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Operating System Specific Discussions => AROS Research Operating System => Topic started by: dammy on September 30, 2007, 10:21:49 PM
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It's Bug Hunting (http://aros-exec.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=2319&forum=4&post_id=18701#forumpost18701) time.
Thanks Neil C!
Dammy
TeamAROS (http://www.teamaros.org)
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Things are coming together nicely for AROS.
Am I right to think that AROS is API compatable with Amiga OS 3.1?
Would the integration of a 68K JIT emulator allow system friendly apps such as Cinema4D and Wordworth, without the overheads of custom chip emulation.
If I could eventually replace Amithlon with AROS, I'd certainly pay towards a 68K JIT bounty.
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Thanks Neil C!
Woot!
Yeehaw and welcome to AROS!
This was a big one - fantastic job!
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I'd rather see an integrated UAE, just to double click to play some good nice games, but an integrated UAE means AFAIK more than just easy gaming, the UAE (ie the emulator) should catch certain emulated OS calls and redirect to host OS functions, which would allow an app running under the emulated Amiga(OS) to communicate with AROS as if it was executing directly under AROS.
Sure this would make it considerably slower than a virtual 68K with a JIT compiler, but on the other hand the UAE solution gives you everyhing runnable under the Amiga and not just a few apps, float myCents = 0.000001;.
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I'd rather see both options side by side in AROS. UAE for classic games and apps that hit the hardware. 68K JIT for pure speed in 3D rendering and image or audio processing apps.
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Agree! :-)
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i want integrated UAE and firefox then aros is worthy a install :)
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i want integrated UAE and firefox then aros is worthy a install :)
Would you settle for Webkit (http://thenostromo.com/teamaros2/?number=49)?
Dammy
TeamAROS (http://www.teamaros.org)
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I think most would settle for anything that is compliant with todays standards.
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Einstein wrote:
I'd rather see an integrated UAE, just to double click to play some good nice games, but an integrated UAE means AFAIK more than just easy gaming, the UAE (ie the emulator) should catch certain emulated OS calls and redirect to host OS functions, which would allow an app running under the emulated Amiga(OS) to communicate with AROS as if it was executing directly under AROS.
Essentially, VirtualAmiga. I believe this is how VirtualPC works when hosting a Windows OS, though it doesn't have to emulate the x86 processor like AROS would have to emulate the 68k.
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AROS would have to emulate the 68k.
If 68k emulation is ever added to AROS, what would be the target CPU, 68000? 68030+FPU? 68040? 68060? all of them? I am curious about which core would benefit amiga legacy applications the most.
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I guess there are a couple of things people(e.g. me :-D )would like to have before switching over completely to AROS.
A nice CSS-capable browser being able to get AROS connected easily to the internet, Music and Video playing software, word processor (and some kind of Excel app for lots of people), MAME, Stella, and a couple of other emulators, a modern text editor for coding, etc...
Personally i don't care as much about classic Amiga Emulation as most other people here, but i think it will also be a nice plus if it would work.
And as much as i could check out over the last week with AROS, i feel we are not that far away from this future..
AROS rocks...
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LoadWB wrote:
Einstein wrote:
I'd rather see an integrated UAE, just to double click to play some good nice games, but an integrated UAE means AFAIK more than just easy gaming, the UAE (ie the emulator) should catch certain emulated OS calls and redirect to host OS functions, which would allow an app running under the emulated Amiga(OS) to communicate with AROS as if it was executing directly under AROS.
Essentially, VirtualAmiga. I believe this is how VirtualPC works when hosting a Windows OS, though it doesn't have to emulate the x86 processor like AROS would have to emulate the 68k.
Well once upon a time I tried to try ( :-D ) VirtualPC, didn't work, think it because of this Windows of mine that cracked up when I tried to install some alien fonts, done everything to clean up, no result, one day I should just reinstall the crap.
Anyway I was thinking, when Integrated UAE comes along, wouldn't it be good to have some good memory protection in AROS to make it alot more stable ?, I mean the integrated UAE (more precisely, the kickstart replacement) would be the whole 3.1 (maybe among other versions) environment, why not rewrite parts of AROS to make it behave better (more stable) ? and as usual: float myCents = 0.000001;.
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Anyway I was thinking, when Integrated UAE comes along, wouldn't it be good to have some good memory protection in AROS to make it alot more stable ?,
Wait for AROS64 (http://thenostromo.com/teamaros2/?number=21) to be released. :-D Initial kernel is kinda quick and dirty in order to get the rest of the core OS ported/tested. Once that is completed, Dr. Schulz is going back for major remake of the AROS64 kernel to bring it up to modern standards.
Dammy
TeamAROS (http://www.teamaros.org)
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dammy wrote:
i want integrated UAE and firefox then aros is worthy a install :)
Would you settle for Webkit (http://thenostromo.com/teamaros2/?number=49)?
Dammy
TeamAROS (http://www.teamaros.org)
as long as its as good as firefox i will settle for it, but i doubt it is....
and is there a native irc and messenger for aros?
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Messenger there is AmiGG but I can't find a good link for it. For the most stable IRC client is Wookiechat (http://wookiechat.amigarevolution.com/wookiechat/Wookie_AROS_2_6.lha).
Dammy
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dammy wrote:
Wait for AROS64 (http://thenostromo.com/teamaros2/?number=21) to be released. :-D Initial kernel is kinda quick and dirty in order to get the rest of the core OS ported/tested. Once that is completed, Dr. Schulz is going back for major remake of the AROS64 kernel to bring it up to modern standards.
Dammy
TeamAROS (http://www.teamaros.org)
Well, I truely hope so, nothing tickles me as much as MP-AROS + I-UAE, I would instantly get any officially supported (mini-)laptop to have that wonderful OS experience once those two are implemented. :popcorn:
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A kind soul uploaded AmiGG (http://archives.aros-exec.org/share/network/amigg_beta.lha) to the AROS archives (http://archives.aros-exec.org/).
Dammy
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Webkit is a rendering Engine, not a browser.
It's used for powering Safari for instance, in contrary to Firefox using the Gecko rendering engine.
Having Webkit on Aros would be awesome. Let's hope we will see that happen.
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Mike