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Title: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: redrumloa on November 15, 2007, 03:59:16 AM
Looks like after a short break, I will be getting back to retro computing in a big way! I am abut to buy a buttload of C= and Amiga goodies, about a garage full. Of the goodies I will be keeping is a SuperCPU 128 :banana:  :banana:

Do we have any SuperCPU owners here?
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: trekiej on November 15, 2007, 04:05:06 AM
Have you ever seen one demoed?
Is it really as fast as it seems?

I would not mind buying one.
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: Jeff on November 15, 2007, 04:08:57 AM
After 20 years I only just recently picked up another C-128D from Wiskow(I sold my first one long ago).  Sorry, I don't have a SuperCPU yet though.

I was really sorry I didn't keep at least one of my 1581's. It looks like there may be other disk alternatives now anyway.

Glad you are back Red!
Jeff
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: kd7ota on November 15, 2007, 04:42:50 AM
I also really like C64s/128s.

I wish I had a SuperCPU though. They are alot and hard to come by at times. I do have my c64 with a RS232 adapter which I connect to my PC and use the C64 to cruise BBS.

Also, there were a few games/apps made for the SuperCPU.

 :-D
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: Damion on November 15, 2007, 05:20:13 AM
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redrumloa wrote:
Looks like after a short break, I will be getting back to retro computing in a big way! I am abut to buy a buttload of C= and Amiga goodies, about a garage full. Of the goodies I will be keeping is a SuperCPU 128 :banana:  :banana:

Do we have any SuperCPU owners here?


WOOT! Congrats, dude. Nice find (re the SuperCPU), aren't those almost impossible to get nowadays?

 


Title: predicnosticating
Post by: weirdami on November 15, 2007, 06:20:01 AM
I knew it was you redrumloa. I saw that subject line and knew it had to be you and it was!  :lol:
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: AmiDog on November 15, 2007, 06:35:45 AM
I've got a SuperCPU 64. I brought it to AmiGBG 2005 where people could play Metal Dust (http://www.protovision-online.de/md/mdstart.htm) at my stand :-) I've written a little ray casting engine for it too, here (http://amidog.se/c64/ray/index.html).

edit: Added Metal Dust link.
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: da9000 on November 15, 2007, 07:00:48 AM
@AmiDog: that is BAD ASS! So awesome! :-)

Now I want a SuperCPU'd Commie!!!
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: skurk on November 15, 2007, 08:53:25 AM
*puts a spell on redrumloa*

Give.. it.. to.. me...
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: AJCopland on November 15, 2007, 01:57:31 PM
Please pardon my ignorance but what is SuperCPU 128. I figured that its some kind of accelerator for the Commodore128 but can't seem to find any actual details about it on google.

Andy
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: jj on November 15, 2007, 02:01:40 PM
First search  result on yahoo lol

http://www.cmdweb.de/scpu.htm (http://www.cmdweb.de/scpu.htm)
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: Xand on November 15, 2007, 03:39:07 PM
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Do we have any SuperCPU owners here?



I've been trying to get one forever, but there's always some crazy on eBay who pays over $1000 for the one for which I was bidding....

Congrats. If you have extras, I'd be glad to take one off your hands.

BTW The thread about who's craziest is answered here.
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: amigakid on November 15, 2007, 04:18:30 PM
Thats tight dude.  Sweet find.
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: Orjan on November 15, 2007, 06:20:30 PM

From the Yahoo link:

"A P300 only runs about 3 times faster than a P100. A SuperCPU-C64 runs 20 times faster than a stock C64!"

I´m dazzled at the math skills presented to me, and the way it is presented..  :lol:
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: redrumloa on November 15, 2007, 10:33:27 PM
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trekiej wrote:
Have you ever seen one demoed?
Is it really as fast as it seems?


I have not seen one in action in person, but I have read enough through the years and seen videos of them in action to know I want one. Ever since I got on the internet in the mid-90s I have known I wanted one.

I know full well direct software support is limited and I know it's limitations. Even still, this is the one piece of hardware I have wanted over any other, ever. Now if I can source a CMD hard drive, I will be set 8-)
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: redrumloa on November 15, 2007, 10:36:41 PM
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Nice find (re the SuperCPU), aren't those almost impossible to get nowadays?


Damn right they are hard to get :-( Maurice Randall bought out CMD, but his Click Here Software has been unwilling or unable to fill orders.
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: Louis Dias on November 15, 2007, 10:43:45 PM
The 65816 was used in the SNES but it was only initially 2MHZ and I believe the cpu's are in the cart, not the unit.

Later SNES carts has a 23 or 25MHz cpu.  Find out which games had those and you can rape them.

How does this work in 128 mode?

I have a 128D that powers on but I get no screen.  Anyone want to take it off my hands?  I installed an extr SID chip and have it wired to the RF out connector.  So you can only use a composite cable or the 80col RGB cable for output.

Yes, it was working years ago.  No idea what's wrong.
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: koaftder on November 15, 2007, 10:55:58 PM
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lou_dias wrote:
The 65816 was used in the SNES but it was only initially 2MHZ and I believe the cpu's are in the cart, not the unit.

Later SNES carts has a 23 or 25MHz cpu.  Find out which games had those and you can rape them.

How does this work in 128 mode?

I have a 128D that powers on but I get no screen.  Anyone want to take it off my hands?  I installed an extr SID chip and have it wired to the RF out connector.  So you can only use a composite cable or the 80col RGB cable for output.

Yes, it was working years ago.  No idea what's wrong.


The SNES was clocked at 3.58MHz for obvious reasons, and the processor is on the motherboard. Some carts did however contain extra logic such as an fpu and other things (see mario kart), it was pretty rare.
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: koaftder on November 15, 2007, 11:07:08 PM
SuperFX IC on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_FX)

Thats the extra processor on some carts, it's not a 65816.
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: adonay on November 15, 2007, 11:27:29 PM
Congrats RED i gues you wont be disapointed "unless it dont work" i have seen one 1 Time in real life and i sure was impressed what the c128 could do after  :-)

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redrumloa wrote:
Looks like after a short break, I will be getting back to retro computing in a big way! I am abut to buy a buttload of C= and Amiga goodies, about a garage full. Of the goodies I will be keeping is a SuperCPU 128 :banana:  :banana:

Do we have any SuperCPU owners here?
:-)
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: Louis Dias on November 16, 2007, 06:02:43 PM
Yeah, I got confused with the Super FX2.
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: redrumloa on December 02, 2007, 12:07:13 AM
Well, I went and picked up my new system today. 9 hours on the road later, I am officially the proud owner of a SuperCPU 128 :banana:

I picked up a few more bits, a couple I may sell, but mainly bought just for myself.  I had intended to buy him out, but we couldn't agree on a price I guess. This gentleman has quite a lot of equipment, both Commodore 8bit and Amiga. He really doesn't do the eBay thing much, but he would like to sell his goods. I would recommend him if you are looking to pick some stuff up. His prices would be fair to good, but not ridiculously cheap. He does have a lot of good stuff, including some hard to find and rare items. He's old school and he really knows his stuff. As an example. buy a 1541/1571/1581 from him and you will know it has been aligned, professionally tested and cleaned. Amigas? He tests, cleans and changed batteries in all his models, he also isololates the battery in a unique way. Amazing the time and effort he spends for prices probably much better than eBay.

If you are interested, PM me and I will give you his contact info.
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: ajlwalker on December 02, 2007, 01:02:38 AM
@lou dias

Maybe you were thinking of the Nintendo SA-1 chip.

This did appear in carts and was based on the 65816.  A list of games that use it and further info can be found here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_SA-1#List_of_games_that_use_the_SA-1_chip)
It seems it ran at 10MHz though.
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: Louis Dias on December 02, 2007, 05:45:29 AM
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ajlwalker wrote:
@lou dias

Maybe you were thinking of the Nintendo SA-1 chip.

This did appear in carts and was based on the 65816.  A list of games that use it and further info can be found here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_SA-1#List_of_games_that_use_the_SA-1_chip)
It seems it ran at 10MHz though.


Nice find...
I think they proto-typed a faster chip to keep up with the Playstation but eventually abandoned that and put everything into the N64.  I thought Killer Instinct for the SNES has the fastest chip in a cart...  My memory serves me nothing these days...
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: JetRacer on December 02, 2007, 01:44:00 PM
> Yes, it was working years ago. No idea what's wrong.

This is a common problem. People store away their computers in a dry place filled with (even in) non-anti-static plastic bags together with synthetic clothes hanging around and the combination causes the hardware to build up a massive static load. So the instant you touch it you fry just about every chip on the board. Case closed.
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: Jiffy on December 02, 2007, 02:32:04 PM
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redrumloa wrote:
Do we have any SuperCPU owners here?

I have one. Together with a CMD HD, an FD2000, a Ramlink and some other goodies for my C128DCR. Yep, it cost me an arm and a leg back in the days, but as prices have only gone up it seems to be a good investment. No, I am not parting with it...  :-)
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: redrumloa on December 03, 2007, 04:02:35 AM
@Jiffy

Sweet!! You have any suggestions for a new owner?
Title: Re: Gearing up to buy a SuperCPU 128!!
Post by: redrumloa on December 03, 2007, 04:04:10 AM
@AmiDog

That ray casting engine looks awesome, something said that could not be done!

You have any other projects for SuperCPU?