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Title: The king of all mice?
Post by: tokyoracer on October 01, 2007, 09:56:13 PM
Hello again,

I managed to get an Alpha Data optical mouse and would like to know if this is a good mouse.
Anyone else got one of these?

Heres the link:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=260163893939&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=016
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: koaftder on October 01, 2007, 10:02:45 PM
I have one of those, it sucks.
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: Tomas on October 01, 2007, 10:04:12 PM
Wow, did not know that there were any optical ones made for the amiga.
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: motorollin on October 01, 2007, 10:04:26 PM
At least you have your answer :lol:

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moto
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: tokyoracer on October 01, 2007, 10:13:18 PM
Does it really? I was rather hoping not to hear that but it has got to be better then the "tank 500" surely!? :-?
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: doctorq on October 01, 2007, 10:17:13 PM
I had one of these aswell...guess what?? It sucked too!

It was alright when the mousepad was without scratches, but I still prefer some of my old Logic3 mouses.
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: motorollin on October 01, 2007, 10:21:02 PM
Why not get a Cocolino? Then you can use any optical mouse you want.

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moto
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: koaftder on October 01, 2007, 10:31:11 PM
Not to piss on your ebay win dude, but moto has the best solution.

What i didn't like about that mouse you got is you have to clean the pad all the time or it doesn't work right, and you have to keep the mouse on that dang pad or it won't work at all.

A ps2 interface with a modern optical mouse is better than you'll ever want. A good modern optical mouse works on glass, on your pant leg, a raw table surface, carpet, what ever. Never gets junk on a roller, etc.
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: Terse on October 01, 2007, 10:36:45 PM
The Boing! optical mouse is quite good but uses a mirroed pad (it's a rebadged early Mouse Systems mouse)
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: motorollin on October 01, 2007, 10:38:23 PM
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koaftder wrote:
A good modern optical mouse works on glass, on your pant leg, a raw table surface, carpet, what ever.  

My IBM Scrollpoint Optical works on my dog!

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moto
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: tokyoracer on October 01, 2007, 10:39:14 PM
Well I was after real opinions so if it's crap then so be it. Reason I bought this is because of nostalgia plus to boast that I could have had the best mouse designed for Amiga. I guess that it isn't great but no doubt it's one of the first of this type and you got to start somewhere.

But this Amiga -> PS/2 converter, I have a wireless laser mouse that also has a USB -> PS/2, would that work with 2 adapters or will it work for only "pure bread" PS/2 mice? I gather wireless pure PS/2 ones will work ok?
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: koaftder on October 01, 2007, 10:39:56 PM
Quote

motorollin wrote:
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koaftder wrote:
A good modern optical mouse works on glass, on your pant leg, a raw table surface, carpet, what ever.  

My IBM Scrollpoint Optical works on my dog!

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moto


LOL, when I read that I grabbed the cat and tried mouse on him, it works, hahaha. Not as good as the pant leg though. Still...
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: koaftder on October 01, 2007, 10:43:28 PM
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tokyoracer wrote:
Well I was after real opinions so if it's crap then so be it. Reason I bought this is because of nostalgia plus to boast that I could have had the best mouse designed for Amiga. I guess that it isn't great but no doubt it's one of the first of this type and you got to start somewhere.

But this Amiga -> PS/2 converter, I have a wireless laser mouse that also has a USB -> PS/2, would that work with 2 adapters or will it work for only "pure bread" PS/2 mice? I gather wireless pure PS/2 ones will work ok?


It's hard to say. Lots of mice and kb usb type come with those usb->ps2 adapters and it's pretty standard. I have 4 optical mice that work that way and a small pile of those stupid adapters. You probably have one of those adapters lying around your crib too, if not you can find them at the pc shop for like 2 dollars. It's worth a shot.

If that pad that came with the mouse you got is in good shape and you take care of it and don't mind being confined to that pad you probably won't care anyway.
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: motorollin on October 01, 2007, 10:44:06 PM
Only problem is, the dog only likes the mouse moving in one direction :-)

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moto
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: motorollin on October 01, 2007, 10:46:37 PM
Quote
tokyoracer wrote:
But this Amiga -> PS/2 converter, I have a wireless laser mouse that also has a USB -> PS/2, would that work with 2 adapters or will it work for only "pure bread" PS/2 mice? I gather wireless pure PS/2 ones will work ok?

If the mouse works in a PS/2 port, then it will work with the Cocolino, whether it's a mouse with a PS/2 plug on it, or a mouse with a USB plug and a USB->PS/2 adapter (as long as the mouse supports this).

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moto
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: tokyoracer on October 01, 2007, 10:59:00 PM
Nice one thanks! Oh and about the dog, best to use it on his/her underbelly. Directions shouldn't matter then as-long as its quick and constant. :lol:

If only my cat didn't go missing... :-(
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: iMacMiga on October 02, 2007, 12:01:52 AM
I have a similar age/type Sun Microsystems Optical mouse for my SPARCstation, and guess what... That sucks too! :D

If you want a good mouse either the Wizard Mouse or Logic3 Speedmouse get my vote. Or you could get a Cocolino and use a nice Microsoft Mouse :)
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: robo-ant on October 02, 2007, 02:42:52 AM
I love the GoldenIMAGE 3-button optical mouse that I got with my A3k, second-hand.  It's got an Amiga/Atari switch on the bottom, so it's not build specifically only for Amiga.

It uses a special mouse pad, but it's not one of those horrible rigid reflector ones (like what I used in Uni on Sun boxes).  It's flexible, grey, with a pattern of dots on it.

I've found that it also works (imperfectly) on denim.
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: RW222 on October 02, 2007, 02:59:24 AM
I need to find a mouse solution for the A1200, the original mouse is a bit glitchy these days. Picked upa few "tank" mice for spares. Guess I'll have to look at those PS/2 mouse modding docs on aminet. Have a Commodore branded mouse somewhere, for a PC, got it post Escom bust, think it was some stock they had made up and never got to the stores. Picked it up at a computer fair.
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: adolescent on October 02, 2007, 04:56:05 AM
I miss my A3000 pregnant mouse.  But, the Wizzard mouse was pretty good too.  Now I use a cheap Logitech optical which works great.
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: DrDekker on October 02, 2007, 12:51:56 PM
I used to have an Alfa Data Optical Pen Mouse which was great for working in Deluxe Paint.  Sold it on Ebay for a fiver some months back.  No match for a PS2 optical + adapter though!
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: Waccoon on October 02, 2007, 01:20:50 PM
I have one of the really old Alpha Data mice that's shaped like a bar of soap.  I love it!  Of course, nobody else in my Amiga club liked it.

THIS one, on the other hand, looks like rubbish.  I can't stand ergonomic mice.
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: on October 02, 2007, 02:37:07 PM
I have the Golden Image GI-1000 for my A3000, this one works great!
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: tokyoracer on October 03, 2007, 01:49:13 AM
Just got one of them adapters. £15 with a floppy, not exactly cheap for what it is but should be worth while, I hope! :-)

[EDIT] Recived the optical mouse althought it's good enough when it's on the mat but overall it's pretty crap lol.
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: Kin-Hell on October 05, 2007, 01:28:25 PM
You're all way off the mark. :-P
Best mouse ever to use on an Amiga is a Microsoft Serial Mouse, re-wired inside. ;-)
I converted mine back in 1992 & was still envious at my best m8's Kidney Shaped Serial conversion. These were the High End MS mice & originally Glossy white. Mine sat in a drawer from 1994 till it was hooked up with an Amiga again in 2006. Quite yellow now but still smooth as silk to use & copes with a 1600 x 1200 Desktop with ease! :-)  

Joking aside, everyone has their own prefs, but these converted MS Serials absolutely rock aside from taking the pi$$ out of M$. :-D    
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: tokyoracer on October 05, 2007, 01:48:20 PM
I refuse contaminate my Amiga with rival parts. :lol:
Title: Re: The king of all mice?
Post by: BinoX on October 05, 2007, 04:43:08 PM
Sad to say that I use a Microsoft optical mouse with my systems (except the 3000 which has the standard pregnant mouse)