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Title: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 03:25:11 PM
this game must be one of the best i have played, just wanted to tell you all that its worth it.

can be bought at:
www.tamar.net
forematt.co.uk
and many more.

2 versions is out, the main release (3cds) and the cheap edition wich is 1 cd..

have a go, join us in the game.

also the reason for this post is more than advertising, i want to know how many of you guys who actually play this wonderfull game!!..

Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: Balti on July 07, 2003, 04:05:13 PM
Aye my young lord, you speack bodly and true for the lands
of Tamar are far and wide open to any new settlers who want
to bring back civilzation to these ruined land that was once so bright under the old
emperor.

But let an old man (~70 years) give you some advices, or you
might fall into the traps that so many eager adepts have found
before.

Do not speak up against Lords you do not know, for he might
be quite a bit bigger than you, and may even cultivate a short temper.

Respect nobles, cos most of them do cultivate a short temper.

Contact your neighbours, they are the ones you have to live with.

If your neighbours are even smaller than you, you should still
treat them with respect, cos those will be your best allies.

Don't claim more than you can take, or you might get nothing
in the end.

Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 04:36:46 PM
oh, i did not know you was now an enemy :)

anyway i am only about 10 years atm.


Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: Balti on July 07, 2003, 04:42:42 PM
@lempkee

10 years, and you still don't know Tamars biggest merchant ?

Shame on you !!  ;-)

May I ask you who the Lord is that sails under the synonym
lempkee in this odd club ?
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 05:08:27 PM
ah , i know who u are :))

i am lord tamarian.

neighbours of lord matador and charras and the newcommer lady leigh....

 
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: Balti on July 07, 2003, 05:15:38 PM
Lady Leigh ?

Something just dropped from my eyes ....

I allways wondered how Matador could know Lady Leah,
who  just settled on Nyx ( a very small island far
east from you ....

But as in real life, the more ladies the better ;)
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 05:26:23 PM
yep thats her...she landed a few blocks away from me :)

so u know where i am eh? :)

strolled about btw...seen u in the trading lists etc...

btw i am hoping for an update soon...
and does armwrestle work for you?...would be nice to win some lands that way....HAHAHA!!
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: KennyR on July 07, 2003, 05:32:52 PM
I got Tales of Tamar free, but I never figured out how to play it (no manuals). Since it costs money to play, I haven't really tried to get into it. Not much I can do with it.
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: Balti on July 07, 2003, 05:38:56 PM
@KennyR

AFAIR there were some rounds (50 ?) included with ToT-SE
(bundled with Phoenix-Peg).

Best is, drop in at #tales on irc.euirc.net port 6667.
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 06:00:44 PM
kennyR: if u have SE version u get 75 free rounds , if u dont like it after that u can just close down your account...but my guess is u wont as the game is far too good to put down... :)

cheers
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: KennyR on July 07, 2003, 07:03:19 PM
@balti & lempkee

Thanks, but are 75 (or 50) rounds really enough to learn how to play the game? It's really complicated-looking and I don't know how to start. I'm sort of leaving the 75 free rounds for when I do figure out the game but I keep putting it off and putting it off...

And yes, I did get the Peg bundled version. Lack of a manual is a big issue. :-(
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 07:09:05 PM
kennyr:NO PROB!  , you just signup on the FORUM on www.tamar.net and asking for newbie help..

and explain yer situation....
also...installing the game is wise... u dont need to reg at day 1 anyway..as u can use it in demo mode for now.

but once u have regged its not demo anymore and new features appear everyday...atleast in the start!...and even me who is 10 years out..i see new features even now :)

75 turns is more than enough ...for now...its 75 DAYS!! u know... if the pegasos bundle is only 50 turns...then its 50 DAYS...for free..

have no fear we will help and u will get addicted for sure...

next time there is a new tamar tread...then its from you i guess :)

cheers
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 07:12:08 PM
ah i forgot to mention...once u start the game...(after u are regged) u get a BARDS TALE screen , telling you what u should do...like building MILLS and grainry to make corn..
this is like your first step..

anyway the first few days u should only focus about getting and suppling them with food (your people) and TAXES ofcourse...

cheers
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: Balti on July 07, 2003, 07:20:23 PM
@KennyR

75 turns are 2.5 months or allmost 19 ToT-years, more than enough to into the game.

This is what you should do:
Install from CD.
Download the Public-CD-Update from here. (http://www.tamar.net/d_download.html)
Unpack that and simply copy it over the ToT-dir (files will
be replaced.
Start game(*).
Click on "register".
Fill in your data.
Send it.

Further question should be easily cleared in the Forum or on irc.

The game is a bit slow in the first years, but you should
use these to make contacts, and learn who might be a friend,
and who not.

(*) When playing on a Pegasos you might get some deadlocks
when ToT tries to open a shellwindow for output, but this
can be avoided by starting "tot-client-debug" from shell.
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 07:25:40 PM
anyway ... why doesnt the peg (SPECIAL) version have docs?? ..weird...anyway i love my big fat manual (book) ..its good for building stats...and research info + a few more things... but i went and asked on the forum anyway just to make sure i had understood it all..

the peg version is the same as SE ?

cheers
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: Ponos2D on July 07, 2003, 08:31:53 PM
Wooo!

This game is looking like real fun!
What genre it is? What is the most similar
game to Tales of Tamar?

Thanx
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 08:59:33 PM
ponos2d: its a strategy game ala foundation/settlers/civilization..

but its TURN based so colonization should be the best example of genere.., only thaat this is much cooler and has some wonderfull music + gfx and heaps and heaps of functions in it.

best described is.. turn based strategy/RPG and Adventure game..

check the demo out...u cant play on it really but u will get some clues on how it feels in the very first rounds... anyway where i am now compared to the demo..well i have found ALOT of more new cool stuff..

cheers..
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 09:01:12 PM
Turn based = you do your turn , but then must wait till all other have done its turn .

every player has MAX 12 hours on to do so..
every day at 12:00 in the daytime new turns are beeiing sent out from the server.

hopefully that explains some!!
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: KennyR on July 07, 2003, 09:40:11 PM
Thanks Balti. I had already installed the CD and the MOS update. Just one more question. Do my turns and/or game start the moment I register, or do I get some time to play around and learn how it works first? Unregistered, the demo is not really helpful in learning. It doesn't do much at all, in fact.
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 09:44:31 PM
nope...the game start when u reg...then u have 12 hours to learn the basic first turn....

u dont need to practice before u start!

cheers
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 09:46:16 PM
erm make that 24 hours :)

if u send in turn tomorrow after 12... it might take up to 3 days before u get the registration confirmed.

but once u have the registration u must have sent in turn by next day at NOON! (12:00)

CET time that is.

cheers
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: Balti on July 07, 2003, 09:54:28 PM
To be precise there is no "must" in sending turns.

All you really need to do is to set the green arrows in the
granary to make sure your people will be feed.

Missing even several turns won't get you killed that way
I had "cousin" (I also test the PC-Version), who when I trashed
my Win install was on "autopilot" for over 10 years.

Was still alive and kickeing after that (but killed in a war shortly afterwards).

In the first turn you should:
a) supply corn.
Make sure you could enough including the next spring turn
plus seed.

b) move your scout.
c) order research (technic is good for starters)

Optional:
Post a hello-world in the ingame tavern (mail-editor) or
the ToT-forum.
Build 2 more mills and 1 granary (in your 1st winter).
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: lempkee on July 07, 2003, 10:04:56 PM
heh...thanx for telling me this now....GRRRR!!

i let another player play on my account while i was away on vacation...

because i belived more than 2 turns not sent it would mean deATH!

anyway i am glad i let my friend guide it for the time...as i didnt loose research etc...
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: Brian Hoskins on July 07, 2003, 10:41:42 PM
Hi!

Tales of Tamar certainly is a very interesting and exciting game, if you play it properly.  The big selling point with this particular game over the other turn based stratedgy games is that you interact with REAL people and therefore you meet REAL intelligence (and real stupidity sometimes too) which obviously makes for a much more exciting and challenging game than ones which are based only on computer players.

Tales of Tamar is a very long term game, and it will take you a long long time to become powerful on Tamar.  But this is a good thing also, because it adds a tremendous and very real "risk-factor" to the game.  If you have spent months and months building your little empire, you're not going to simply throw it away carelessly, are you!!!  You will learn to be careful with whom you make friends and whom you make enemies for this very reason.

Indeed, how you interact with the other players can quite often decide your fate, good or bad!!

I am Lord Matador in the game.  Tamar's most friendly ally, and most EVIL enemy.  Watch out for me :)

Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: bhoggett on July 08, 2003, 12:53:43 AM
@lempkee

Settings the defaults should be seen as a safety feature, in case your turn gets lost or anything like that. If you're going on holiday or are away for more than two or three days you're much better off getting someone else to act as proxy.

@KennyR

Don't worry too much about not knowing exactly what to do. There is relatively little to actually do in the first few turns, and learning about how things work is part of the fun of the game. Compare it to getting life experience in Real Life (tm).
 :-)
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: bhoggett on July 08, 2003, 02:35:21 AM
@Balti
Quote
One and only rightfull heir to the thrown of count Stulle.

Well, if you're that desperate for it why don't you ask Lord Gilrain to send it over?  My guess is it's just gathering dust in some store room somewhere.
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: jeffimix on July 08, 2003, 05:10:13 PM
Am wondering, where is a webstie for this game? Is it ungraphical, or grpahical interface? This thread got me interested...
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: bhoggett on July 08, 2003, 05:25:30 PM
Tales of Tamar home page (http://www.tamar.net)
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: lempkee on July 08, 2003, 05:40:59 PM
ermm i posted the damn website link in the first post...GRRR!! .

thanx bhogget...

Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: bhoggett on July 08, 2003, 05:51:52 PM
@lempkee

Quote
ermm i posted the damn website link in the first post...GRRR!! .


Yes you did, but as a URL rather than a link. Some people have trouble with copy & pasting to the browser. :-)
Title: Re: Tales of Tamar ... how many?
Post by: Bifford on July 09, 2003, 08:50:51 PM
Hi Guys!

I play two peeps in TOT - the main one being Lord Deverry based initially on Nonakesh but also now on Tainnia.

I also have a beta (tester) game on Exevor using Lord Biffordicus.


Now. The main reason for posting - For those of you not subscribed to Total Amiga (see news item and thereafter its comment thread) firstly - SHAME ON YOU!!!! Go subscribe now!

Basically - in issue 13 I did a full review and explanation of Tales of Tamar, and in each issue after that I have (and will) run a Update article with hints & tips and "whats news" news.

So for those of you still not sure on what TOT is or how to use it these articels are a valuable addition to your knowledge (if I do say so myself ;-) heheh

TTFN
Bifford  (Lord Deverry)