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Coffee House => Coffee House Boards => CH / Science and Technology => Topic started by: bloodline on November 11, 2007, 07:58:28 PM
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Well I picked one up yesterday evening. Probably a bit expensive , but none the less a great personal comunication device!
I'm happy to answer any questions if anyone has any.
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bloodline wrote:
I'm happy to answer any questions if anyone has any.
Can I have it?
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moto
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motorollin wrote:
bloodline wrote:
I'm happy to answer any questions if anyone has any.
Can I have it?
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moto
I feel a Piru answer coming up :-D
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motorollin wrote:
bloodline wrote:
I'm happy to answer any questions if anyone has any.
Can I have it?
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moto
Hahahahaha, One question that won't have a positive response! :-)
PS just got your Email from ages ago!! iPhone is great for checking Emails!!!
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Ok my first criticism of the device has just manifested itself... It won't charge from the 250mA provided by a computer USB port... you have to use the 1A charger supplied... it would have been nice if it said that somewhere... I had the phone plugged into my MacBook Pro this evening assuming it was charging... How annoying...
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bloodline wrote:
PS just got your Email from ages ago!! iPhone is great for checking Emails!!!
Oh, my essay? I was wondering if you were still working your way to the end of it :lol:
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bloodline wrote:
Ok my first criticism of the device has just manifested itself... It won't charge from the 250mA provided by a computer USB port... you have to use the 1A charger supplied... it would have been nice if it said that somewhere... I had the phone plugged into my MacBook Pro this evening assuming it was charging... How annoying...
My other half has an unlocked US iPhone and he charges it from the USB port of his MacBook (not a Pro). So either the Pro has lower powered ports than the normal MacBook, or the US iPhone has different power requirements to the UK one.
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moto
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Oh! interesting I may have a duff one!!!
Your email is brilliant, I love the concept, will read it again and write a full response to it!
-Edit- This is weird, it's now reporting a full charge... very strange :-)
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bloodline wrote:
Oh! interesting I may have a duff one!!!
Tell you what, I'll do you a favour and test your iPhone on one of our MacBooks to see what happens. I'll PM you the address to send it to ;-)
bloodline wrote:
Your email is brilliant, I love the concept, will read it again and write a full response to it!
Ok mate. Unfortunately I've been really busy with uni so haven't had any time for music. Hopefully I'll still be just as inspired when I actually have some time!
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moto
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Interesting to note that YouTube downgrades the quality when running on EDGE... Fortunately I live in London with plenty of WiFi...
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bloodline wrote:
-Edit- This is weird, it's now reporting a full charge... very strange :-)
IT'S POSSESSED!!!! :nervous:
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Personal communication device?! :crazy:
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I'm happy to answer any questions if anyone has any.
Will yours blend too? (http://www.willitblend.com/videos.aspx?type=unsafe&video=iphone)
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Wow the O2 nextwork really sucks!!! Well compared to the Orange one I'm used too...
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O2 sucks
Iphone great if you want 2 year old technology in your phone.
no 3g lol
2m camera lol
they are heavy for a phone
great a screen that will be constantly covered in finger grease
As the old addaage goes with apple, "Style over content"
Im much hapier with my free Nokia N95, and yes ive had a play on a iphone.
Same as the Ipod, think a creqative zen much better
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JJ wrote:
O2 sucks
Iphone great if you want 2 year old technology in your phone.
no 3g lol
2m camera lol
they are heavy for a phone
great a screen that will be constantly covered in finger grease
As the old addaage goes with apple, "Style over content"
Im much hapier with my free Nokia N95, and yes ive had a play on a iphone.
Same as the Ipod, think a creqative zen much better
Apparently, you missed out on iPhone's corrective keyboard.
:roll:
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Well each to their own, but the N95 doesn't meet my needs, but the iPhone fits the bill nicely.
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uncharted wrote:
JJ wrote:
O2 sucks
Iphone great if you want 2 year old technology in your phone.
no 3g lol
2m camera lol
they are heavy for a phone
great a screen that will be constantly covered in finger grease
As the old addaage goes with apple, "Style over content"
Im much hapier with my free Nokia N95, and yes ive had a play on a iphone.
Same as the Ipod, think a creqative zen much better
Apparently, you missed out on iPhone's corrective keyboard.
:roll:
The corrective keyboard is great!!!
The [color=0000ff]O[/color][/b][color=0000ff]2[/color] network is truely terrible!!! I raelly hope they up the quality...
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I really hate to say it, but I think I've fallen in love with this phone! It's just so well thought out, I expect the next version will be amazing!
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Yesyes, but will yours blend...? You haven't answered that question yet. (Scroll up a few messages.)
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hmm, I'll pop it in my food processor tonight, shall I? :-D that video on youtube is great!
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I'm guessing that as with the likes of the Nokia N95 your iPhone can make phone calls, send texts, surf the net, play MP3's, play videos, play games, take photos, capture video in DVD-like quality. But what else can it do? Would you advise someone to buy an iPhone instead of the new N95 8GB for example?
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A4000_Mad wrote:
I'm guessing that as with the likes of the Nokia N95 your iPhone can make phone calls, send texts, surf the net, play MP3's, play videos, play games, take photos, capture video in DVD-like quality. But what else can it do? Would you advise someone to buy an iPhone instead of the new N95 8GB for example?
The devices are very similar.
Well my choice was a free N95 on my Orange contract... or the iPhone for £269 on an O2 contract... After playing with an iPhone in an O2 store on Oxford Street it became obvious that it was a vastly superior device to the N95. So despite the fact that I had to pay for it and move on to a really crap network (O2 really are {bleep}e), I decided to get the iPhone.
The Browser alone is worth the cost... the YouTube app is a great way to kil time... the Screen and interface is so far in advance of any other device you can't go back... the Camera on the iPhone is not as good as the N95 by a long shot... but none the less is great as a point and click which is fine for my needs.
The N95 lacks the iPhone's internet-working integration and suffers from a very clunky interface. The iPod music/video function of the iPhone take it far beyond the N95 which is very deficient in the multimedia department.
All I can really suggest is that you play with an iPhone in the shop, then play with an N95 (I was very fortunate to get to play with my friends N95 phones for most of the year before the iPhone was released)... only then can you make a choice as to which suits your needs better.
The iPhone just works, you don't really have to think about what you are doing, you just do it, there is no learning curve... it functions as you would intuitively use the device.
The N95 has a much better camera, but it is a mobile phone, it feels like a mobile phone, you have to adapt to the device before you can make the best use of. If you want to do something, then pull out the manual.
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I have to admit I dont like the iPhone at all. The Nokia N95 is rather nice though :-)
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mel_zoom wrote:
I have to admit I dont like the iPhone at all. The Nokia N95 is rather nice though :-)
but have you actually used the iPhone? I wasn't planning to get one until March... but I after 15min I wondered how I was going to live it out it..
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@ bloodline
It's still on my 'To do' list to go and have a play with an iPhone.
@ Mel
Glad to see that you are still with us. BTW, you weren't wrong to call them 'in-ear headphones' as I've seen them for sale labelled as exactly that :-)
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I can't believe I'm the only one here with an iPhone! :-o
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I have one vicariously. IOW, I can't afford it so I borrow my boyfriend's when he's not looking :-)
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motorollin wrote:
I have one vicariously. IOW, I can't afford it so I borrow my boyfriend's when he's not looking :-)
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So basically out of 10million A.org users, only two people have iPhones... that's pathetic, no wonder Commodore went under!
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Make no mistake - I would have one if I could afford it.
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moto
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Well, you already have one by proxy... It's all these slackers who haven't even tried one that I'm disappointed with! :-D
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Well I've had a play with an iPhone and think that is an awesome gadget. I can certainly see why you didn't want to wait till March to get one :-)
Firstly I liked the huge screen of course. My N95's screen is as wide as my N70's is tall, but the iPhone's screen is as wide as my N95's is tall. The touch screen is incredible to use although I found it a bit tricky to hit the right letter when typing. It took at expert at the O2 shop about 5 attempts to type amiga.org properely. After which I showed him A.Org and one of my own posts at this site (as you would :-D) Internet browsing was fast and looked fantastic on the large screen. I also used its map function and zoomed in to see my own house with my car outside 8-)
I was surprised to learn that you can't Bluetooth to/from your friends phones as the only way to get stuff in and out is with the iTunes sotware. Pity! I was even more surprised to find out that although it has a camera it cannot capture video footage. The music library looked great with all the album sleeves nicely on display to flick through. I couldn't really check out the sound quality in the noisy shop.
I think that the O2 contract itself is a ripoff at £35 for 18 months to get just 200 minutes and 200 texts. Hopefully one day you'll be able to just buy the iPhone and put your own sim in it, but the guy said that this is not planned.
As a gadget I would give the current iPhone at least an 8 out of 10. Yes, I think I would be more than happy to have my N95 in one pocket and an iPhone in the other :pint:
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Suppose it all comes down to what you need from your chosen device. I dont need an MP3 player on my phone as I have already got (in my opinion) a better mp3 player than an Ipod.
Basically got an N95 becuase over the years I have had lots of different Nokia phones, and have only been disapointed when I have had Motorollas and samsungs.
For me a 2mb camerea with no video would have been bad enough, but no 3G supopport was the anti-deal clincher if you like.
I would liken the Iphone to an ipod with internet, with an phone bolted on.
Where as I would say the N(5 and other phones of that ilk are a Camera phone with other goodies bolted on.
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I have no interest in an IPhone because they're too damned expensive. Same goes for almost every phone really. With the amount of abuse and suffering electrical devices I carry in my pocket have to endure, it just doesn't make sense to buy fancy expensive stuff. Their life expectancy is too low =).
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I never pay for my phones, well indirectly I do. But im the UK phones, apart from the Iphone, and sometimes when they first come out, are free with the Contract.
My contract over the year will not cost what the phone costs to buy on Pay as you go or simless. This is because the mobile phone networks pay tomwards the phones.
I dont know if its the same in Holland.
I know in the USA they do not seem to get free phones ever.
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The get-a-phone-with-a-contract thing is here too. I only do cheap one-year contracts so no 'free' phones for me. I buy cheap prepaids, have the SIM-lock removed and put in my own SIM-card.
BTW Holland is not The Netherlands, like England isn't the UK =).
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Hi odin
Sorry my geography is rubbish, Can you explain. I dont really understand.
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Its ok , just looked it up on wikipeida. So which one of the 12 provinces do you live in ?
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The northeastern one.
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After 3 weeks I'm still loving this thing!
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Posting this from my new iPhone :-)
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moto
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Congratulations moto :pint:
(I'm not all jealous that you have both OS4 and an iPhone and I have neither :bigcry:)
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A4000_Mad wrote:
Congratulations moto :pint:
(I'm not all jealous that you have both OS4 and an iPhone and I have neither :bigcry:)
At least you can *run* OS4 ;-)
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motorollin wrote:
Posting this from my new iPhone :-)
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moto
Congratulations! Now I really do need to get an IM installed on mine so we can chat :-D
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bloodline wrote:
mel_zoom wrote:
I have to admit I dont like the iPhone at all. The Nokia N95 is rather nice though :-)
but have you actually used the iPhone? I wasn't planning to get one until March... but I after 15min I wondered how I was going to live it out it..
I have. It just wasnt nice at all. What does it honestly offer that the competition does not in less space and weight?
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@ Mel
Glad to see that you are still with us. BTW, you weren't wrong to call them 'in-ear headphones' as I've seen them for sale labelled as exactly that :-)
Ive been reading but have had little to contribute lately and have been very busy. At least I learned how to use the quote feature properly today - it helps when you arent using a script blocker :-)
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mel_zoom wrote:
I have to admit I dont like the iPhone at all. The Nokia N95 is rather nice though :-)
I don't get what is so special about the N95. Mrs. Unch and I were buying new phones yesterday and the guy in the store was trying to get me to pay extra for an N95. As far as I could tell, it was just a slider phone with a big screen and really bad battery life. iPhone seems to be a completely different class of device.
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mel_zoom wrote:
I have. It just wasnt nice at all. What does it honestly offer that the competition does not in less space and weight?
I'm not entirely convinced we've used the same device! If we consider the N95 as a first generation device, then the iphone is a second generation device! I can't wait to see the third generation devices!
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Even when iPhone has it's obvious technical shortcomings, the single greatest blocker (for me) is the price. I could never pay such insane amounts for using a phone.
Oh yes, my phone bill for the last 6 months was 30 eur ;-)
However, the bill will probably grow due to the HSDPA capable nokia I just bought...
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Where is the GPS on the iphone? Where is the 3G?
When I came round to get my new phone I needed to get one capable of GPS, due to my current job. The N95 is amazing in this regard.
To be honest I don't know much about the iphone, but know it doesn't have GPS or 3G. I can't consider it anything other than an old generation phone with a nice interface. Consequently overpriced too.
I also don't know if it has skype and instant messenger, like my N95, but I guess it must have.
The battery life on the N95 is disappointing, but I've never run flat. May consider an iphone when it improves and becomes free on contract. Otherwise, no chance.
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I hope your N95 does GPS better than my new Mextel phone. It's a Motorola, forget the model number. Actually, my previous Mextel phone worked just as crappy. The GPS almost *never* works.
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Ive found Nokia phones to be fantastic. I've still got working 3330, 6600, 6680, N70 and now N95 (the best so far of course)
On the other other hand my wife was always been attracted by the "Hello Moto" adverts and had nothing but trouble with them. She couldn't even put a memory card in that Razor thing :lol:
But she has now seen the light and got herself an N95 too 8-)
We both like the iPhone but the rediculous cost of the contract and the lack of important functions like being able to bluetooth to each other, 3G and no video recording on the iPhone is the killer for us.
moto wrote:
At least you can *run* OS4 ;-)
I can now that it has arrived thanks mate. You just need to get the soon to be released iPhoneUAE ;-)
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My Razzer lasted 8 months. Phlip fones never last for me, but this one lasted the longest. I had a Samsung flip phone that lasted half a day. Another one a week. As flip phones go, the Razzer is pretty durable. So, I'm back to my trusty old Nokia 6010.
My new Mextel phone is a phlip phone, but, I don't put it in my pocket. It actually has a really nice belt clip holster that keeps it pretty safe. Of course, it's mil-spec :lol: honestly, it's a military spec phone designed to stand up to anything our military can throw at it apparently. I tested it by throwing it at the floor as hard as I can and it survived.
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Actually the poor battery life and the fact that no one I've met has managed to get the GPS to work were what immediatelly put me off the N95 before I started looking at the iPhone. Now the web browser on the iPhone is a killer app, and it makes a great iPod too!
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soooo motoooo how does jailbreak work work 1.1.3? :-?
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It doesn't (yet). But none of the features are worth the upgrade IMO, and I couldn't live without Taskbar Notifier (which won't work if the iPhone isn't JailBroken).
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Ok, I guessed as much... Since I'm always using "maps" the upgrade to this is brilliant... The new gps feature is beautiful! Safari has also been improved + bug fixes, all good stuff :-) I think I'm gonna wait for the SDK in feb.
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posting this from my iPhone!! It rocks. I am glad the price dropped down to $400. I figured with all the $$ spent on Amiga hardware that's a fine price to pay for this awesome phone
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TjLaZer wrote:
posting this from my iPhone!! It rocks. I am glad the price dropped down to $400. I figured with all the $$ spent on Amiga hardware that's a fine price to pay for this awesome phone
Welcome to the club... our numbers are growing :-D
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http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/08/02/05/apple_introduces_16gb_iphone_32gb_ipod_touch_models.html
16 glorious giggly bites... yum yum...
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Is it possible to create a playlist for your music videos with the iPhone?
I record music videos directly into my laptop from the Sky music channels and convert them to MPEG-4 for playing in my N95. At 25MB for a 3 minute video the sound and picture quality looks pretty good to me. What I'm not happy about is only being able to play one video and then having to go and choose another one, whereas for MP3's you have a playlist of many. If you can have a playlists for your music videos in the iPhone, I would be even more interested in getting one.
Oh! I can use the option LOOP in the N95 if I want to watch the same video a zillion times :roll:
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@bloodline
Perhaps you could use the extra 8GB for some mobile porn:
(http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm244/motorollin/aorg/sock.png)
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:lol:
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:lol:
Hey! You guys missed my iPhone question back there :bigcry:
"Is it possible to create a playlist for your music videos with the iPhone?"
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A4000_Mad wrote:
:lol:
Hey! You guys missed my iPhone question back there :bigcry:
"Is it possible to create a playlist for your music videos with the iPhone?"
Nope... Not as I can see... But it's not a feature I would want so I've never really looked for it.
I cant really see why you want that anyway...
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Ok thanks :-)
I cant really see why you want that anyway...
Well my music video DVD's play at least 20 without me having to get up and select each one. I want a phone that allows me to be as lazy :-D
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In iTunes you have videos in your music library, for example music videos you buy and download from the iTunes store and then show up under the artist in your music library, and you also have videos you import manually, under the "Movies" heading. If you import a video, for example your custom-made music videos, they will appear under the "Movies" section, not your music library.
You can add videos to a playlist and synchronise the videos and playlist to the iPhone, but unfortunately not videos which appear under Movies. So the only ones which will work are ones which are part of your music library. I don't know of any way to make videos appear in your music library except to buy them from the iTunes store.
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Correction - you can do it. Import the file in to iTunes. Go to to the Movies section and find the file. Right click it and select "Get Info". Go to the "Video" tab and change the Video Kind from Movie to Music Video. If you want you can go to the Info tab and change the artist name so it shows up under that artist. Or you could change the album name to "Music Videos" to group them together. Press OK. Then go to your music library and find the video(s). Drag them in to a playlist. Sync the iPhone and you can play them all from the playlist and it will automatically go to the next video once one finishes.
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Many thanks indeed for checking that out moto :-)
My interest in the iPhone has just doubled :pint:
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No worries, but don't get excited just yet. I have just noticed that although videos re-labelled as music videos will appear in the playlist on the iPhone and appear to play, it seems to get stuck on the first frame of video even though the audio continues. It may be due to the length or size of the file (the one I tried happened to be very long and a very large file) or the format. I'll have a play around with different formats and a shorter video and get back to you.
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iPhone firmware 1.1.3 jailbreak is now possible :-D
Link (http://zibree.blogspot.com/2008/02/ziphone.html)
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motorollin wrote:
iPhone firmware 1.1.3 jailbreak is now possible :-D
Link (http://zibree.blogspot.com/2008/02/ziphone.html)
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Ok... lets have a look then...
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Can confirm that it works :-D
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By the way it's really easy:
1. Turn iPhone off
2. Hold down Home key and plug in iPhone cable
3. Wait for iTunes to tell you it has detected an iPhone in recovery mode
4. Quit iTunes
5. Open a terminal
6. CD to the directory where you extracted ZiPhone
7. Type:
# ./ziphone -j
8. If you get a bus error, you need to downgrade your MobileDevice.framework to the one in the ZiPhone archive then try again
9. Wait about a minute
10. Done :-D
This works with *all* iPhone firmware versions. My iPhone was 1.1.2 OTB, and I actually restored it to 1.1.3 last night, and this Jailbreak worked first time with no hassle, unlike when I Jailbroke 1.1.2!
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Ok... I guess I'm gonna try this one... Just to confirm that it only jail breaks the phone... It does nothing to the radio or the network lock?
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If you pass the -u parameter then it unlocks it. If you pass -a then it activates it. Simply passing the -j parameter just jailbreaks it and puts Installer.app on for you. It will not affect the baseband or unlock it.
Remember - my iPhone is locked to O2 the same as yours. I have not unlocked it, nor have I had any need to modify the baseband. I can confirm everything still works 100% after this process.
Also, the only changes this makes are in firmware. If it gets b0rked or you change your mind and want to go back, just do a restore in iTunes and it will go back to factory - i.e. no Jailbreak any more.
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motorollin wrote:
If you pass the -u parameter then it unlocks it. If you pass -a then it activates it. Simply passing the -j parameter just jailbreaks it and puts Installer.app on for you. It will not affect the baseband or unlock it.
Remember - my iPhone is locked to O2 the same as yours. I have not unlocked it, nor have I had any need to modify the baseband. I can confirm everything still works 100% after this process.
Also, the only changes this makes are in firmware. If it gets b0rked or you change your mind and want to go back, just do a restore in iTunes and it will go back to factory - i.e. no Jailbreak any more.
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Well... I guess tonight is the night then! Oh... I'm a little nervous, it is my first time afterall...
What about the iPhone backups... I assume all the personal stuff, sms call lists etc... are saved?
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Yes, everything will be exactly as it was before the Jailbreak. You won't lose anything.
Don't be too nervous - the first time is always the hardest. It will be over before you know it. In fact you'll probably wish it wasn't over so quickly, and you might even want to do it again. You'll definitely wonder why you waited so long. Hang on, what are we talking about? :-P
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motorollin wrote:
Yes, everything will be exactly as it was before the Jailbreak. You won't lose anything.
Don't be too nervous - the first time is always the hardest. It will be over before you know it. In fact you'll probably wish it wasn't over so quickly, and you might even want to do it again. You'll definitely wonder why you waited so long. Hang on, what are we talking about? :-P
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I'm getting all excited and in the wrong way :-)
Ok, where to I download all these lovely new Apps?
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Once your iPhone is jailb0rked, you will have a new application on your Home screen called Installer. Just run that (best to be connected to WiFi) and you will be presented with a nice little package manager which will download, install, update and uninstall software for you. I would recommend:
BSD Subsystem (required for some other apps)
AFPd 0.3 (Apple Filesharing Protocol server - your iPhone will be browseable through the Finder :-D )
OpenSSH (SSH server - this will let you share your Edge connection with your laptop)
Taskbar Notifier (very nice app which puts an icon on the taskbar where your battery icon is when you have SMS, email, voicemail etc. Much easier to see if you have any messages this way!)
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Ok that was painless... cheers Moto... wow.. the iPhone is a brilliant platform!!! :-)
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Congrats - you have just moved up the Geek Scale :-D
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You kind of wear the Iphone, not use it, its more of a fashion statment than a usable device. So it should sell very well, as there a lot of fashion victims out there more than willing to throw their cash away.
Once u get past the fancy jerky spinny menu thing, the Iphone is way past its sell by date. I mean come on, a 2MP camera!, they were around on phones like 4 years ago.
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swoodhall wrote:
You kind of wear the Iphone, not use it, its more of a fashion statment than a usable device. So it should sell very well, as there a lot of fashion victims out there more than willing to throw their cash away.
Once u get past the fancy jerky spinny menu thing, the Iphone is way past its sell by date. I mean come on, a 2MP camera!, they were around on phones like 4 years ago.
Jealous... play with one, then come back...
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Yeah, anybody who claims to be a techie salivates at the mention of iphone. Windows mobile devices do pretty much the same thing but in complete absence of a sense of style.
I debated getting an iphone, but eventually just bought a motorola A780 off Ebay. It's Linux, does most of what iphone does, the camera is a little skimpy at 1.3 MP and you have to stick a card into it to have room for mp3s, but it was 100 US dollars and all I had to do was transfer my SIM card...
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persia wrote:
Yeah, anybody who claims to be a techie salivates at the mention of iphone.
Now I've got a Terminal installed on my iPhone... it really is having an on-line unix box in my pocket!!! That is brilliant from my point of view!
Windows mobile devices do pretty much the same thing but in complete absence of a sense of style.
Now I have a jail broken iPhone, I would agree with you... except the iPhone has an extra feature of "it just works"... my Old WindowCE PocketPC was contantly crashing and getting it to do stuff was a struggle... trying to run 3rd party apps, etc... it was not a joy to use (Though I still miss it, as it ran UAE rather well)...
I debated getting an iphone, but eventually just bought a motorola A780 off Ebay. It's Linux, does most of what iphone does, the camera is a little skimpy at 1.3 MP and you have to stick a card into it to have room for mp3s, but it was 100 US dollars and all I had to do was transfer my SIM card...
I've not tried a Linux based mobile device, I expect that they have similar advantages over WinCE devices in that regard.
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swoodhall wrote:
Once u get past the fancy jerky spinny menu thing, the Iphone is way past its sell by date. I mean come on, a 2MP camera!, they were around on phones like 4 years ago.
That ain't nice you coming here picking on bloodline's gadget with your first post. He gets the crazy idea that you are picking on him. Now if you apologise, like I know you're going to, I'll tell him to forget the whole thing :quickdraw:
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Yeah sorry for giving my opinion on the Iphone. I got it all wrong they are a really useable and powerful mobile device, packed with technology, and not a piece of catalogue boy’s jewellery at all.
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swoodhall wrote:
Yeah sorry for giving my opinion on the Iphone. I got it all wrong they are a really useable and powerful mobile device, packed with technology, and not a piece of catalogue boy’s jewellery at all.
See, it didn't take long for you to see the light! That, my friend, is the power of Apple's marketing machine.
-Edit- Is catalogue boy a complement?
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Anyone tried Updating to 1.1.4 yet?
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Reports of a 1.1.4 Jailbreak are surfacing.
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BBC: BBC iPlayer comes to the iPhone (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7283702.stm)
The version for iPhone and iPod touch users will allow streaming over a wi-fi connection. However, the EDGE mobile network used by the iPhone is too slow for streaming video.
iPhone Fans: No Flash Player For You (http://blog.wired.com/monkeybites/2008/03/iphone-fans-no.html)
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No iPlayer doesn't necessarily mean no Flash player.
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The two news items are totally unrelated.
There is no iPlayer because current iPhone has no 3G.
There is no flash player because Apple thinks the current player is too slow to be usable. It can be argued whether this is a problem of the software or the iPhone.
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Piru wrote:
The two news items are totally unrelated.
There is no iPlayer because current iPhone has no 3G.
The BBC have chosen ~500Kbps data rate for their streaming... Edge tops out at around 230Kbs in my experience... It's a shame they don't offer two streams... But I knew the iPhone was Edge based when I bought it... When I upgrade (when apple bring out a 32Gig version) I would expect it to have 3G.
I'll give my existing iPhone to my younger brother, it will be fine for his needs... he's only 12 now...
There is no flash player because Apple thinks the current player is too slow to be usable. It can be argued whether this is a problem of the software or the iPhone.
Hmmm, there are lots of conspiracy theories as to why the iPhone has no Flash... I reckon politics has a lot more to do with it than anything else... Steve Job is an ar$ehole when he doesn't get his way... that's how apple survived when all the other companies folded...