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Title: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 05:02:59 PM
ok, another question...i am really curious about the delphina flipper .

but i have a fast ata and a1200...
its a clockport card right? ..

does it work fully in my system?

how do i connect it etc...

thanx for help!!
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: PaSha on July 07, 2003, 05:39:34 PM
The delfina flipper can be connected by clockport, zorro or pci :)
so if you have your a1200 in a tower, it works in a zorro or pci slot AFAIK.

-Paul
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 05:44:37 PM
i have pci yes..but the flipper pci version aint out yet and besides i belived it was for later models only (no elbox stuff yet)

so...clockport is my only option....
any suggestions? ..any ways of having both a flipper and a powerflyer fast ata in it?
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: PaSha on July 07, 2003, 05:53:07 PM
I see... I assume the fastata uses the clockport.
So the only option would be to use some sort of clockport-doubler. Not sure if it works, though, since both the fastata and the delfina need most of the clockports capacity.
Or, you could just buy a cheap pci soundcard instead. But I guess you have a reason for wanting the delfina?

-Paul
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: Dragster on July 07, 2003, 05:54:23 PM
@Lemp ;)

Well, as you say, the flipper interface is not out yet, this means you can connect the board only to a clock port or a expansion port of any Individual Computer Zorro cards. As you do not seem to have any Zorro stuff, your only option is to connect it to the clock port. The delfina comes with a cable to connect it to the clock port and if I remember correctly, the powerflyer has some space to be able to connect a clock port device via cable (as long as the cable can fit in the tight space left for the port by the powerflyer itself). One more thing you need to think of is the physical place the delfina will have once it's conencted to the clock port. As it does not have any holder or backplate to fix it and the clock port cable is not (and cannot be) that long to place the board anywhere you want inside the tower. Obviously the board has to be percdectly isolated and at the same time you must be able to access the RCA-type connectors for the audio output. So, my suggestion in firstplace is to find someone with a delfina and see your connectivity and placement options and take a good decision upon that. bear in mind too that the delfina cannot reach its best performance in a clock port, it's enough to play mp3 at best quality though.

Cheers :)

Dragster
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 05:58:50 PM
pasha and drag: thanx for replies.

i need a picture of one fitted in an a1200...

and i want one because my sb128 suxx bigtime...

also remeber the fastata is allready RAISED ontop of my Ks3.1 roms... (u insert the roms aonto yer fastata..)

hope this goes well....i am so close to buy one...now if only mr indivdual computers would answer here...

Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: Dragster on July 07, 2003, 06:05:11 PM
@Lempkey

Np :)

I'd send you a pic of it, but It's connected to my Var I/O... maybe someone here has it connected to a clock port.

If the PFlier is already raised, you don't have too much trouble connecting it to the clock port, your remaining problem would be the place to fix the delfina in. Not too much problem anyway...

As for Mr. Ind. Comps... you won't see anything from him here, you have to email him directly. You can find his email addres at ami.ga


l8r

Dragster
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 06:13:38 PM
drag: well thanx.

btw i dont like his website...its a waste of time so i must email him personally i guess...
anyway i find all of this confuSing!!

help?
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: Dragster on July 07, 2003, 06:19:14 PM
Yeah, kinda sux... I meant that you can find his personal email addy there, I didn't mean to use the web page to contact him :) (you can, but it suxx hehe)

Regards

Drg
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: tjaoz on July 07, 2003, 07:34:59 PM
@lempkee

If sound quality is the most important parameter for you, you should consider purchasing a Terratec 512i Digital, not a Delphina. Terratec 512i sound quality is much better then that of Delphina's. If an MP3 decoder is a must, take a Delfina and connect it to the clock port. You will need ribbon extension for the clock port to use Delphina with Power Flyer.
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 07:51:58 PM
tjaoz:thanx for info , no i dont want a terratech 512i..i want flipper :)

where do i get such a cable? as u mention...
is it included in the package?
but does it have an extension or pass trough for the fastata then? ...many questions...a picture would reveal a whole new world to me atm :)

also my clockport is only hALF of full...still possible to use both powerflyer and del. flipper?

cheers

Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: Ponos2D on July 07, 2003, 08:30:25 PM

Terratec 512i?

This works with Mediator 1200 PCI?

Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 09:02:36 PM
ponos2d: nope i dont think so...needs SX version .

Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: Zadoc on July 07, 2003, 10:12:20 PM
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and i want one because my sb128 suxx bigtime...


Not trying to scare you out of it, but check out this (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3078) thread on the Delfina that was brought up a while ago here.

I was almost in the same boat as you (I have the Mediator and Z4 combo) and was fed up with mp3 lockups with the sb128.  I installed my Delfina onto the clockport of my Highway card in a Zorro 2 slot of the Z4 and all was okay until I installed DelfinaMPEG.device and started playing mp3's.  The Delfina gave me the 'famous' lockup and ceased to exist upon rebooting.

I sent my card back to the dealer I bought it from over 3 weeks ago now and still have yet to hear back what's going on with my card.

Hopefully(!) I simply got a defective card, but from the other problems people posted on the previous thread I'm a bit nervous about being too optimistic.

Also  this (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=3157) thread about an MHI driver for Delfina for use with the program Streamer leaves a nervous feeling too, as it is claimed that Michael Henke has left the Amiga and will no longer be updating and fixing the bugs in DelfinaMPEG.device and it's corresponding MHI driver.

I would read those two threads and take my experience with the Delfina into consideration before plunking down the rather hefty sum of the Delfina's price tag.
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 10:32:14 PM
thanx for the VITAL info zadoc...

i will put myself into a hold...and just use a MAS for now...i guess...

Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: Dr_Righteous on July 08, 2003, 12:06:24 PM
I haven't used one myself, but I would recommend the Delfina card... The univeral nature of the card gives it an advantage. That and the more money given to IC, the more cool sh** Jens can come up with!  :-D
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: lempkee on July 08, 2003, 12:52:59 PM
doc: yes i agree with you but if the card wont fit in my machine (because of my fastata etc) and if it has major bugs and no further driver updates...well i find it abit risky unless i get some good news and that fast..

pps.the money is waiting to be used atm..

cheers
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: Dr_Righteous on July 08, 2003, 01:30:49 PM
Any problems you experience with an IC product WILL be resolved. Jens is VERY good at communicating with his customers. Hell, he even responds to my emails when I come up with some insane idea involving some of his products.

As for mounting, creative use of "L brackets" can help.
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: lempkee on July 08, 2003, 04:58:30 PM
doc: yes ok...well i must get a picture of whether i can use it or not and HOW...
using a mas for now...

cheers
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: Tenacious on July 08, 2003, 08:29:02 PM
Hi Lempkee,

  If you already have the MAS player, give us a small review of how well it works.  I'm curious.
Title: Re: Delphina Flipper...should i or?
Post by: tjaoz on July 09, 2003, 02:35:54 AM
@lempkee

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where do i get such a cable? as u mention...
You can do it yourself :-)
All you need is the ribbon for 2.5" HDD and 2x11 pinheader.

 
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is it included in the package?
I do not know.

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also my clockport is only hALF of full...
It is normal. Clockport cards do not require more pins.