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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Invisix on October 04, 2007, 11:15:41 PM
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Hey All,
Just wondering how much my towered Amiga 1200 is worth, pretty much the full system specs are in my sig. I am just wondering how much it is worth, and would like to know who would be interrested in purchasing it. Thanks in advance. :-D
P.S. The ToastScan Scan Doubler/Flicker Fixer will not be included... gonna need it for my A4000 i'm planning on buying.
P.P.S. I live in the USA
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Why sell your great setup? Add a Mediator and Voodoo 3000 and you will have a system to rival any A4000.
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ALOT! 'Nuff said... xD
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@amigakit
My Amiga 1200 setup does include a Mediator PCI 1200 SX. :)
The reasons I am thinking of selling it are so many opinions from one of my previous threads, you may read it here (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=31798).
Some people seem to state that a souped-up towered A4000 is better and/or more powerful than a souped-up towered A1200. I don't know, i'm kinda confused. It was always my assumption that an A1200 with a Blizzard 1260 was as powerful as an A4000 '060, just minus the zorro slots, thus a souped up A1200 would be just a powerful as a souped up A4000... I do know that the A4000 PPC accelerator board is faster since it has a PPC604e CPU and the A1200 PPC board has a PPC603e. :lol: :-?
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Why does it matter to you?
If you really want to know search for each individual part at auctions sites or at retailers... add it up and roll around on your monitor!
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Okay well, I calculated things up and it comes to a little over $1,400 USD for my A1200 setup. It would be over DOUBLE that for a full A4000 upgrade. :-o
I somehow still think performance wise my A1200 is equivalent to an upgraded A4000 just minus the Zorro slots, am I correct in thinking this? :-?
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@Invisix
OK - you have the Mediator SX already so if you add a Voodoo graphics card, this will radically change your A1200's capabilities. AGA/ECS is one of the main performance constraints on an A1200 system (even with an 060). If the system has PCI with Voodoo added, this will exceed performance of any Zorro graphics card in an A4000. The Voodoo chipset is far faster than the Virge DX in the Cybervision 64/3D and the Cirrus Logic GD5446 in the Picasso IV. Similary a 100MB PCI network card would outstrip the X-Surf and Ariadne.
Of course A4000s can be the better system when they have a Mediator added, but that would require re-investment in a different Amiga system for you. The performance differences may not justify the cost differences between systems.
The benefits of a high spec A4000 (Mediator+Cyberstorm PPC) over a high spec A1200 (Mediator+Blizzard PPC) are:
- A1200 Mediator has 8MB transfer window constraint - this only affects when large amounts of data need to be sent. A4000 Mediator doesnt suffer from the low limit.
- A4000 Cyberstorm PPC has superior PPC CPU to A1200 BlizzardPPC - may not be that important as very little software makes use of the performance benefit of the 604
- A4000 Cyberstorm PPC has superior SCSI to the A1200 BlizzardPPC - this is one main difference that requires consideration if you wish to use SCSI devices
- A4000 has slightly higher performance access to chipram - only used for legacy AGA/ECS applications- not used when using RTG and RTA.
- A4000 has Zorro III - you will have to decide if Zorro III is relevant to your intended use of the system.
- One small point: the Blizzard PPC and (Blizz 1260+SCSI kit) can have maximum 256MB Fast Mem, whereas the Cyberstorm can have a max 128MB of Fast Mem. May be relevant if you use Pagestream or similar applications that consume a lot of memory.
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Doesn`t A4000 Mediator allow pci cards proper dma? That`s gotta` be a pretty major benefit.
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@amigakit
I am going to give-up the PC scene (I have modern consoles to get my modern day game urges on), and I am going to use Amiga as an everyday computer: internet, music, demo scene demos, and classic games.