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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Tenacious on October 01, 2007, 05:28:52 PM
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I've been watching the threads related to this topic for a long time but still feel that I missed the definitive answers during one of my trips.
Is anyone in the USA using a modern monitor (LCD, CRT, etc) that syncs down to 15KHz and interfaces through analog RGB? SCART interfaces are not available in the States, AFAIK, so no need to list monitors that rely on those. I need manufacturers and model numbers, where you found it would be nice too.
As someone else said in another thread, FF/SDs are very difficult to find and the quality of the screen seems to very from great to "not worht the effort".
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Hehe... well i'm going to buy the CYP Presenter 1 + Scart to RGB cable..
Should run me about $250 USD.. little over what my scandoubler cost me, and i've got a dual input Sony which will have cybervision 64/3D on on and CYP on the other...
Here's to hoping it works! Amigakit sells the Scart to RGB cable for $25USD...
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I've had both the CYP box and a DCE ss/ff. The CYP box produced a terrible blurred image and my DCE scandoubler, although pretty good, is not comparable to native output. Also, most amiga scan doublers will not output AGA colour shades correctly, only old ECS palletts.
I recommend that you purchase a compatible CRT monitor while you still can. I have three CRTs for my Amiga, two as backup. ;) a 17" MicroVitec multisync GPM1701, a 14" Phillips CM11442 and a Sony Trinitron 14" TV. Although the Sony TV is not a monitor, the quality of the Trinitron tube makes it ideal for Amiga computing.
If the quality of output is an important factor to you, I strongly advise you to find an old compatible CRT based display while you still can. The move to LCDs is making them harder to find and the quality of CRTs which are still being manufactured today is pathetic.
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Thanks guys.
@ pan1K
Let us know what quality you get.
@ Arkanoid
I have mostly ECS machines. I'm simply bracing for the future and I have more Amigas than monitors.
Video quality is very important to me. Your assessment agrees with others I've seen, why bother connecting an Amiga to an LCD if there is any quality problems.
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There are a few Samsung LCDs listed on the BBOAH which handle 15kHz through the VGA input. However, they are not EDTVs and will not flicker-fix or scan-double. There are some newer Samsungs out there (and I may get one to try), but who knows whether or not they will work.
For workbench use, a 1280x1024 (17 or 19") LCD should look OK, since the scaling involved isn't drastic. (Also, some LCDs have better scaling algorithms than others -- Samsung is generally known to be pretty good in this regard.) However, finding one that's going to both work via d-sub AND flicker-fix laced modes is going to take some trial, error, and cash... and one may not exist. A scandoubler + LCD might work, but usually does not.
Games aren't going to look nearly as nice as they do on a good CRT. I recently spent a bunch of time and money trying a component video encoder + LCD TV with my amigas, only to be seriously disappointed when I came to the conclusion that the old C= monitors produce a superior picture. (The LCD *did* line-double and flicker-fix though, which was pretty cool.) However, some people are fine with just s-video and LCD. Just depends on how picky you are.
(In addition to the above, there's the PAL/NTSC issue to consider. Many displays only handle one or the other.)
Bottom line -- I've been searching for quite a while now, and have yet to find a good modern screen. I'm starting to think that for me, my old DCE internal scandoubler + CRT was the best it's gonna get... or maybe an LCD for workbench, and a sd/ff+CRT for everything else.
Too bad DCE doesn't produce those internal units anymore... they were actually pretty decent.