to celebrate.

Let the good times roll!!! (for once!)
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Jeff on November 29, 2007, 12:10:23 PM
I have a nice collection of classic Amiga's also ranging from the 1000 all the way to the A4000T and not one of them has the hardware needed to run OS4.0. Nevertheless I also pre-ordered my copy from Amigakit.

Hopefully someone will come up with a way to either make this version run on other hardware, or create new available hardware that it will run on.

Jeff
Title: Re: 3 days until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amiga92570 on November 29, 2007, 02:32:18 PM
Jeff doesn't have a PPC card :-?
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Einstein on November 29, 2007, 03:32:59 PM
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McVenco wrote:
Quote

Einstein wrote:
Is it really necessary to start a new topic each day ?  :roll:


The topic is the same. Only the title is changed by the topic starter :-)


That's the thing.

For your own sake, it's kinda more practical to have one single topic so those interested (not me, yet congrats) have all comments gathered in one place.
Anyway!
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on November 29, 2007, 04:22:51 PM
Erm... All of our comments are gathered in the one place, this one :-D
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: TiredOLife on November 29, 2007, 04:56:00 PM
1 day to go?
Not for us, the users.
We will have to wait for the likes of Amigakit etc to send them on.
Released on a Friday, so can't see them being sent out until Monday.
Another couple of days after that, before we get our hands on it.  :-(
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 29, 2007, 05:26:15 PM
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by TiredOLife on 2007/11/29 10:56:00

1 day to go?
Not for us, the users.
We will have to wait for the likes of Amigakit etc to send them on. Released on a Friday, so can't see them being sent out until Monday. Another couple of days after that, before we get our hands on it.


by 1 day to go i mean it will be available to order/buy and not how long amigakit or the postman will take to send it to you... you get it?
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 29, 2007, 05:29:27 PM
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by Einstein on 2007/11/29 9:32:59

That's the thing.

For your own sake, it's kinda more practical to have one single topic so those interested (not me, yet congrats) have all comments gathered in one place.
Anyway!


excuse me if i am rude but you must have smoked your old socks or something. there is no new topic, its just changed and all the comments is gathered in one place....

 :roll:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: TiredOLife on November 29, 2007, 05:39:06 PM
I would have thought from my posting it was obvious that I do get it.
I was just making the point that it will be a few more days until the real fun begins.
Did you not get it?

Relax, it wasn't an attack on anyone.
Did you get out of the wrong side of bed this morning?
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amigadave on November 29, 2007, 05:48:57 PM
I know I am going to get flamed for this, but for other than those that have friends who suffered long and hard to create OS4, or those that are lovers of Hyperion (no matter what information has come out in the litigation), why would anyone want to buy OS4 when a very similar product has been available for many months for free?

Does Hyperion deserve my support after all this time and after all the lies (my perception) on both sides of the Amiga Inc. fight?

I just don't understand the fanatic purchases by some that can't even run OS4? :-?
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: TiredOLife on November 29, 2007, 05:55:36 PM
I'm not touching this one with a ten foot barge pole. ;-)
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 29, 2007, 06:06:52 PM
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by TiredOLife on 2007/11/29 11:39:06

I would have thought from my posting it was obvious that I do get it.
I was just making the point that it will be a few more days until the real fun begins.
Did you not get it?

Relax, it wasn't an attack on anyone.
Did you get out of the wrong side of bed this morning?


maybe i took it wrong but sorry for this it wasnt my intention to irritate anyone. i see now your a little impatient and that is understandable, its aos4.0 after all and the wait have been long for the classic :)
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: TiredOLife on November 29, 2007, 06:12:09 PM
A little impatient?
The suspense is killing me.
How sad am I?
I'd have been happier if the announcement had been made the day before it was released  :-D

No worries mate. :-)  
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 29, 2007, 06:15:15 PM
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by amigadave on 2007/11/29 11:48:57

I know I am going to get flamed for this, but for other than those that have friends who suffered long and hard to create OS4, or those that are lovers of Hyperion (no matter what information has come out in the litigation), why would anyone want to buy OS4 when a very similar product has been available for many months for free?

Does Hyperion deserve my support after all this time and after all the lies (my perception) on both sides of the Amiga Inc. fight?

I just don't understand the fanatic purchases by some that can't even run OS4?


you have your morphos good for you. we other want aos4.0 good for us, end of story, peroid!  
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Rob on November 29, 2007, 06:19:45 PM
@amigadave

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I just don't understand the fanatic purchases by some that can't even run OS4?


To some it may be seen as some sort of trophy or collectors piece.  People collect all sorts of things that they can't or don't use.
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 29, 2007, 06:36:08 PM
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by Rob on 2007/11/29 12:19:45

People collect all sorts of things that they can't or don't use.


i cant use it right now but if i get my hands on a bppc card or newer ppc cards, that will be made later on. it will be usefull...

but for now i buy it for the cool factor, the collection, the support and i can throw it in the face of the disbelievers and tell them "i told you so".. hahaha...  :-D
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on November 29, 2007, 06:55:52 PM
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Rob wrote:
To some it may be seen as some sort of trophy or collectors piece.


Agreed! I'm buying it partly as a trophy that says I've been a faithful Amigan for years. Had it never been released I would have felt insulted and made a sucker out of  :-)

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TiredOfLife wrote:
Did you get out of the wrong side of the bed


No-one is going to bed, we're all staying up to see in the New Gear :pint:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amigadave on November 29, 2007, 07:08:54 PM
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A1260 wrote:
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by Rob on 2007/11/29 12:19:45

People collect all sorts of things that they can't or don't use.


i cant use it right now but if i get my hands on a bppc card or newer ppc cards, that will be made later on. it will be usefull...

but for now i buy it for the cool factor, the collection, the support and i can throw it in the face of the disbelievers and tell them "i told you so".. hahaha...  :-D


thank you, that is more of an answer I was looking for.  I have no desire to start a "RED" vs "BLUE" fight here.  It is just that you must admit that OS4 and MorphOS are VERY similar and one is free, the other is going to cost you.

I have downloaded MorphOS, but have not installed or used it yet, so don't accuse me of being a MorphOS fanboy, I am not.  I have seen it demonstrated and it looked nice and fast, so I will probably try it out some time in the next few months, but it is not high on my agenda.

My statement was that I just don't understand the people that are so ........... excited, or dedicated to OS4 even if they don't have the hardware to run it.

You are free to have your opinion and your reasons for wanting OS4, I was just curious as to what some of those reasons might be.
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: motorollin on November 29, 2007, 07:21:23 PM
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A4000_Mad wrote:
No-one is going to bed, we're all staying up to see in the New Gear :pint:

New Gear's Eve :-)

--
moto
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Einstein on November 29, 2007, 07:25:43 PM
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A4000_Mad wrote:
Erm... All of our comments are gathered in the one place, this one :-D


Well well, then why the ¤?#%&¤& did the main page show both "1 day.." and "3 days.." at the same time yesterday ???
And no, I was not drunk then.
Still not as strange (and funny) as seeing folks repeatedly addressing themselves all the time.
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 29, 2007, 07:27:12 PM
@amigadave

it maybe similar and free but people dont want it, aos4.0 is the successor and that is the whole big thing. aos4.0 cost money but it dont cost an arm or an leg either, its cheap i would say. i hope you get your curiosity satisfied by reading this threat, it have the answers to your question after all...

now back to dreaming of my bought copy of aos4.0 for the classic!  :-D
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: derringer3 on November 29, 2007, 07:43:49 PM
morphos and os4:

i'm not interested who is the official successor or else. I wanted to try Morphos classic, but my hw was not supported. (mediator) If hyperion doesn't came with the relase of classic os4, i will surely boght a g-rex or an efika and usig mos now. But hyperion do that, so i chosse to use it. And if i will be happy, and os4 will come for sam. I will be buy that too. But not efika+mos2.0. So if the morphos team was clever, in the past few years Morphos coud be the real amiga platform. I think they missed the opportunity.
Once again morphos seems to be as good as os4, just the avaliablity and marketing...
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Einstein on November 29, 2007, 07:44:14 PM
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A1260 wrote:

excuse me if i am rude but you must have smoked your old socks or something.


Not really, if i'd like to smoke old socks i'd prolly also like to have hardcore sex with some old classic A#?  :-D
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 29, 2007, 08:17:59 PM
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by derringer3 on 2007/11/29 13:43:49

morphos and os4:

i'm not interested who is the official successor or else. I wanted to try Morphos classic, but my hw was not supported. (mediator) If hyperion doesn't came with the relase of classic os4, i will surely boght a g-rex or an efika and usig mos now. But hyperion do that, so i chosse to use it. And if i will be happy, and os4 will come for sam. I will be buy that too. But not efika+mos2.0. So if the morphos team was clever, in the past few years Morphos coud be the real amiga platform. I think they missed the opportunity.
Once again morphos seems to be as good as os4, just the avaliablity and marketing...


both are hobby oses and things happen and things changed. morphos is just a cloneos of the old amigaos 3.0, the successor of todays amigaos is aos4.0 and there is where the future is. what you choose is up to you. and elbox will support aos4.0 with drivers for their hw and new ppc cards will come that i dont doubt, but nothing will happen over night, you must give it time. morphos will also benefit from this i think even when its abandoned by its makers, like it is today. enjoy what path you have choosen, dont come here and talk about missed opportunitys, its just a waste...
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 29, 2007, 11:25:50 PM
It's 30th November 2007, HERE IT IS!!!!!!!!!

(http://www.acube-systems.com/resellers/images/os4_1.jpg)

Quote
ACube Systems Srl is pleased to to announce the immediate availability of the awaited AmigaOS 4.0 for Amiga 1200, 3000(T) or 4000(T) with a PowerPC CPU, developed by Hyperion Entertainment VOF. It is now possible to benefit of all the features of this new AmigaOS release, an operating system famous for its efficiency and small footprint.

AmigaOS 4.0, thanks to its power and optimization, succeeds in using at the maximum even systems running at 160Mhz, allowing the multimedia performances and the usability everyone expects from AmigaOS.

The interest expressed towards this new AmigaOS version is so high that, actually, orders are twice than expected. This shows that the Amiga community is still strong and that it enjoys and support the efforts made by Hyperion Entertainment VOF and ACube Systems Srl to develop and promote concrete and powerful products.

It's possible to order AmigaOS 4.0 for "Classic" Amigas directly from ACube Systems or from a reseller listed on page.

http://www.acube-systems.com/resellers


:banana:  :banana:  :banana:  :banana:  :banana:  :banana:  :banana:  :cheers:  :cheers:  :cheers:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amigakit on November 29, 2007, 11:28:58 PM
Great news!

AmigaOS 4.0 Classic pricing at www.amigakit.com:

USD $105.78
GBP £59.99
EUR €83.89
CAD $101.34
AUS $118

All prices exclude worldwide shipping. We ship internationally.

Direct product link:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=764
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 29, 2007, 11:34:54 PM
want to know your currency then use this online universal currency converter..

http://www.xe.com/ucc/

 ;-)
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: spihunter on November 29, 2007, 11:46:04 PM
@Amigakit,

Man, your going to be busy for the next week or so! :-o
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Ral-Clan on November 29, 2007, 11:55:12 PM
Looks beautiful.  I wish I could run it (no PPC hardware).  :-)  :boohoo:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: TiredOLife on November 30, 2007, 12:11:16 AM
Well it seems not everyone is happy to see OS4.0 released for the classics.
Microsoft?
Apple?
No, my other half.

I told I would be pretty busy for a while once I get my hands on it.
She wasn't too happy, I can tell you.

 :roll:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amigadave on November 30, 2007, 12:11:40 AM
Very nice packaging, my hats off to them for that.  I might even buy it......someday, but not after seeing it work on a system similar to mine.  I hope I can see it on a Classic PPC Amiga close to me soon.

Congrats to all of you that have waited sooooooo long.  I am happy for all of you and hope it is all you dreamed of.  I also hope that it will continue to be developed for years to come.

Please post your reviews of OS4.0 on CSPPC and BPPC here for all of us to read.
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: BinoX on November 30, 2007, 12:34:37 AM
Quote

TiredOLife wrote:
She wasn't too happy, I can tell you.


LOL! Too bad :(! Thankfully, I managed to get away with it :D My other half doesn't mind so much, she's busy for a few hours each night anyway.. so I'm gunna be having some classic OS4 fun :D

Will do a speed comparison with the A1 as well, obviously it will be slower, but just how much...
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: ChaosLord on November 30, 2007, 12:34:37 AM
I want OS4 but I don't have a PPC card for my A1200T (Elbox Power Tower with Elbox Mediator).  I currently use an Apollo 1260.

I hope Elbox reads this and releases a new PPC card for A1200T  computers.
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Gav on November 30, 2007, 12:35:42 AM
This is good news but i'm no rush to buy this because of the fact my realtek network card aint supported or my SB128 although i could of just bought the terratec card..
Hopefully elbox may release drivers to sort these problems :roll:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on November 30, 2007, 12:48:09 AM
WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII ITS HERE!!!!!!!!!!!... sorry i coudnt help it  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: TiredOLife on November 30, 2007, 01:12:56 AM
BinoX

Should be interesting, what speed is your PPC?
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amiga92570 on November 30, 2007, 01:57:37 AM
@BinoX

I hope your other half isn't thinking the same thing :-?
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amiga92570 on November 30, 2007, 02:02:05 AM
Quote

ChaosLord wrote:
I want OS4 but I don't have a PPC card for my A1200T (Elbox Power Tower with Elbox Mediator).  I currently use an Apollo 1260.

I hope Elbox reads this and releases a new PPC card for A1200T  computers.


I sold two Bizzard PPC's this last year and I believe they went to Europe.
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: buzz on November 30, 2007, 02:50:38 AM
If this had been released some time ago, I may have rushed out to buy it, but I think I will wait a while at least to see what people say about it. I never did like the fact with morphos on my setup the reboot process took so long on every reboot (2 reboots each time) - does os4 have a similar behaviour ?

Another thing, with current currency rates, the gbp price is £10 more than the the price from Canada and USA. Why do Brits always pay more?
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: persia on November 30, 2007, 05:19:14 AM
So somebody hack the thing already and get it running on old Macs.  They're cheap as chips -- you can get a used G5 Mac for about the same price as a used 68030 Amiga!
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: beller on November 30, 2007, 05:34:30 AM
Quote

persia wrote:
So somebody hack the thing already and get it running on old Macs.  They're cheap as chips -- you can get a used G5 Mac for about the same price as a used 68030 Amiga!


I agree....hack it to the Mac and I'm set to run.  I don't think I'll want to pay what an Amiga PPC card might cost...

Bob
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: TjLaZer on November 30, 2007, 06:22:17 AM
ok now how about Acube releasing a PPC card for A3000/4000's? lol
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amigadave on November 30, 2007, 06:22:26 AM
If it ran on my G4 PowerBook, I would be fighting to be first to buy it.  Yes, please somebody release a hack to get it installed and running on PPC Macs.  (That would be one way for Hyperion to pay their lawyers, think of how much money Hyperion would get then from selling copies of AOS4.0 and they don't even have to be the ones to release the hack so they are not in even more litigation with AInc.)
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: pan1k on November 30, 2007, 06:38:09 AM
If it ran on a g4 Powerbook.. watchout sucka! :P I'd be first in line :P
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: yssing on November 30, 2007, 07:55:26 AM
Well If you via the PCI socket on the SAM440 and an adaptor for ZorroII/III and the A1200 port, could use the SAM440 as CPU card, then I would buy it, right now...
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on November 30, 2007, 08:43:57 AM
Quote

A1260 wrote:
It's 30th November 2007, HERE IT IS!!!!!!!!!

(http://www.acube-systems.com/resellers/images/os4_1.jpg)

Quote



:love: :banana: :banana: :banana: :pint:


:cheers:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: ddniUK on November 30, 2007, 09:49:35 AM
Had a look at AmigaKit, it looks like Matthew wont have stock until 5th December....
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Methuselas on November 30, 2007, 09:54:10 AM
Quote

buzz wrote:

Another thing, with current currency rates, the gbp price is £10 more than the the price from Canada and USA. Why do Brits always pay more?



'Cos you're British, Buzz.


Duh!

 :lol:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Oli_hd on November 30, 2007, 10:43:58 AM
Quote
Another thing, with current currency rates, the gbp price is £10 more than the the price from Canada and USA. Why do Brits always pay more?


VAT (Value Added Tax) at 17.5% :)
Exports outside the EU have the VAT removed although you may be taxed by your own gov. (Import tax)

See, we arnt being screwed!
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: monami on November 30, 2007, 10:59:32 AM
@ persia
 "So somebody hack the thing already and get it running on old Macs. They're cheap as chips -- you can get a used G5 Mac for about the same price as a used 68030 Amiga!"

i was thinking the same thing but didn't dare say it! he, he.
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Ianoakley on November 30, 2007, 12:13:24 PM
Quote

ddniUK wrote:
Had a look at AmigaKit, it looks like Matthew wont have stock until 5th December....


Where did this information come from as the item just seems to have disappeared off the web site although the item is still on my order.

 :-?  :-?
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: adonay on November 30, 2007, 12:23:50 PM
This sux i wanted to order it :-(
Maybe find another webstore ...
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: buzz on November 30, 2007, 12:52:51 PM
Quote

VAT (Value Added Tax) at 17.5% :)
Exports outside the EU have the VAT removed although you may be taxed by your own gov. (Import tax)

See, we arnt being screwed!


humph. yeh. VAT.. sucks ;-)
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: ddniUK on November 30, 2007, 02:19:42 PM
@ Ianoakley

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/newproducts.php?osCsid=6c4e3b77f767b4ca2723d88f2d41d5bf

Bottom of page in upcoming products.... If Amigakit havent got stock yet, I am doubtful that anyone has.... :(
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Ral-Clan on November 30, 2007, 02:25:47 PM
I wonder if Hyperion ever did an estimate of how many Classic Amiga PPC cards still exist.  I have no idea, but I'm guessing may 2500 cards total still in use.

This would obviously be the limit of copies of OS4.0 sold.

(we need new PPC hardware/cards)!
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on December 02, 2007, 10:03:02 PM
WOOOOOOHOOOOO!!!!!11 it's here!!!!! :-D  :banana:  :-D

(http://pici.se/pictures/zxliHoNVv.jpg)
(http://pici.se/pictures/MMIgwBpDv.jpg)
(http://pici.se/pictures/ONjFEJQIr.jpg)

It is in my hand !! oh my god the package is great and the instruction manual is wonderful !! oh my its not black and white but color !!

It is more fast than i could ever imagine.. wow and the installation is very very easy just put in the floppy and the cd and amiga makes it all happen !!

Thanks Hyperion and ACube once again, for this great software .. only amiga makes it possible  :bow:  :bow:  
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: VooDoo on December 02, 2007, 10:18:05 PM
great man..great...That is what I need :)...Os4 RuleZ  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: adonay on December 02, 2007, 10:25:29 PM
Ok thats it!! i will order my copy now... :madashell:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Trev on December 02, 2007, 10:31:53 PM
Forcast in hell: snow. ;-)

You gotta love how they dropped the Escom logo. No sense in ACube risking a trademark suit, I suppose.

Trev
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: AMC258 on December 02, 2007, 10:36:24 PM
Is it as fast as the version of MorphOS that I installed around 6 years ago?  I almost hope not.
It went crash-reboot-crash-reboot-crash-reboot-crash-reboot so fast my hard drive went up in smoke.  At least, I always blamed MorphOS and that's why I never tried it again.  It could be that the 2 year old IBM hard drive was ready to fry regardless..  Much of my software under development was lost that day and I gave up coding for a long time.  Of course, it's really all my fault for not backing up anyway...
Up until the crash, the speed of MorphOS was great.
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: motorollin on December 02, 2007, 10:37:44 PM
This is like torture. You lucky b*stards with PPC cards!

--
moto
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on December 02, 2007, 10:42:02 PM
@ A1260

They look just like the screenshots I put a link to HERE (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32999)
:lol:

But who cares where you got them, I share in your happiness :banana: :pint: :bow: :cheers:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: AMC258 on December 02, 2007, 10:45:15 PM
I wonder what the reason is that AmigaKit doesn't have my copy yet?  This is killing me.  I am waiting for the email six months from now saying "oh sorry, we still don't have this, would you like to keep waiting?" like other Amiga dealers.....
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amigakit on December 02, 2007, 10:54:32 PM
ACube have sent the stock from Italy to us (last week).

The arrival of the stock is imminent.  This week, we will be processing preorders of AmigaOS 4.0 Classic (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=764) in the order that customers have paid for them over the last few days.
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on December 02, 2007, 10:57:29 PM
 8-) Thanks for letting us know :cheers:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: AMC258 on December 02, 2007, 10:59:48 PM
Ja!  Vielen Dank!  err..Muchas Gracias..err..Much appreciated!  Where's that dancing banana thing when you need it?
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on December 02, 2007, 11:02:31 PM
Allow me to post one on your behalf mate  :banana:

:pint:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: TiredOLife on December 02, 2007, 11:15:15 PM
@AMC258

I feel your pain, trust me.

@Amigakit

What date did you first start taking orders?
(I ordered last Sunday)
Cheers
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: adonay on December 02, 2007, 11:22:56 PM
Quote

motorollin wrote:
This is like torture. You lucky b*stards with PPC cards!

--
moto


You had you chance :-P Instead of buying that CSMKII you could have had a BPPC on your old amiga 1200 but it aint as fun i gues .. Me for one always wanted a bigbox too but fokused on the cheap ppc acc boards instead.Hence i luckily have a BPPC but would like a spare....
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: motorollin on December 03, 2007, 08:44:00 AM
Quote
adonay wrote:
Instead of buying that CSMKII you could have had a BPPC on your old amiga 1200

A BPPC would have cost me *much* more than my MKIII, and would have been way out of my price range.

--
moto
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Bamiga2002 on December 03, 2007, 10:55:55 AM
I just ordered my copy of AmigaOS 4 together with a Cocolino and Lyra (current one seems to act dodgy sometimes).

:banana: :cheers: :banana:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on December 05, 2007, 12:16:47 PM
It's the 5th :-)

(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/OS4-5thDec07.jpg)

Fingers crossed everybody :pint:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amigakit on December 05, 2007, 12:29:33 PM
UPS are delivering the first batch of OS4.0 Classic today.

Tracking information reports that the parcel is on local vehicle for delivery to us.  We will update the webstore as soon as it arrives.

All customers that pre-ordered before today will begin to be processed as first priority.
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on December 05, 2007, 01:30:32 PM
That's fantastic news thanks Amigakit :-)

How do we get a Police escort on that vehicle :-D

:pint:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: monami on December 05, 2007, 04:01:26 PM
too late i've got my balaclava and cosh ready! ;-)
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on December 05, 2007, 04:24:28 PM
:laughing:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A1260 on December 05, 2007, 04:50:11 PM
next week alot of people will have os4.0!!!! wooohoo!!  :-D

all now singalong...

Acdc - Are You Ready

Are you ready
Are you ready
Are you ready
Are you ready

Sweet apple pie
Standing in the street
Hands outta line
Looking for some meat (heat?)
She take you high
When you feel her sting
She make you fly
And you know you're coming

Who all need it - who
Who all need it - you
Who all need it, who all need it (yes you do)
You all breathe it, we all need it
Are you ready for a good time
Then get ready for the night line
Are you ready for a good time
Then get ready for the night line
Are you ready for a good time

She making eyes
At everything she meet
ain't it a crime
When she make you pump heat
She make you fly
Because that's her thing
She make you dry
And you know you're broken in

Who all need it, who all need it
(yes you do)
You all breathe it, we all need it
Are you ready for a good time
Then get ready for the night line
Are you ready for a good time
Then get ready for the night line
Are you ready for a good time

Get with it

Who all need it, who all need it
You all breathe it, we all breathe it
Are you ready for a good time
Then get ready for the night line
Are you ready for a good time
Are you ready for a good time
Are you ready
Are you ready for a good time
I want a good time
Are you ready for a good time
Are you, are you ready
Are you ready for a good time
Good, good, good, good time
Are you ready for a good time
Are you ready, ready, ready

Are you ready for a good time
Are you ready for a good time

 :banana:  :banana:  :banana:  :banana:
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amiga92570 on December 05, 2007, 04:56:10 PM
Quote

amigakit wrote:
UPS are delivering the first batch of OS4.0 Classic today.

Tracking information reports that the parcel is on local vehicle for delivery to us.  We will update the webstore as soon as it arrives.

All customers that pre-ordered before today will begin to be processed as first priority.


Can't wait to get my email with order update. :-)
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amigakit on December 05, 2007, 05:07:45 PM
Stock arrived
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amigakit on December 05, 2007, 05:07:57 PM
Happy to report that the first batch has arrived and available for shipping.

We are immediately processing all customer pre-orders.  Orders will start arriving from the next 36hrs.
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: colossusuk on December 05, 2007, 05:42:59 PM
Excellent !!

Glad to hear you received the batch :D

Can't wait for mine to come through the post its all too exciting :D

Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: A4000_Mad on December 05, 2007, 06:18:15 PM
Quote

amigakit wrote:
Happy to report that the first batch has arrived and available for shipping.

We are immediately processing all customer pre-orders.  Orders will start arriving from the next 36hrs.


Gr88888888888888t!  8-)

I'm tempted to actually go back and sing that song now :-D
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amigakit on December 05, 2007, 07:22:35 PM
Some orders are now shipped and will start arriving from tomorrow.
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Dragster on December 05, 2007, 09:07:56 PM
@Amigakit

I supose mine has not been shipped yet, I've no confirmation email yet :-(

D.
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: amigakit on December 05, 2007, 09:09:29 PM
We'll process it in the shortly for you :-)
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Kaminari on December 05, 2007, 10:04:25 PM
Ah, the frustration...

Guess what, I have the hardware... Too bad I don't have the money for the OS. I just can't afford spending 90 euros + shipping for such an expensive product -- which I already paid half of it a long time ago (folks, NEVER preorder anything Amiga related, that's a lesson I learnt the hard way).

That means, unfortunately, no OS4 for my PPC anytime soon.
Title: Re: 1 day until AOS4.0 is released!!!!!
Post by: Ivanhoe on December 05, 2007, 10:56:27 PM
I have readed all the posts on this forum and my conclusion
is good:The OS 4.0 comunity will grow and this comunity is very die hard.
On the other hand good luck to all of the new OS 4.0
users with classics and as someone has said hope to see OS 4.0 on SAM 440 or on another PPC card for A1200/A3000/A4000. :-D  :-P  :pint:  :love:  :pancake: