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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: IOWASURFER on October 13, 2007, 02:38:20 AM

Title: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: IOWASURFER on October 13, 2007, 02:38:20 AM
Man what does a Amiga hobbyist...
have to do to get a /flicker fixer/scan doubler
who do you have to kill or inherit who's estate man
they seem as rare as hens teeth or golden eggs..

I have been checking ebay all summer now fall??
Running several 1200's have a couple
flat screens and want to show the kids Amiga can be cool!

--Joe
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: RW222 on October 13, 2007, 02:45:19 AM
First you have to charge up your karma by humping my leg or sending me an '040 or '060 A1200 trapdoor accelerator...

Then a magic fairy will appear and give you this link...
http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/video-vga_adapter.html
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: Damion on October 13, 2007, 02:58:19 AM
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IOWASURFER wrote:
Man what does a Amiga hobbyist...
have to do to get a /flicker fixer/scan doubler
who do you have to kill or inherit who's estate man
they seem as rare as hens teeth or golden eggs..

I have been checking ebay all summer now fall??
Running several 1200's have a couple
flat screens and want to show the kids Amiga can be cool!

--Joe


See my first post in this (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=31900) thread.

The device RW222 linked to looks pretty cool (reasonably priced anyhow), *if* the VGA input isn't simply a pass-through.

Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: whiteb on October 13, 2007, 03:31:19 AM
Get a minimig :)

It has a scan doubler built into its core.
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: guru-666 on October 13, 2007, 09:00:08 AM
does that vga converter work?
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: Everblue on October 13, 2007, 09:37:28 AM
Not with games.
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: alexh on October 13, 2007, 08:55:29 PM
Yes it does, and with games but it sucks ass and is over priced.

It has only analog CVBS (or S-Video) input and 16-bit output so the quality is HORRIBLE.

You need an RGB one to have even tolerable quality.
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: IOWASURFER on October 15, 2007, 03:27:13 PM

So I guess I will just have to go with a monster cable and my good ole composite video out to a TV..

Since scan doublers/flicker fixers are so rare :(

Joe..
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: hamtronix on October 15, 2007, 03:41:45 PM
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IOWASURFER wrote:

So I guess I will just have to go with a monster cable and my good ole composite video out to a TV..

Joe..


If you mean the brand Monster Cable. Save your money they are not worth it at all. Just get a decent shieled cable and you will be just as happy with the output.
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: trip6 on October 15, 2007, 03:56:50 PM
Somebody also mentioned once that this will work also instead of a scandoubler:

http://www.js-technology.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=52&osCsid=62be0e33cbe8cae027ea801bb2b18169

Can't say if it will or won't... I haven't tried it...
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: alexh on October 15, 2007, 04:02:04 PM
It wont.

That is a HDTV component to VGA converter!

This RGB to VGA adapter from the same place WILL work but at £99 it is overly expensive.

http://www.js-technology.com/product_info.php?cPath=22&products_id=33&osCsid=62be0e33cbe8cae027ea801bb2b18169
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on October 15, 2007, 04:18:09 PM
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RW222 wrote:
First you have to charge up your karma by humping my leg or sending me an '040 or '060 A1200 trapdoor accelerator...

Then a magic fairy will appear and give you this link...
http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/video-vga_adapter.html

Only s-video input? And then, 89 dollar?
What a lousy deal, really. For that price it should also support RGBS.
I got my e-tech TV box for app. 40 euros, and it has the same functionality plus it has a tv tuner.
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: hamtronix on October 15, 2007, 04:55:14 PM
I posted here to get mine. Some nice other Amiga user had one and responded. Why nottry that. They do also show up on Ebay occasionally.
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: sweetlilmre on October 15, 2007, 09:43:42 PM
Hi,

As hamtronix said: eBay. I have bought a few from there, but be prepard to pay (80-100 quid +). Also try amibench  www.amibench.org (http://www.amibench.org)

I got a Micronik SD (no FF) internal from an ad on there. The plain SD's can sometimes be a lot cheaper. With Hires No Flicker mode (dblPal driver I think) WB looks great. Load games via WHDLoad and you are all set.

I currently have this setup with a 4GB SD card and an 030 which makes for a sweet gaming machine.
HTH
-(e)
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: hardlink on October 15, 2007, 10:14:28 PM
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alexh wrote:

This RGB to VGA adapter from the same place WILL work but at £99 it is overly expensive.


Overly expensive? That's about the price an old Amiga external SD/FF seem to sell for on ebay. And You would get a warranty. Expensive, yes, but probably the only way to get a SD/FF immediately, at least if you can make the required Amiga-to-converter cable.
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: alexh on October 15, 2007, 11:20:35 PM
I've seen similar boxes for $55-60 or £30-35.

It's only 16-bit RGB and it has to convert Analog to Digital to Analog again which can affect quality.

Internal Amiga ones stay in the digital domain and can (some) do 24-bit which offers better picture quality for AGA gfx.
Title: Re: scandoublers/flickerfixers ( The missing links)
Post by: hardlink on October 17, 2007, 03:44:48 PM
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alexh wrote:
I've seen similar boxes for $55-60 or £30-35.

It's only 16-bit RGB and it has to convert Analog to Digital to Analog again which can affect quality.

Internal Amiga ones stay in the digital domain and can (some) do 24-bit which offers better picture quality for AGA gfx.


All true, but internal ones are rare as McEwen sightings on this side of the pond. I have an external one from Software Hut that was in the range of US $175, that is of course analog->digital->analog, and the image quality is not great, but even those are not available anymore due to an obsolete component (see an old thread).