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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: on July 09, 2003, 12:42:55 AM
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Seeing as the SharkPPC will be a PCI card, would it be possible to have AOS4 running on it using an x86 CPU and motherboard?
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mdma wrote:
Seeing as the SharkPPC will be a PCI card, would it be possible to have AOS4 running on it using an x86 CPU and motherboard?
Have you been drinking again? :-D
AOS4 can't use the x86 CPU, that's why you'd be sticking the PPC in there :-)
Sorry I couldn't resist.
I would suggest that it might be possible with the correct drivers... but does the Shark function like a normal PCI card? or does it expect certain privilages? since it should be the Booting card...
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haha I'd be content with it being used in a sense of cyberstorm emulation for uae.
other then that it might be possible if it's bios can take over the machine... but other then that ... I'd doubt it..
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Anyone fancy trying it in their x86 sometime? If so, can u post results here? Thanks
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Samuar wrote:
Anyone fancy trying it in their x86 sometime? If so, can u post results here? Thanks
Sure send me one... I'll even try and get it to work.
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bloodline wrote:
mdma wrote:
Seeing as the SharkPPC will be a PCI card, would it be possible to have AOS4 running on it using an x86 CPU and motherboard?
Have you been drinking again? :-D
AOS4 can't use the x86 CPU, that's why you'd be sticking the PPC in there :-)
Sorry I couldn't resist.
I would suggest that it might be possible with the correct drivers... but does the Shark function like a normal PCI card? or does it expect certain privilages? since it should be the Booting card...
Smoking God's natural pain-killer this time! :-D
The reason I ask, is that I get the impression from the Elbox website that the A1 version of OS4 will run un-modified on the Shark.
A slightly modifed Amithlon + SharkPPC could boot into OS4/MorphOS perhaps?
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Smoking God's natural pain-killer this time! :-D
God's own eh? must be good sh1t, I get mine from a large bloke called Winston outside Camden tube...
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bloodline wrote:
Smoking God's natural pain-killer this time! :-D
God's own eh? must be good sh1t, I get mine from a large bloke called Winston outside Camden tube...
:lol:
This is grown in my mates greenhouse of all places! First batch, and it's very nice.
Made some 'Chocolate Fudge' with it last week as the missus doesn't smoke. It went down a treat! :-D
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sharkppc....there aint any... i doubt one will ever come...
if it was working it would have been out ages ago, for like running LINUX etc..
besides elbox and hyperion doesnt seem to work together yet either....anyway i might be telling FUD atm... so anyone...please correct me if i am wrong.
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But the question we are all asking is -- can you smoke Mr Sheen?
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@lempkee
was working it would have been out ages ago, for like running LINUX etc..
Here is my translation of the part of ACP (www.amiga.com.pl) interview with Elbox. It is about Linux on Shark.
RS: Why have you not presented Shark in action? Did you manage to run Linux in Shark?
MB: We are not interested in the Linux market at all. Linux users have at their disposal a much cheaper and equally effective platform for this system, that is the x86. I believe that such processor cards would not be interesting for Linux users. We are determined to focus on the markets, which ensure real demand for our products. That's why the decision not to start producing SharkPPC cards before readiness of the AmigaOS4 system for boards based on G3/G4 processors. Our private talks to persons related to Hyperion indicate that adaptation of the AOS4 system for AmigaOne for the needs of SharkPPC cards should not take them more than several days.
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Hello
8 years ago I put together 2 YARC Passive PCI PPC601 SMP (8 Mb RAM) cards
inside ordinary Dell Pentium/75 MHz with TAOS
(precursor of Intent / AmigaDE).
Perhaps if TotalImpact or Omnicluster can create
a similiar Passive PCI card with PowerPC970 2.5 GHz
and 256 Mb RAM, I will try again.
SharkPPC: If Shark use passive PCI bus and dual
ported memory interface, perhaps it is possible
to use it on PC with the correct AmigaDE / Intent
device driver.
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mdma wrote:
Seeing as the SharkPPC will be a PCI card, would it be possible to have AOS4 running on it using an x86 CPU and motherboard?
That would be nice i.e. barebones PPC G3/G4 CPU + AOS 4.0 ROM** + some SDRAM sockets on a PCI card. It should be cheaper to produce than a full-featured PPC motherboard. **Packaged with AmigaOS 4.0 Installation CD.
The same barebones PPC G3/G4 on PCI card could be use for embedded PPC related solutions (coupled with a very basic bus board).
I do have an old ICL 486DX33 on a card with X86 BIOS, and some SIMM sockets (fitted with 20MB RAM). This old card can be use on to a (ICL) basic bus board** for standalone purposes....
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Our private talks to persons related to Hyperion indicate that adaptation of the AOS4 system for AmigaOne for the needs of SharkPPC cards should not take them more than several days.
Oh man... they trusted a Hyperion time estimate? Are they crazy or what!? :-D
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mdma wrote:
Seeing as the SharkPPC will be a PCI card, would it be possible to have AOS4 running on it using an x86 CPU and motherboard?
It would be neat if you could add a few of these to an A1/Peg for multiprocessing. Seeing as how each one would be separated from the others by a PCI bridge though, don't know how practical that would be.
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Lando wrote:
Our private talks to persons related to Hyperion indicate that adaptation of the AOS4 system for AmigaOne for the needs of SharkPPC cards should not take them more than several days.
Oh man... they trusted a Hyperion time estimate? Are they crazy or what!? :-D
yes, something doesn't seem right, this goes back to the, 'but my vendor told me something', and it's not my fault excuse every company around here uses for their failures....right now Elbox doesn't have a solid commitment, and they should know it...somehow they don't.
And, then the other funny thing, that I could never quite understand...Amiga, Inc. says they never got a dime for Amithlon, never a dime for OS 3.9, never a dime for OS 3.5, presumably not a dime off Kickstart sales, Amiga Forever sales don't seem to show up anywhere....
Certainly they don't have any money from AmigaONE sales....in fact, they go into court all the time, saying they don't have any money at all.
I naturally ASSUME then that the deal with Microsoft was a no money deal, and that they never got a dime from Game pak sales, and they certainly couldn't have made any money from AmigaDE sales.
It seems they don't get any money from anything, but you ask all their partners about licensing, and they say, Amiga asks for too much money.
*shrug*
but, I won't go there....more....
time to start developing again...(well next week I'll have my pegasos set-up...) I do hope that the SharkPPC comes out sometime with OS 4 support.
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I guess Gateway gets the Amiga Forever licence money, assuming it wasn't one large upfront licence.
Since Gateway actually own the Amiga IP, and Amiga Only licence (albeit free, AFAIK) it themselves.
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takemehomegrandma asked;
But the question we are all asking is -- can you smoke Mr Sheen?
Hmmmmmmmmm! You could try that question on Conan - the Bubbleman!
the BIG picture (http://www.conanthebubbleman.com.au/ephemera/smokecrop.jpg)