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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Vlabguy1 on September 10, 2007, 12:55:26 AM
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2 you..
Please post your thoughts..
Thanks
Rich
ny
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a female in the spanish language
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Hi:
amiga means female friend in the spanish language.
If you read 'on the edge:the commodore story'(or whatever the right name was)they explain how the name came to be.
Cheers!!!
rednova
-mobilis in mobile-
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Thats not what he meant.
The Amiga to me is the decision I made to buy one in 1989
after making a chart with the strengths and weaknesses of the Amiga, PC, and Mac.
Hard to believe that the Amiga was once the best.
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@huronking...thank you for claifying the post..
People I know What Amiga-means in Spanish..duh..
What does it mean to YOU!!!
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Gee Thanks Rednova..as you see by the # of posts I have....Im def. not a
NEWBIE..lol
Again I ask..What is the meaning of AMIGA 2U??
Rich
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OK:
Amiga brings me fond memories of my teenage yrs. when I played games like defender of the crown and started delving into 3d animation. I loved amiga back then...and still do.
For me..the c-64 and then amiga was the greatest thing. I had now my amiga 1200 for more than 10 years..and I still love it...still use it...and it still works fine.
My favorite amiga programs now are:
-aladdin 4d (animation)
-Amos Professional (programming)
-Deluxe paint (painting)
and countless others.
Rednova
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Very nice..Rednova..that was Perfect :-)
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It once was, to me, the ideal of computers, merging of hardware and software til the whole became greater than the sum of it's parts.
But then I got into the back-side, saw the backstabbing and fighting. I saw good solutions blasted because of the "not-done-here" mentality of some. I saw a wholescale abandonment of the hardware, citing it as commodity and irrelevent. Then it became a bucket of broken promise, ruined plans and quixotic quests...
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I myself was a die-hard Amiga fan up until 2001 or so, then it all died out for me. All I can think of Amiga now is something to use and enjoy what computing used to be like. At one point it looked like there was a chance for it to grow, but we all know how that ended up. :-)
Amiga will always have a soft spot in my heart reminding me what computer was the first to accomplish many things. (Video Toaster, 4096 color pictures, etc.) :-)
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Amiga is not a female because it's a machine, so maybe it's an acronym, such
All
Marvelous
Ideas
Goes
Away
;-)
Dreams still
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The name still evokes some fondness.
But its more like nostalgia for that time in the computer world, rather than a desire for the physical machine.
In truth, I owned several Amigas and ultimately became bored with them all and moved on to other machines. Now, I'm happy to remember "Amiga" as an interesting episode in computer history.
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For me Amiga is a combination of a lot of things which make it the best computer ever, not in speed, performance or versatility, but in everything combined:
- the hardware: Amiga is just something different than any other computer, both internal (custom chips) as external (I still find them the prettiest computers ever made - especially the A3000)
- the OS: I still haven't seen an OS which boots so lightning fast from a clean install. And it's so damn easy to work with, too.
- the community: Amiga users were (and still are, albeit in smaller numbers) the most loyal group of users of ANY computer I've ever known. And also the most fanatic (some still are defending their Amiga's against modern day PCs :-) )
- versatility: it seems to me that a lot of PC users use their machines for a few things - either downloading, or making videos, or programming something, while every Amiga user seems to do everything - I mean, almost any Amiga user can tell you something about either coding, doing video stuff etc. They just all seem to be interested in pretty much ANYthing their machines can do.
- the software: to be more precise: the PD scene. We all know that Aminet was THE largest software archive of ALL computers back in the day. And that while there were so much more PCs around. I can't think of any kind of software that hasn't been made for the Amiga. Just name what you want to do - there is Amiga software for it.
I can't really say what THE thing is that attracts me to the Amiga, it just does. I don't know why either...
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Gillooo...
I guess you DONT understand the question..
Read other post..so you get the idea..
Gilloo wrote:
Amiga is not a female because it's a machine, so maybe it's an acronym, such
All
Marvelous
Ideas
Goes
Away
;-)
Dreams still
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@McVenco,
Good post..
as well as the other people who UNDERSTAND the question.. :-)..
Thank you and keep them coming..
Rich
ny
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Amiga to me is curiousity,
something mystical.
At home I had a pc, but family of mine had an Amiga.
I was wondered (being an 8yo. kid) what the Amiga actually was.
Twas kinda a pc, but yet not a pc. And it had great sound, and much of the same games as the pc.
So these had better sound, and often better graphics. Whereas lots of my games were CGA, despite I had VGA back then (1989), the same games were in 'VGA' on the Amiga.
Amiga was to me like, like playing Out of This World (Another World). Strange, new and full of promises.
Until 1997, I never had an Amiga. Then I got myself an Amiga 500.
I got myself one to be able to play games while my pc is doing processor-intensive works. Tinkering with the Amiga, I learned how it worked, and I began to understand and admire the philosophy behind it.
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rednova wrote:
(...)Amiga means female friend in the spanish language. (...)
and is not only in Spanish language, in Portuguese too.
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The Amiga means female friend to me :)
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The amiga to me is..
Useability and reliability... The interface is simple and easily learnable even for those with no computer experience (My mother can use it!) and to load a game it's as simple as putting the disk in and waiting.
Amiga hardware just works. Plug it in and off it goes. (Usually)
It's something that's been lost in the computing industry in recent years... The fact that people want to get things done as quickly as possible and with as little nonsense... These days it's more about what looks best and what rubbish they can put in with the OS... We need to see more of what the amiga once was, an fast, efficient machine made with the users in mind.
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So far we got some pretty good posts on this subject..thank you all
for taking the time to respond..
Rich
ny
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I once read an interview with Dave Haynie in which he explained what "Amiga" meant to him. I liked what he said so much I've had it on my tagline ever since. :-D
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Your tagline...works well with the subject of this thread.
Thank you very much for posting..
Rich
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mpiva wrote:
I once read an interview with Dave Haynie in which he explained what "Amiga" meant to him. I liked what he said so much I've had it on my tagline ever since. :-D
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The meaning of Amiga for me...
After using Vic20, C64, Apple IIe, 8086 and after owning Timex Sinclair 1000, Tandy Micro-Color Computer (MC-10), and Tandy Color Computer III, Tandy Model 102, the Amiga was in all of it's glory, spectacular when compared to the rest.
While in the Navy, back in 1986, a newly assigned sailor arrived on board the ship I was stationed on. We quickly found that we had common interests in astronomy, computers and electronics.
He kept telling me about how awesome his Amiga computer was compared to the Axis of Evil's offerings of the time. At that time, I had never even heard of an Amiga. I'm sure in the back of my mind I was thinking "better than Apple or IBM - No Way!" A week later he brought the A1000 on board the ship to "show it off". It was already booted up when I walked into the room where he had it set up. I didn't even get to sit down and he ran the "boing" demo...
WOW! In an instant my audio and visual sensory systems were completely overwhelmed, my knees began to weaken, my arms started shaking and tears of joy welled up in my eyes!
...and it didn't stop there! Next thing I knew, a click is made a CLI prompt appears and a moment of typing and Damn! That computer just said "Hello" to me.
The mouse, the highly engineered case with the garage for the keyboard, all of those wonderful, marvelous colors and rapidly moving graphics. I thought to myself... The Future is now! We will have a man on Mars within the decade! Where can I get an Amiga?
Then I found out how much one would cost and checked my wallet... bummer!
Then I found out that another sailor on the ship had an A1000 also and was looking for some quick cash! Deal done!
Now the proud owner of a very slightly used A1000, 1084, 1010 and a whole pile of software! Oh heck, who needs sleep anyway! Hours and hours I toiled away at the keyboard of my new electronic little friend. Soon other people came to see the two shipboard Amigas in action. Eventually the two A1000s were joined by an A2000, then an A2500. At one time there were five sailors with Amigas on a ship with a crew of 250.
I also remember many trips to Warner's in San Diego to see the latest Amigas, Accessories, software and etc. I also remember buying a lot of Fred Fish disks at a small shop in Chula Vista, CA. Unfortunately I can not remember the name right now.
I left the scene for quite a long time but kept my A1000 in dry storage. I now have a four A2000s, two A1000s, two A500s, two A1200s, one A600 and a CDTV.
I can honestly say that Jay Miner and his dream which became the Amiga, really changed my life. I have met many good friends and interesting people whom I probably would not otherwise have never met. I have learned things that I would not have learned. I'm sure that the knowledge I gained through the use of the Amiga gave me an edge in the job market. Now I can even pay some nostalgic games with my son (unfortunately he still doesn't recognize the superiority of the Amiga over the XBox. Perhaps with time.)
As for what the future holds...
It pains me to see the the sad dealings of A. Inc and all of the other posers. It further pains me to see the suffering that this has brought to the few, faithful, supportive Amigans left. I just want to let the loosers know that they can never take away all of my fond Amiga memories.
I also want to say thanks to the Jay's Carl's and Dave's of the world who have given so much in return for so little. It is extremely good to see that people like Jens, Oliver, Jerri and Dennis still pressing forward and turning their visions into reality like their predecessors.
Thank you!
AmigaEd
BTW... Gary B. if you every read this. Thanks for the boing! Demo!
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@ Amiga Ed...and all...WOW..very nice..
Rich
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dang, some of this is getting religious
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What Amiga means to me:
Old things that cost way too much money.
Software that generally isn't compatible across models.
Expensive upgrades which make the machine even more incompatible with other models and even base models of itself.
Fun times with the a1k.
New things which will never be for sale.
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koaftder wrote:
dang, some of this is getting religious
Thats not a bad..thing ..it is what it is.....
Keep postin..people..
Rich
ny
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To me, the Amiga is the best teacher I've ever had. Words cannot explain how much I've learned from this beauty.
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skurk wrote:
To me, the Amiga is the best teacher I've ever had. Words cannot explain how much I've learned from this beauty.
Are you sure you're not talking about your woman? :lol:
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McVenco wrote:
Are you sure you're not talking about your woman? :lol:
Hehehummm no comment ;-)
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Amiga has still the best OS around, at least for my needs.
Varthall
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Something great created by the little people that got shat all over by big people.
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Amiga Machine Including Graphics Acceleration
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The Amiga, to me, is the most personal of personal computers. Everyone has their Amiga just the way they want it - and I don't just mean the Workbench backdrop. Hard drive partitions, drawers, directories, start-up sequences and menus are configured just the way you want them. It's a reflection of your own personality. I doubt there are any two Amiga sytems that are the same, unless they are "straight out of the box".
That's what I love - making an Amiga a part of you... and when it comes to playing around or doing some serious work, it's like pulling a chair up with an old buddy and just enjoying yourself!
Prob sounds a bit weird, but there you go! :-)
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For me, it's more a collection of memories rather than a tangible set of reasons on why the Amiga was better than the competition.
Playing with an Action Replay on my A500 and learning about the guts of Amiga hardware. The game cheating and mod ripping was also fun. :-)
Getting "baggies" of the latest demos out of Europe complete with a hand-written letter from friends overseas.
Rushing to the newsagent to get the latest Amiga Format magazine complete with a free(!) coverdisk and later A.C.A.R. (Australian Commodore and Amiga Review). I still have 5 or 6 boxes of these things.
Being blown away when I saw the Odyssey demo by Alcatraz, something I still enjoy watching on my XBox.
Being totally blown away when I saw Spaceballs/State Of The Art.
Running SysInfo the day my spanking new 4000 arrived. Eric Schwartz animations. Nico Francois and the prolific amount of tools he wrote. Seeing the true power of DOpus. Many things.
I think alot of the good memories and experiences we have stem largely from the fact that computers back then were alot simpler and alot more fun because there was nothing to worry about except for the occasional bootblock virus. If only that were still the case.
*philosophical, wistful mode off but reserved for later use*
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huronking wrote:
The Amiga to me is the decision I made to buy one in 1989
after making a chart with the strengths and weaknesses of the Amiga, PC, and Mac.
What he said. That's why my first home 'puter was an Amiga.
Fester
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Amiga...
Some odd looking keyboard ...(A1200)... that I was given a few years ago ...(Perhaps '05)... , before finding out that it was a lot more than just a source of 25-pin D connectors ;-)
Even being brought up with PC's (I’m 17), I agree that Amigas, or more accurately the OS, is by far the most slickest and efficient OS that I have ever seen (Although it does miss the home comforts such as built in networking, decent image editor/music player built in, etc ... Mind you the ticker tape on the calc is quite nice...)
Amiga strikes me as something that I missed out on without ever knowing it existed.
Hodgkinson.
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@ Hodgkinson..
Very interesting post ..and wll put :-)
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Hodgkinson wrote:
Amiga...
Some odd looking keyboard ...(A1200)... that I was given a few years ago ...(Perhaps '05)... , before finding out that it was a lot more than just a source of 25-pin D connectors ;-)
Even being brought up with PC's (I’m 17), I agree that Amigas, or more accurately the OS, is by far the most slickest and efficient OS that I have ever seen (Although it does miss the home comforts such as built in networking, decent image editor/music player built in, etc ... Mind you the ticker tape on the calc is quite nice...)
Amiga strikes me as something that I missed out on without ever knowing it existed.
Hodgkinson.
Out of curiosity, whats the chronological order of the machines you have moved from?
For me it was:
Vic 20-> c64-> Amiga 1000-> 386DX/25-> 133MHz Pentium-> 300MHz p2-> 1GHz athlon-> 2GHz Celeron-> 3Ghz p4
and thats from '85 to present. I'm curious because moving from the machines between the vic-20 and the 133MHz pentium was lots of fun and really exciting. THe programs I wrote would run way faster on each new machine, more colors, better resolutions, etc. BUt after the 300MHz p2, stuff just got evolutional progress and hasn't been all that exciting since.
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BUt after the 300MHz p2, stuff just got evolutional progress and hasn't been all that exciting since.
SING IT, BROTHER!
At work I've been very bored since 1995!
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Amiga was a family, out to create an awesome machine, and they succeeded! I dunno about you, but reading the last days of the great C= and seeing video brings a tear to my eye. It was too advanced for most people I think...it is still running, has a following and is built to mil spec ;) not many machines out there can claim that, and if there is, how many of those are there? what should the new Amiga be? did I go from rambling to dreaming? She sure was awesome...........
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koaftder wrote:
Out of curiosity, whats the chronological order of the machines you have moved from?
For me it was:
Vic 20-> c64-> Amiga 1000-> 386DX/25-> 133MHz Pentium-> 300MHz p2-> 1GHz athlon-> 2GHz Celeron-> 3Ghz p4
and thats from '85 to present. I'm curious because moving from the machines between the vic-20 and the 133MHz pentium was lots of fun and really exciting. THe programs I wrote would run way faster on each new machine, more colors, better resolutions, etc. BUt after the 300MHz p2, stuff just got evolutional progress and hasn't been all that exciting since.
Agree +1.
I guess thats where the nostalgia for the 80-90's comes from. The hardware was interesting, evolving, pushing technology. Sometimes there'd be a game or demo that would really push the hardware and force you to reassess your understanding of the machine's ability, (esp' true for C64 and A500 for me).
C64-> A500-> 386/sx-> AMDK6/350 & A1200/030-> Athlon2000-> Q6600.
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Well, to me the Amiga is pretty much my first job.
Back in the early 90's, there had been nothing but Commodore computers in my life and the Amiga was the less popular machine destined to hackers and more technically minded people.
Before the Amiga I had the VIC-20 and the C64 but these were mostly entertainment machines even if I learned a lot of stuff relating to programming, electronics, binary stuff and logic, etc...
The Amiga was different. I was paid to use it and do stuff with it. It is with this machine that I gave the best of myself.
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Wow, a nostalgia trip!
After being a C64 fan for many years I got my first Amiga in 1986 and it was an A1k. I had many fun hours playing Defender of the Crown (my first game) and, eventually, other Cinemaware games.
I had a friend who's aunt had an IBM clone and we used to play The Bards Tale on it all the time. The shock they had when I first showed it (the Amiga version of the Bard's Tale) to them on the Amiga. It looked and sounded so much better.
After picking up a second hand Amiga 500 in the early 90's the memories of early LucasArts adventures really come to mind. Loom, Monkey Island 1 and 2, Indy and the Fate of Atlantis. Also remember playing Populous a lot and Lemmings too. I had tons of games but those stick out the most. After a while games were coming out more for Wintel than they were for Amiga. It's a shame too.
Amiga to me was a superior machine with superior OS in a time when Mac was black and white and Microsoft was command prompt or early Windows. Other than the Atari ST Anything else was 8 bit. The Amiga was, in other words, better.
I miss those day. :-(
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Just to reply...
Taking into account both my and my Dads PC's...Approximate chronological order...
C= PET
Aquired a 4040 development kit at some point
C64 +4's (Atomic mission, blitz, etc)
200Mhz MMX (Dads first home PC)
233Mhz tower of my own
Dad and me got a DELL 400Mhz laptop each
Given a A1200 and TI99-4A at some point
233Mhz tower upgraded to 1Ghz tower...200Mhz MMX upgraded to a 1.8Ghz tower. Masses of other PC's given to us from 133Mhz to 1Ghz at various points.
Given a ZX Spectum +3, 2x ZX Specckys, a good A500, a faulty A500, another A1200, a A1200T (Now raided for parts to use in the original A1200...special reasons for this...), and a A1200 motherboard.
Btw, All the computers, execpt the PET and the 200Mhz MMX are second hand. The majority were given to us free of charge.
...So really the Amigas are the "new" computers in this house!
Hodgkinson.
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Atari 2600 (I claim because I had BASIC on it :)
Vic 20
C= 64
Amiga 1000
Amiga 500
Amiga 2000
still have :
Amiga 3000T
Windoze boxes
A1200
A4000
more Windoze boxes and laptops
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The Amiga is largely responsible for me developing a lot of computer skills. It was not just a business tool, but an enabler to do what ever it is I wanted to and with so little money compared to other systems.
Having successfully installed UAE on my MAC, I am ready to build it up to where my A3000 was... Amiga never dies...
If you think you are fooling yourself here, look at all the well designed sites dedicated to this platform compared to other platforms. Do you such a following for the Atari ST?
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eslapion wrote:
Well, to me the Amiga is pretty much my first job.
Back in the early 90's, there had been nothing but Commodore computers in my life and the Amiga was the less popular machine destined to hackers and more technically minded people.......
The Amiga was different. I was paid to use it and do stuff with it. It is with this machine that I gave the best of myself.
Who paid you to use an Amiga? I want to go back in time and get that job!
I could (and probably already have on several different occasions) write a few pages about how learning on and using the Amiga in the beginning has changed my life and given me opportunities that I probably would not have been given if not for what I learned on my A1000.
The Amiga was the greatest then, now it is still great fun and good memories.....................Ahhhhhhhh nostalgia.
It is still very useful in many ways and my tool of choice for things I enjoy doing, like Games, Non-linear video editing, games, learning more about programming, games, music creation and manipulation, games, CAD drawings and of course .........a few games! (just kidding, my Amiga use has shrunk to games and video editing these days) :-D
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amigadave wrote:
Who paid you to use an Amiga? I want to go back in time and get that job!
I was working in the advertising department of Dumoulin back in 1992 but prior to that I had worked for CompuArt as a DTP technician operating a CG9400 imagesetter.
I also worked in 1990 for a small religious organisation to publish their monthly paper.
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a retro hobby that takes my kind off work and STRESS for a little while ;-)
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AMIGA means to me:
Fun, involving computing.
Innovative hardware and software.
Easy to use, but powerful.
A people computer.
Everything that Amiga, Inc. don't stand for :(
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klx300r wrote:
a retro hobby that takes my kind off work and STRESS for a little while ;-)
Do you mean it takes your mind off work.....?
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Hi,
What the Amiga means to me even today!
Back when the Amiga first came out, my old Otrana (a Z80 CPM machine with MSDOS emulator) gave out, so I was looking for a new computer, I walked into my favorite computer store and they where displaying the Amiga 1000 for $999.95 (funny why don't they just say a $1000.00), the store manager told me, smerf since your my friend, the sale ends in 2 more days, but if you want, since you have bought so much computer stuff off of me, I'll keep the sale price for you until the end of the month, so I looked at MACS (yuck) IBM's (to much business and no sound and poor graphics but it did what I wanted DBase III, and Lotus 123, yes I programmed these for business) CoCo color computer from your favorite Radio Shack, (interesting) but not to many programs at the time, the Tandy Sensation (to expensive and required RS manipulated software) well in 2 weeks I went back to relook at the Amiga, my sales friend said, still looking, well guess what, the Amiga has MSDOS software in the Emulation mode, I have a demo copy that works all the way and I'll throw it in free if you buy one, well I looked and thought about if for another week, then I went back and bought this monstrosity from Commodore. The first two weeks I hated this darn machine, df0: df1: why not just use a: b: the darn command lines where to long, why not just say copy a: b:, this machine is ridiculous, but something kept saying in the back of my mind, this machine is doing some stuff that I never saw a computer do before, well the Amiga grew on me, as I learned more and bought more software and met more people that owned the machine I began to realize that the Amiga was more than a computer it was a community of people all struggling through the same things as me, we formed clubs, had meetings, discussed the new things we learned, had arguments (smerf likes those) showed new demos we found, traded fish programs and had fun. We had one person who wrote music, one who did graphics, and one who made demo disks and collected shareware and freeware disks (yours truly), so the Amiga means to me people having a good time forming a community and discussing the Amiga, we had people of different race, religion, nationality etc. We had arguments over computer platforms, software programming, religion, racisim, cars etc. my best friend was aethist, and my next best friend was (hang on to your hats) Muslim, and we all noticed that Only Amiga had these fanatical groups, IBM who heard of clubs or meetings like we had, Atari,forget it, as a matter of fact the only ones who even came close to the Amiga users where the CoCo users. So the Amiga means friends, community and people who had a genuine interest in the use of this Amazing machine.
Yes even I the greatest arguementive person in the world, the one who loves to troll to get people excited likes the Amiga Community, and still likes to hear what are people doing with this amazing little computer, maybe if we could all get together over this computer, we could all be friends world wide, and have friendly arguments instead of wars and killing.
smerf
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A computer to [compare with] all computers,
a device to create all art that can be created. A Machine to love and a way of thinking.
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Can only add a few of my earliest memories of the Amiga. I remember reading about the A1000 in High School (freshman, or sophmore), buying Commodore Magazine and AmigaWorld long before I could even dream of affording an Amiga.... about 2 years later, a friend (who's parents had way too much money apparently) after showing off his Atari 1040ST, showed me his brand new A500... He showed off DPaint (1) and Adventure Construction Set, I was simply amazed by the stereo music coming from the machine. Someone can maybe help my memory here, I bought the first A500 'bundle' that was released... I know it came with Tetris and Where in the World is Carmen Sandiego, not sure of the exact date. All I remember is taking my first tax refund check, cashing it, and handing it all to a clerk at B. Dalton's Software Etc. , and going home with a big box containing an A500.... (I started work at 17 y.o.)
My first 500, and a second one have since died.. but I have never turned back... Still have to use a Windoze machine for some websites, notably Employment sites that need Internet Exploiter... but I am glad to tell people that my Amiga is my 'real' computer, just my opinion... it's just what I am used to now....
It's just hard to change after you have been using a certain computer and OS for so long......
Besides, Windoze has the close gadget on the wrong side of the window...
:-D
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The Amiga was and still is my First love. :-o
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AMIGA means to me, nostalgia, different, special, more relaxing, nicer feel and fun.
Alert me if I missed anything. :-)
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Amiga
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That covers it for me
Shaz
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> What is the meaning of AMIGA..?
The machine that could have ruled the world but failed short.