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Title: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Plaz on October 30, 2007, 03:49:14 AM
Please excuse the format of this. Spaces/tabs don't seem to come out right for me when posted in a thread. If you'd like a list in a tabbed format, just send me a PM with your email. I'll probably be tweeking this more later.

This should be a complete list of parts needed to build a 1.1 Minimig when ordering exclusively from Digikey. Comments, corrections and discussion are welcome. I tried my best to build this with parts that are in stock, priced reasonably, RoSH compliant and can be purchased one at a time. It took me several days to sort through all the many choices. Digikey might have had other catalog items to choose from but they didn't always fit all the criteria.


Digikey Parts list for Minimig

Part # -           (Description) -               Units -  Price/Unit
122-1519-ND        (IC SPARTAN-3 FPGA)              x 1   25.45
706-1048-ND        (IC SRAM 8MB)                   x 2   11.25
MC68SEC000AA16-ND  (IC CPU)                        x 1   13.39
PIC18LF252-I/SP-ND (IC PIC)                        x 1   9.70
AE9828-ND          (IC Socket for PIC)             x 1   1.14
296-8326-5-ND      (IC 74HC4060)                   x 1   0.56
ICL3232ECV-16Z-ND  (IC DL RS232 3-5.5V 16TSSOP)    x 1   3.42
LM1117MP-ADJCT-ND  (IC Regulator)                  x 3   1.31

P833-ND            (Cap 100uf 16V elect)           x 4   0.15
P819-ND            (Cap 22uF 35V elect)            x 1   0.15
399-3195-1-ND      (Cap Tant 100uf 6.3V)           x 4   0.93
PCC1840CT-ND       (Cap .1UF *100nf 50V 0805)      x 3   0.87 (10/pack)
PCC103BNCT-ND      (Cap 10000pf *10nf 50V 0805)    x 3   0.41 (10/pack)
PCC220CNCT-ND      (Cap 22pf 50V 0805)             x 1   0.69 (10/pack)
PCC470CGCT-ND      (Cap 47pf 50V 0805)             x 1   0.49 (10/pack)
PCC470CGCT-ND      (Cap 100pf 50V 0805)            x 1   0.49 (10/pack)

160-1579-1-ND      (Led Blue)                      x 1   0.40
160-1196-1-ND      (Led Red)                       x 1   0.22   
160-1414-1-ND      (Led Green)                     x 1   0.12
BAV99FSCT-ND       (Diode Sot23)                   x 5   0.13

535-9046-ND        (Crystal 20.000MHZ)             x 1   0.39
300-8473-ND        (Crystal 4.33619MHZ)            x 1   0.70

311-1.00MCRCT-ND   (RES 1.00M OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)    x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-560CRCT-ND     (RES 560 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)      x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-1.00KCRCT-ND   (RES 1.00K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)    x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-270CRCT-ND     (RES 270 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)      x 3   0.80 (10/pack)
311-100CRCT-ND     (RES 100 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)      x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-180CRCT-ND     (RES 180 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)      x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-2.20KCRCT-ND   (RES 2.20K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)    x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-4.70KCRCT-ND   (RES 4.70K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)    x 1   0.80 (10/pack)

CP-102AH-ND        (CONN Power Jack)               x 1   0.42
CP-4060-ND         (CONN MINI-DIN 6POS FEMALE)     x 2   1.11
A35120-ND          (CONN VGA DSUB HD 15POS)        x 1   1.81
A35107-ND          (CONN Serial 9Pin)              x 2   0.86
S5800-40-ND        (CONN HEADER 40POS 1x40)        x 1   1.33
^^^^^ Cut this connector to needed sizes
CP-3524NG-ND       (CONN 3.5MM RT ANGLE Audio)     x 1   0.78
361-1025-1-ND      (CONN MULTIMEDIA CARD PUSHPULL) x 1   2.57
P8008S-ND          (Switch 6MM LT-TOUCH 160GF)     x 3   0.29

Plaz
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: weirdami on October 30, 2007, 04:27:02 AM
I think the code feature will let you do the right spacing.

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Although        ,        the text comes out tiny.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: amigadave on October 30, 2007, 04:39:54 AM
Great work Plaz, this will help me and many others to complete our MiniMigs.

I wonder if anyone has figured out how to change the MiniMig from PAL to NTSC?  I hope someone is working on making an NTSC version some where.  I will delay my MiniMig assembly until a way to make it NTSC is discovered.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: weirdami on October 30, 2007, 05:48:04 AM
@amigadave

Is the PALness a hardware issue with the MiniMig design? I'd have though you could just do the PAL/NTSC trick on bootup.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: freqmax on October 30, 2007, 09:15:47 AM
http://www.opencircuits.com/Minimig_NTSC

I personally think it's possible to do it all within the HDL software. If the NTSC monitor can handle DCM'ed colour clock.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: EL121 on October 30, 2007, 12:39:07 PM
@ Wizard66

Is it possible that you will post your BOM because you`ve already got working versions. As far as I know you`ve also ordered from Farnell.

Thanks
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: EL121 on October 30, 2007, 05:13:50 PM
@ Wizard66

or only the item number of the caps if the whole BOM is too much. It would be very kind of you!

Thanks
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: amigadave on October 30, 2007, 05:27:52 PM
Quote

freqmax wrote:
http://www.opencircuits.com/Minimig_NTSC

I personally think it's possible to do it all within the HDL software. If the NTSC monitor can handle DCM'ed colour clock.


Thanks for that link.  I don't understand all that it contains, but it is a great resource for me to learn from.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Plaz on October 31, 2007, 12:30:03 AM
@weirdami

Thanks for the tip. Here's the list again for those who can read this small. :-)
You still should be able to cut and paste into your own doc preserving the format....

Also I forgot to mention these are US$ prices. So if you're using other currency, the price is even better.

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Digikey Parts list for Minimig

(Part #)           (Description)                (Units) (Price/Unit)
122-1519-ND        (IC SPARTAN-3 FPGA)             x 1   25.45
706-1048-ND        (IC SRAM 8MB)                   x 2   11.25
MC68SEC000AA16-ND  (IC CPU)                        x 1   13.39
PIC18LF252-I/SP-ND (IC PIC)                        x 1   9.70
AE9828-ND          (IC Socket for PIC)             x 1   1.14
296-8326-5-ND      (IC 74HC4060)                   x 1   0.56
ICL3232ECV-16Z-ND  (IC DL RS232 3-5.5V 16TSSOP)    x 1   3.42
LM1117MP-ADJCT-ND  (IC Regulator)                  x 3   1.31

P833-ND            (Cap 100uf 16V elect)           x 4   0.15
P819-ND            (Cap 22uF 35V elect)            x 1   0.15
399-3195-1-ND      (Cap Tant 100uf 6.3V)           x 4   0.93
PCC1840CT-ND       (Cap .1UF *100nf 50V 0805)      x 3   0.87 (10/pack)
PCC103BNCT-ND      (Cap 10000pf *10nf 50V 0805)    x 3   0.41 (10/pack)
PCC220CNCT-ND      (Cap 22pf 50V 0805)             x 1   0.69 (10/pack)
PCC470CGCT-ND      (Cap 47pf 50V 0805)             x 1   0.49 (10/pack)
PCC470CGCT-ND      (Cap 100pf 50V 0805)            x 1   0.49 (10/pack)

160-1579-1-ND      (Led Blue)                      x 1   0.40
160-1196-1-ND      (Led Red)                       x 1   0.22
160-1414-1-ND      (Led Green)                     x 1   0.12
BAV99FSCT-ND       (Diode Sot23)                   x 5   0.13

535-9046-ND        (Crystal 20.000MHZ)             x 1   0.39
300-8473-ND        (Crystal 4.33619MHZ)            x 1   0.70

311-1.00MCRCT-ND   (RES 1.00M OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)    x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-560CRCT-ND     (RES 560 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)      x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-1.00KCRCT-ND   (RES 1.00K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)    x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-270CRCT-ND     (RES 270 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)      x 3   0.80 (10/pack)
311-100CRCT-ND     (RES 100 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)      x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-180CRCT-ND     (RES 180 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)      x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-2.20KCRCT-ND   (RES 2.20K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)    x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-4.70KCRCT-ND   (RES 4.70K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)    x 1   0.80 (10/pack)

CP-102AH-ND        (CONN Power Jack)               x 1   0.42
CP-4060-ND         (CONN MINI-DIN 6POS FEMALE)     x 2   1.11
A35120-ND          (CONN VGA DSUB HD 15POS)        x 1   1.81
A35107-ND          (CONN Serial 9Pin)              x 2   0.86
S5800-40-ND        (CONN HEADER 40POS 1x40)        x 1   1.33
^^^^^ Cut this connector to needed sizes
CP-3524NG-ND       (CONN 3.5MM RT ANGLE Audio)     x 1   0.78
361-1025-1-ND      (CONN MULTIMEDIA CARD PUSHPULL) x 1   2.57
P8008S-ND          (Switch 6MM LT-TOUCH 160GF)     x 3   0.29


Plaz
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Plaz on October 31, 2007, 12:39:31 AM
@amigadave

I hope others find it useful. With the dollar in a slide, I figure even those outside the USA might find the prices better than purchasing with their own currency locally. All the more reason I tried to make it all RoHS compliant.

Quote
I wonder if anyone has figured out how to change the MiniMig from PAL to NTSC?


I'm just happy that it has VGA so I can get away from the old monitors and TV's. If I were able to connect my video toaster to minimig, then I'd probably be interested in NTSC. Otherwise I don't see needing it for myself.

Quote
I will delay my MiniMig assembly until a way to make it NTSC is discovered.


You could still build it, attach a VGA monitor, then mod it later when and if NTSC gets worked out.

Plaz
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: freqmax on October 31, 2007, 12:55:48 AM
@Plaz:
Have you actually run a system that uses this BOM list ..?    
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Plaz on October 31, 2007, 03:00:09 AM
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Have you actually run a system that uses this BOM list ..?


Very good question, and exactly the reason I've put it up for peer review. No I haven't built mine yet, but this is the list I'm ordering. I could go on about my long experience with this type work, but my final working build will be the real certification of course.

If any one checks closely they should find this is a part for part representation of Dennis' BOM with a few minor adjustments to match Digikey's stock. If any obvious errors are found, or a part choice is confusing, please posts about it.

I'll have updates as I get my parts and start building. Meanwhile I'm off to see if my prom burner supports the PIC, or do I need an additional socket attachment. :-)

BTW, that just gave me a thought.... No reason that I couldn't buy some extra PICS, program them and make them available to others at cost. (Chip + shipping). At least to others in north america. I don't know if that's cost effective for those needing international shipping. Oh well better find out about my burner before I go making offers I can't keep.

Plaz
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Plaz on October 31, 2007, 04:15:19 AM
According to the documentation, my programmer supports the 18Fxxx PICs so that's good news. However it's not clear on how to set up the programmer for this type. More study needed.

Plaz
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: freqmax on October 31, 2007, 12:56:54 PM
For any people interested in development I think programming the MCU by one self is a must. Otherwise the MCU firmware can't be fixed to support write operations and hardfile.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: whiteb on October 31, 2007, 01:17:10 PM
@Plaz:

What Pic programmer have you got ?
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Plaz on October 31, 2007, 04:27:04 PM
@freqmax

True, but some may not be interested in development. For any who would get preprogrammed PIC's they'd have to know they're stuck with what they have. To get further updates, they'd have to get/learn to use a programmer or hassle with more costs and shipping to get future updates.

Plaz
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Plaz on October 31, 2007, 04:35:28 PM
It's a willem I bought a couple years ago when my old DOS based one couldn't cover all the chip I wanted to use. It looks like this.....

Willem "Enhanced" (http://www.keeelectronics.com/catalog/images/enhanced-2.jpg)

By using the WinPic800 software, it's supposed to support 18F PICs. Get that software here... http://www.willem.org/ZIP/WinPic800359.zip (http://www.willem.org/ZIP/WinPic800359.zip)

I've not had a chance the past couple days to try it, and tonight I'll be out with kids for tricks/treats. I'll report back when I know more.

Plaz

Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: ShawnDude on October 31, 2007, 04:43:29 PM
So thats about $110 plus the board and labor.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: fuguben on November 02, 2007, 02:12:43 AM
Thanks for putting that list together Plaz. I've put it into Digikey and the following items are out of stock:

122-1519-ND IC SPARTAN-3 FPGA 400K 208-PQFP
P833-ND 100UF 16V MINI ALUM ELECT (KA)
P8008S-ND 6MM LIGHT TOUCH SWITCH 160GF

The SD card connector came up as discontinued.
361-1025-1-ND CONN MULTIMEDIA CARD PUSHPULL

Does anyone know of anywhere to get the spartan? I've trawled the web earlier and came up with nothing, most places require minimum order sizes. Nuhorizons are also out of stock on the spartan but have a slightly shorter lead time (4 weeks). Either way, digikey or nuhorizons, its still going to be some time in December and I wanted to get this project off the ground before then  :-)

Its really cool to see the new amiga hardware being created by the users, very exciting times indeed! Thanks Dennis and everyone else involved!
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: whiteb on November 02, 2007, 02:45:57 AM
Quote

Plaz wrote:
@freqmax

True, but some may not be interested in development. For any who would get preprogrammed PIC's they'd have to know they're stuck with what they have. To get further updates, they'd have to get/learn to use a programmer or hassle with more costs and shipping to get future updates.

Plaz


Not really, if you are getting the chip Pre-Programmed, then get a bootloader stuck on the chip.  No need for "Reflashing" with a prommer.  All you do, is catch the Boot Loader's Listen window (usually the first 1 second after power on), and upload new firmware. (For Pic's that support *SELF* programming).  That is what Wizard66 offers with his Pic's, Bootloader or Firmware.  ANY sane person would go for Bootloader.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: freqmax on November 02, 2007, 08:05:16 AM
Bootloader and firmware won't interfere with eachother?
Or eat up memory that is needed for other stuff..?
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: whiteb on November 02, 2007, 08:11:21 AM
Quote

freqmax wrote:
Bootloader and firmware won't interfere with eachother?
Or eat up memory that is needed for other stuff..?


Why would they, The PROM has 32K of storage, The Firmware is about 13K and the Loader is...... 100 Words (Bytes ?) long.

Everything it needs is on the Prom.  The Firmware or Bootloader takes *NO* system resources from the Amiga Chipset.

The Firmware's ONLY job, is to flash the FPGA at power up, and to control the MMC.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Plaz on November 03, 2007, 05:03:48 PM
Been down and out with a bug for the past few days... time to catch up.

@fuguben

Thanks for double checking. We knew the Spartans were on back order, but the other parts showed  "in stock" when I last looked. I should be able to sub the caps and buttons, but the multimedia card was the last one digikey showed being carried. If we find another source for the Spartan maybe they'll carry a mm-card connector too? Any one know if there's a competitor chip that is 100% compatible with the Spartan? I've started looking, but haven't found one yet.

Plaz
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Plaz on November 03, 2007, 05:05:40 PM
@whiteb

Quote
ANY sane person would go for Bootloader.


I'm rarely accused of being sane :-), but it sounds like a good idea to me if it works. (and it sounds like it does)

Plaz
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: amigadave on November 03, 2007, 05:16:23 PM
Quote

whiteb wrote:
Quote

Plaz wrote:
@freqmax

True, but some may not be interested in development. For any who would get preprogrammed PIC's they'd have to know they're stuck with what they have. To get further updates, they'd have to get/learn to use a programmer or hassle with more costs and shipping to get future updates.

Plaz


Not really, if you are getting the chip Pre-Programmed, then get a bootloader stuck on the chip.  No need for "Reflashing" with a prommer.  All you do, is catch the Boot Loader's Listen window (usually the first 1 second after power on), and upload new firmware. (For Pic's that support *SELF* programming).  That is what Wizard66 offers with his Pic's, Bootloader or Firmware.  ANY sane person would go for Bootloader.


I asked Wizard66 about the two choices offered with his preprogrammed PICs and he replied that the two options are no longer needed, but eBay does not allow editing the auction text once it has been started.  He did not state anything further, so I don't know what I am getting, bootloader, or no bootloader?

I will ask for more clarification and post his reply, unless he sees this post and answers it here before I get an answer to a private email.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Plaz on November 03, 2007, 05:30:09 PM
BTW, has any one checked into using the Spartan 3E? It comes in the same pin package as the Spartan 3 but has more I/O and 500K gates.  If it's functionally compatible otherwise, we might be able to use a 3E instead. Digikey says they have those in stock. I'll be reading some datasheets about it when I get time this weekend.

Plaz
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: whiteb on November 04, 2007, 11:39:50 AM
More I/O's means more pins, and the pinout will be different
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: little on November 04, 2007, 02:12:04 PM
Quote

whiteb wrote:
More I/O's means more pins, and the (XC3S500E) pinout will be different

This has beed discussed (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=30516) before (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=32059) and deemed feasible by freeqmax.


Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: freqmax on November 04, 2007, 03:14:45 PM
You "might" find this interesting: :-D
http://www.opencircuits.com/Xilinx_XC3S400_and_XC3S500E_pin_comparison

A reroute will be neccessary, updated core. Other than that it should be like simple chip swap.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Plaz on November 04, 2007, 03:39:44 PM
Quote
More I/O's means more pins, and the pinout will be different


The both have 208 pin packages so the solder pads match. It depends on how differnt the pin outs are and IF they are otherwise funtionally compatible.

Plaz
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Plaz on November 04, 2007, 03:42:31 PM
@freqmax

Great stuff, thanks. Much prettier than the pdf spec sheets I was looking at. :-P

Plaz
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: amigadave on November 07, 2007, 05:19:55 AM
Quote

Plaz wrote:
@amigadave

I hope others find it useful. With the dollar in a slide, I figure even those outside the USA might find the prices better than purchasing with their own currency locally. All the more reason I tried to make it all RoHS compliant.

Quote
I wonder if anyone has figured out how to change the MiniMig from PAL to NTSC?


I'm just happy that it has VGA so I can get away from the old monitors and TV's. If I were able to connect my video toaster to minimig, then I'd probably be interested in NTSC. Otherwise I don't see needing it for myself.

Quote
I will delay my MiniMig assembly until a way to make it NTSC is discovered.


You could still build it, attach a VGA monitor, then mod it later when and if NTSC gets worked out.

Plaz


Just saw this (late reading it) and I guess I don't really need to worry about the PAL vs NTSC problem with it having VGA output.  I don't know what problems I will run into when trying to run NTSC games on the PAL Minimig though?  Will it work still, or will there be display problems, timing problems even though I am looking at the VGA display?
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: AJCopland on December 02, 2007, 08:32:06 PM
Ah the old threads are the best, anyway, here's my slightly revised list, revised because PCC101CGCT-ND was labelled as PCC470CGCT-ND which might have caused some confusion:

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(Part #)           (Description)                (Units) (Price/Unit)
122-1519-ND        (IC SPARTAN-3 FPGA)             x 1   25.45
706-1048-ND        (IC SRAM 8MB)                   x 2   11.25
MC68SEC000AA16-ND  (IC CPU)                        x 1   13.39
PIC18LF252-I/SP-ND (IC PIC)                        x 1   9.70
AE9828-ND          (IC Socket for PIC)             x 1   1.14
296-8326-5-ND      (IC 74HC4060)                   x 1   0.56
ICL3232ECV-16Z-ND  (IC DL RS232 3-5.5V 16TSSOP)    x 1   3.42
LM1117MP-ADJCT-ND  (IC Regulator)                  x 3   1.31

P833-ND            (Cap 100uf 16V elect)           x 4   0.15
P819-ND            (Cap 22uF 35V elect)            x 1   0.15
399-3195-1-ND      (Cap Tant 100uf 6.3V)           x 4   0.93
PCC1840CT-ND       (Cap .1UF *100nf 50V 0805)      x 3   0.87 (10/pack)
PCC103BNCT-ND      (Cap 10000pf *10nf 50V 0805)    x 3   0.41 (10/pack)
PCC220CNCT-ND      (Cap 22pf 50V 0805)             x 1   0.69 (10/pack)
PCC470CGCT-ND      (Cap 47pf 50V 0805)             x 1   0.49 (10/pack)
PCC101CGCT-ND      (Cap 100pf 50V 0805)            x 1   0.49 (10/pack)

160-1579-1-ND      (Led Blue)                      x 1   0.40
160-1196-1-ND      (Led Red)                       x 1   0.22
160-1414-1-ND      (Led Green)                     x 1   0.12
BAV99FSCT-ND       (Diode Sot23)                   x 5   0.13

535-9046-ND        (Crystal 20.000MHZ)             x 1   0.39
300-8473-ND        (Crystal 4.33619MHZ)            x 1   0.70

311-1.00MCRCT-ND   (RES 1.00M OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)    x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-560CRCT-ND     (RES 560 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)      x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-1.00KCRCT-ND   (RES 1.00K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)    x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-270CRCT-ND     (RES 270 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)      x 3   0.80 (10/pack)
311-100CRCT-ND     (RES 100 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)      x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-180CRCT-ND     (RES 180 OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)      x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-2.20KCRCT-ND   (RES 2.20K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)    x 1   0.80 (10/pack)
311-4.70KCRCT-ND   (RES 4.70K OHM 1/8W 1% 0805)    x 1   0.80 (10/pack)

CP-102AH-ND        (CONN Power Jack)               x 1   0.42
CP-4060-ND         (CONN MINI-DIN 6POS FEMALE)     x 2   1.11
A35120-ND          (CONN VGA DSUB HD 15POS)        x 1   1.81 (US Only)
A35107-ND          (CONN Serial 9Pin)              x 2   0.86 (US Only)
S5800-40-ND        (CONN HEADER 40POS 1x40)        x 1   1.33
^^^^^ Cut this connector to needed sizes
CP-3524NG-ND       (CONN 3.5MM RT ANGLE Audio)     x 1   0.78
361-1025-1-ND      (CONN MULTIMEDIA CARD PUSHPULL) x 1   2.57 (US Only)
P8008S-ND          (Switch 6MM LT-TOUCH 160GF)     x 3   0.29


I'm buying parts here in the UK now that I've been paid. It looks like FGPA and SRAM should be in quite soon, around about the 9th december. However the LEDs and a whole bunch of other parts are on back order until the END of JANUARY 2008.

Also some of those parts from the original list are US only. I haven't checked the US site yet to see about shipping.

The sub-total for 2x the above list (as i'm buying for two MiniMigs) is £92.78

Andy
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: CD32Freak on December 02, 2007, 09:13:47 PM
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Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: AJCopland on December 02, 2007, 09:23:44 PM
Good to know for next time. Luckily that's one part I don't need to worry about as my friend (myself and a friend are building these) has a samples account with them so has got our PICs for free :-D

Andy
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: CD32Freak on December 07, 2007, 02:29:04 PM
Nevermind, my bad
:python: :-D
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: MiniMorph on December 07, 2007, 06:47:06 PM
I am sure you all know but with the Core Ported to the Altera DE1 (150 USD) there is less need build your own FPGA board.

A small adapter will be needed for the joystick ports and a couple of components added to allow a mouse to be plugged in. I think if all you want to do is run the Minimig Core then the Altera DE1 looks a better option. I think actually the Altera DE1 is a better option all round but YMMV.

The DE1 will also be much better at running any large non 68000 designs as the FPGA is bigger than on Dennis's board.

As I said in the other thread I have 5 DE1's on the way to the UK from Taiwan. I have not decided yet how many of those I will sell on.

To those in the US who think I am crazy, buying things from outside the EC in the UK is a major pain with carriage, fees and VAT to pay. The carriage and fees are pretty much the same no matter how many you buy, which makes it cheaper per board the more you order.

I hope to get my Minimig DE1 running in the next week. I can report back here if people want.


Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: AJCopland on December 07, 2007, 08:21:51 PM
Quote

MiniMorph wrote:
I am sure you all know but with the Core Ported to the Altera DE1 (150 USD) there is less need build your own FPGA board.

Ah yes but the building of our own is, for me, something of a dream having seen everything from Dennis' first post through to the open sourcing of the whole design. I want to hold one that I've built in my own hands... and then play Syndicate on it :-D

Plus by doing it ourselves we can have a constantly evolving hardware platform that is truly our own. Hence why I'm spending more time learning to use gEDA than I am with my shiny new GeForce 8800GT that arrived the other day!! :S I want to make something great into something better that others can benefit from!

We, the amiga community, are what is great about what remains of the amiga. So know _we_ get to make of this MiniMig what we want of the Amiga.

Andy
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Colin_Camper on December 07, 2007, 08:42:31 PM
@AJCopland

I fully agree.
Minimig will never be the same on a dev board.

Don't get me wrong. I think the DE1/2 effort is fantastic and I take my hat of to Tobias (Number One, Make it so! Engage!).

In fact I received my DE2 today!

But I have built and am building V1.1 Minimigs and it's great to have these out in the wild for reference and kudos.

I intend to try and design a bespoke board for the Altera and build it - unless someone else beats me to it with an equal or better design!  :-)
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: MiniMorph on December 08, 2007, 01:20:33 AM
I know exactly what you are talking about.

I was very tempted to buy a mini morph platform until I realised it was very much tied to  a 68000 based system.

The achievement that tobiflex has come up with is that the   achievie profoundly changes what can be done with this FPGA platform.

Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Makanaki on December 09, 2007, 04:44:16 PM
Quote

fuguben wrote:
Thanks for putting that list together Plaz. I've put it into Digikey and the following items are out of stock:

122-1519-ND IC SPARTAN-3 FPGA 400K 208-PQFP
P833-ND 100UF 16V MINI ALUM ELECT (KA)
P8008S-ND 6MM LIGHT TOUCH SWITCH 160GF

The SD card connector came up as discontinued.
361-1025-1-ND CONN MULTIMEDIA CARD PUSHPULL

Does anyone know of anywhere to get the spartan? I've trawled the web earlier and came up with nothing, most places require minimum order sizes. Nuhorizons are also out of stock on the spartan but have a slightly shorter lead time (4 weeks). Either way, digikey or nuhorizons, its still going to be some time in December and I wanted to get this project off the ground before then  :-)

Its really cool to see the new amiga hardware being created by the users, very exciting times indeed! Thanks Dennis and everyone else involved!


I got 5 units from AVNET but using the account from work (they usually sells only large quantities).
The only part I can´t get is the SD/MMC connector. It is discontinued and out of stock in big electronics distributors (RS,Farnell,Digikey,etc..).

Does anyone knows where to find this card socket or compatible?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: HenryCase on December 09, 2007, 05:58:20 PM
Quote
Makanaki wrote:
The only part I can´t get is the SD/MMC connector. It is discontinued and out of stock in big electronics distributors (RS,Farnell,Digikey,etc..).

Does anyone knows where to find this card socket or compatible?

Thanks.


So this is the part you are missing:
Link (http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/303346-conn-multimedia-card-pushpull-c709-10a007-1001.html)

I think this should be a suitable replacement part. It's only slightly smaller, so it should fit where the original part went, and does the same job as far as I can tell:
Link (http://coxoc.manufacturer.globalsources.com/si/6008800038740/pdtl/Memory-card/1002479292/MMC-Connector.htm)

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Makanaki on December 09, 2007, 07:12:30 PM
Thanks HenryCase for your reply. I will take a look to check if  it is ok to mount that.

Regards.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Colin_Camper on December 09, 2007, 08:00:39 PM
Isn't this the actual part Dennis used?

MMC at Farnell (http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/Connectors/IC+&++Component+Sockets/MULTICOMP/SDBMF-00715B0T0/displayProduct.jsp?sku=9186212&_requestid=107523)

Currently showing nearly 2000 in stock...
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: AJCopland on December 09, 2007, 08:59:02 PM
Good of you to post taht Colin, I need one of those as well :)
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Makanaki on December 10, 2007, 04:57:29 PM
Nice, I was looking for SD at farnell and it is out of stock, this one is the same but different code, the picture looks same.
Anyway I was trying to get another PCB from nusim and they sold out everything. Asked them about if they plan to sell them again and answered me that a new PCB is on the way, even cheaper.

The dilema is what to buy now.. maybe some changes will be made to the PCB?

Regards.
Title: Re: Minimig BOM List for Digikey
Post by: Makanaki on December 17, 2007, 09:58:02 PM
Quote

ICL3232ECV-16Z-ND (IC DL RS232 3-5.5V 16TSSOP) x 1 3.42


Warning.. this part number doesn´t match with minimig rev 1.1, the one you need is a SOIC encapsulated.