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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Drummerboy on November 02, 2007, 10:25:21 PM
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Hello,
I was thinking about Word procesors for Amiga OS (Classic)
then.. Which is a best Word Procesor Avaiable to this days for Amiga Os ?..
You know maybe you can work with MS Word files, and save like MS Word Files. And load without problems MS Word files.
Best Regards
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try the AmigaWriter (http://software.alinea-computer.de/seiten/amigawriter_uk.php). i bought it but i don't use it frequently so i have no idea about msoffice combatibility. it uses datatypes so you may be lucky enough.
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there is a demo available to try amigawritwer demo (http://www.alinea-computer.de/scripte/downloadtracker/file.php?id=24)
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FinalWriter was always the best and most polished WP on the Amiga. Well, it was when I last used an Amiga - back in 1994!
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no msword capabilities on final writer though i love it. it will view some word files but you have to clean up alot of character pages to get to it again no word format saving capabilities.
edit: this thread was discussed not too long ago search threads
amigawriter 2 http://www.softhut.com/cgi-bin/test/Web_store/web_store.cgi?page=catalog/software/business/amiga_writer2.html&cart_id=4665819_66332
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Pagestream has a MS Word filter, but from what I can tell it only allows you to export individual frames of written text rather than an entire document composed of, say, hundreds of frames. Is anyone a Pagestream expert here who can confirm/correct this if I am wrong? I have several files I've created in Pagestream, each containing dozens of individual text frames. I am able to export the entire file as a PDF (with great results, I might add..), but the MS Word filter only works if I have a single block of text selected. Any ideas on how I can get a full conversion of a Pagestream file to M$ Word format?
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Everyone probably knows already, but, it seems that OpenOffice (not Word) is a much better compliment to Amiga word processors. Documents saved in Final Writer as RTF open perfectly in OpenOffice. I haven't tried it yet, but the document could probably next be saved in a Word format (if that must happen).
I'm just beginning to use OpenOffice and it appears that for my purposes, it can completely replace M$ Office. OpenOffice 'feels' like it is designed to be compatible with everything, to assist translating formats.
I don't have much experience with it yet, but I'm impressed so far.
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Only problem with that is most of exotic text manipulation techniques available in Pagestream (that make documents created with it look so awesome) are almost totally lost upon conversion to rtf (Really Terrible Format).
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Definately Final Writer - Nothing ever compared!
The later the version, the better it gets! You won't be dissapointed. :-)
However, you are going to need at least an 030, 040 is better & lots of Ram if you are going to be manipulating pictures with your Text. 16Mb Fast with an 040 is no slouch with Final Writer. I'm sure less than an 030 will be ok, but expect it to be slightly chuggy. ;-)
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Not too many places ask for resumes in Final Writer format. Pagestream is by far the best of the heap, but nobody seems to want Pagestream format, either. What I want is to be able to use Pagestream for creating the file, and be able to export it to MS Word format with as little loss of formatting information as possible. Can this be done?
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AmigaWriter is good to use with word docs, runs fine on OS3.9 PPC and OS4
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Hi Drummerboy,
I think the real problem with openning MS Word documents in a foreign program, is that Word's inconsistent and buggy use of formatting markup. MS Word can't even open its own documents in a consistent manner. This is a rather unfortunate fact, which I think is one of the motivations behind the PDF format.
MS Word documents with highly specialiased formats, like multiple sections, with differing margins/tabs/styles, etc, almost never behave consistently in any program, particularly when the documents grow in size, and formating has been edited a number of times.
One thing Word does, is it leaves behind formatting markers, for formatting which is no longer meant to be in place. This is confusing for any program opening the document, particularly third party software attempting to read a foreign file.
One way around this, which works reasonably well, is to save a Word document in html format, and then open it in Word, and save it again in Word format: this technique tends to drop the unwanted markup notation. This probably doesn't help you very much, if you are trying to do everything on your Amiga, though.
You probably won't have too much trouble exporting files to Word though. There are a few options to do this. I wrote part of my honours thesis using LaTex for Amiga, and converted the files to word on a PC for my supervisor. It worked well enough for basic files, but for anything complex, a pdf was always necessary.
Good luck.
Oliver
P.S. I've just downloaded the Pagestream 5 demo for Windows and Linux. This thread has reminded me to give it a try. Is anyone here using this? I'm keen to see how it compares to LaTex. The last time I used commercial DTP was Quark in about 1990 (I think). Should be fun. From the Pagestream site, I'm not too sure about the difference between Pro and Standard.
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Thanks, for all suggest and recomendations.
I think maybe i going to try with Final Writer with any improve for add
I try the Demo of Amiga Writer, but i haved problems for load some MS Word documents.
The OS4 notepad can work with OS 3.X?.
best regards!
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Oliver wrote:
Hi Drummerboy,
I think the real problem with openning MS Word documents in a foreign program, is that Word's inconsistent and buggy use of formatting markup. MS Word can't even open its own documents in a consistent manner.
:lol: ....Aint that about right! :roll:
@ Drummerboy
Just want to share a story with you:
Back in 1994, I was doing an ONC in Mech/Electrical Engineering along with Advanced A Level maths. We had a huge shortage of Pee Cee's in the CAD Suite at college & I desperately needed to print out about 8 presentations for my course work. The tutor allowed me to take my A4KD 040 in to use it, as well as Demo it to anyone who showed interest! :-D
Lots scoffed & LOL'd saying things like....an Amiga!....Isn't that one of those Games machines?
Anyway, they soon shut up watching me Render an Imagine 3 object to Export in DXF format for Autocad 13 on the crap 486 66's hanging around the Cad Suite.
They were amazed at the miggy being able to format a Pee Cee floppy, then write the exported DXF file to Floppy, chuck it in the 486 & load it into Autocad. Whilst all this was going on, I was printing across the network to one of the Cad Suites Deskjet 550 printers & banging away in Final Writer to finalise some more course work, as well as formatting a partiton on one of the SCSI drives. (just to really show off :-D )
At one point, the Tutor insisted everyone got back to their work stations. The Amiga just stopped the place dead!
Bill, ur havin a laugh! :-D
Oliver is dead right about some of M$'s tags that scramble things up sometimes, But I remember Importing Word docs into Final writer without too many problems. I never really did it the other way cos my miggy was more than adequate. Another thing worth considering as well is the Version of Word you are exporting/saving from. Word can also save in different formats like Rich Text document, Wordpad etc & different file types will probably give you different results when you Import them to Fianl Writer. Just experiment for the best results. ;-)
There is some Adobe support on Aminet, though I never had much luck getting many PDF's to open correctly. I don't know if there is a version of PDF software for Amiga that allows you to Write PDF files. If there was, Adobe on the Pee Cee might have issues as I have seen trying to read PDF's on the Amiga?
All the best with your quest, I wish you luck. :-)
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Dunno if it helps much, but that's what I do:
I use latest Wordworth that has a nice support for tables (ver 7) and export it in rtf format. MS Word reads it without trouble. The other way around works fine as well - Save as RTF from Word and Wordworth will open it. Only thing is, and that has nothing to do with formats or word processors, you have to have the fonts installed in both systems (via t1 or tt managers on miggy) to have the docs displayed properly.
Also, you could try Word 6 on Shapeshifter. On 030@50/AGA it worked just fine, albeit kinda slow, on 040 or 060 + RTG it's very fast and it will open native Word docs, even ones created with Office 2003 (haven't tried 2007) with a little need of reformatting.
Also, on aminet, you can find word converters for text, but, obviously, nothing advanced will be preserved.
AmigaWriter 2 seems like a good alternative, but I haven't tried it and dunno how compatible it is with actual word docs and at what degree it preserves advanced formatting. I don't even know if it has tables.