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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Alternative Operating Systems => Topic started by: swift240 on October 31, 2007, 05:12:33 PM
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Ok guys, I know this is off topic but......
I used a spare 13 gig HD and used Ubuntu 7.10. WOW I must say its very good indeed.
Ubuntu 7.10 has got a load of excellent software on board.
Its free and legal. Try as I may, I need to be honest here, its better than XP (just my opinion) So now I am going to dump XP and put Ubuntu on my 80gig HD and use another spare 20gig HD for Win2000 so I can run Amikit.
I am amazed at how good Ubuntu is, to be honest I thought Ubuntu was going to be full of cheap and nasty software, but wrong I am, the software is pretty good and its all free not like the stuff you need to run on Windows pay high.
I have got every thing running on Ubuntu as I did on XP.
If I can get Amikit to run on Ubuntu that would be great, but at the moment, its Ubuntu first and Win2000 on a spare HD but it will just be there for Amikit.
I also like the Firewall on Ubuntu thats there, very fine piece of software.
I do wander how some people critisise Linux/Ubuntu, I found it to be pretty good. And I DON`T have MicroSoft looking over my shoulder.
Mike.
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Yup, I tried an earlier release on a laptop, but couldn't figure out how to get my wifi cardbus adapter working :-?
ndiswrapper - I still shudder at the thought of it :lol:
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I did also install Ubuntu on one of my spare machines to test the OS, and definately makes it much easier.
But for some reason im not going to make it my primary due to the fact that im afraid of deleting or messing up some part of the OS where the whole system will just not work or boot any more.
It does everything I want it to do, but something about XP keeps pulling me back lol, but nothing bad, just probably because ive used windows for so long I decided to stick with it, but if im forced to use Vista, thats when I will use Ubuntu as a primary. :-)
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linux distros have come a LONG way the last years, and especially ubuntu is a shining gem. my only gripe is the lack of a 64 bit native flash plugin for firefox, but that's adobe being lame. That and winuae are the only reasons I'm keeping my xp now. (hmmm maybe also civ4 :P but that could be run under wine I guess. maybe also winuae)
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Yeah i tried the ubuntu cd the other day to see what it was like,very impressed so much so i just bought 120 gig hard drive for it.
Will keep my xp mainly because i play red alert with my brother but Ubuntu seems great,cant wait to install it.
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Ubuntu rocks. Before I switched to Mac I used Ubuntu on my laptop, and it did everything except run Reason, which was the only reason I kept a copy of XP around. The hardware detection is amazing - everything worked straight away. And yes, the bundled software is excellent too.
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moto
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Ive got Ubuntu for ps3 but couldnt get it installed. Tried yellow dog though. Whats the differences between the 2? Which is a better OS.
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I've been advocating Ubuntu for a while now as a good primary desktop OS. It really has come on leaps and bounds even from the v6.10 that I initially installed on a spare machine.
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foleyjo wrote:
Ive got Ubuntu for ps3 but couldnt get it installed. Tried yellow dog though. Whats the differences between the 2? Which is a better OS.
What's the point of Ubuntu on a PS3? Seems a waste.
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I use Ubuntu as my primary OS now with XP (for Team fortress 2) on a dual boot.
I can't believe how good it is... USB wireless apart I've come across no real problems.. they eye candy in gutsy is better than Vista.
I tried Linux a few years ago and found the learning curve to be beyond me, but ubuntu works straight out of the box and sure you have to bugger about sometimes to get things installed but thats how computers used to be and you learn something new every day.
Computing is fun again.
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Yep, I tried Ubunto 7.04 a couple of times, runs directly from the CD.
It works great!! :-D
But since I hate to re-install my PC I'm still running XP :madashell:
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Thats not really an answer to the question but the main reason is because I can
It allows me to use emulators and can be used to replace my PC as my main computer.
It'll be more of a waste to not use the PS3's option to install another OS as it would be ignoring something that it has the ability to do
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I've been using Xubuntu 7.10 recently too. It really has come a long way. I still think Ubuntu is sluggish though. Xubuntu is quite a bit more responsive, but really not so well supported as the big brother.
For people comparing Linux distros, in my opinion, it's a matter of opinion. I think one main factor is what is going to work for the user, and provide a sufficient user experience, with a suitable level of committment to technical learning. These things really vary between users, and distros.
Great thing about Ubuntu, is it really does provide a high degree of good automation, but it also doesn't really limit the capacity for experimentation and customisation to users who want to look inside the box. It also has a good amount of accessible documentation, and a big user base for support. Commercial support is available too, which really is handy for the corporate customers. A lot of stuff really does work with limited hassle, depending on the user environment.
It still can't come close to being an XP replacement for me. Too many of my development tools are XP only (Vista also can't offer replacement for these). Also, hardware support is still lagging somewhat, as many vendors just can't be bothered with it, for much lower returns than Windows can provide. This is particularly an issue if you are migrating your hardware from Windows to Linux, as a lot of gear isn't supported in a hassle free manner.
Hardware support in 7.10 is a lot better than before though, and a lot of people won't ever need to learn the joys of ndiswrapper.
The native office suites are good for making one's own docs, but still can't handle MS Office's unique approach to formatting, in many cases.
I've always liked the range of free code development tools on Linux. Used these enough in uni to see their appeal. Provides good access to parallel processing, and lots of handy simulators to analyse runtime performance in a range of applications. Very powerful, for people interesting in using a computer for computing.
I think Linux can only ever be a secondary OS for me though. Like most people, I'm locked in to the Windows based tools. I don't quite trust Linux to provide sufficient Windows emulation when doing firmware development for my employer. XP is still very useful, and there are plenty of ligit second hand licenses available now.
OK, a bit more than my 2c here...
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countzero wrote:
linux distros have come a LONG way the last years, and especially ubuntu is a shining gem. my only gripe is the lack of a 64 bit native flash plugin for firefox, but that's adobe being lame. That and winuae are the only reasons I'm keeping my xp now. (hmmm maybe also civ4 :P but that could be run under wine I guess. maybe also winuae)
Well 32bit flash works just fine and Ubuntu will now automatically install it. The plugin installer works great.
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Ubuntu 7.10 is really great, amazing really. I almost never boot into Windows anymore, only for the kids to play a game now and then. If I get off my but and get more familiar with Wine, I won't even need to boot into XP for games.
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BTW this is leaps and bounds over say, SUSE 10. With SUSE 10 I wound myself having to getting my hands dirty in console, which I usually worked everything out, but with a large amount of cursing and such. Ubuntu 7.10 Gutsy, I've yet found compelled to bang away in a console window. Everything is automated.
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I used Ubuntu 7.04 but on my system. I did have some stabilty issues. Maybe it was me as this was the first Linux i ever used. There is an installation software called "Automatix" which really simplifies the process of getting multimedia eg dvd, mp3, divx, flash to work as these things are not installed out-of-the-box due to licensing restrictions. A few PC mags now have Linux sections, usually focusing on Ubuntu, and this I found very useful. I think Ubuntu will probably be the distro that has the greatest chance of getting mainstream success because the parent company has managed to get it installed on new systems from PC vendors eg Dell. Hardware support in Linux is always going to be behind Windows, but most stuff works, but I'd recommend nvidia-based systems rather than ATI, which now means Intel rather than AMD.
Since then I chanced on PCLinuxOS 07 and I found this to be very intuitive, faster and is probably better for Windows users migrating to Linux than Ubuntu. Personally I like the KDE desktop that is used by PCLinuxOS over Ubuntu (haven't treid kubuntu
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I have upgraded to Unbuntu 7.10.
I am using a cheap USB WIFI adapter.
I used ndiswrapper-utils, installed from the package manager. This utility allows the use of your windows drivers. I used the supplied windows 2000 driver.
I also tested my camera, and USB scanner, both items worked well.
I think many of the linux distros have come a long way. I would recommend trying a live CD of your favourite distro to check it out for yourself.
my $0.02
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I have Ubuntu 7.10 on my SPARC here, and it's a joy to run. If I didn't have my MMO habit, bye-bye x86.